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'Seasteads' Offer Libertarians Vision of Floating Cities of the Future


For (very) wealthy libertarians, seasteads – floating cities – might be the way forward, with their ambition of 'guaranteeing political freedom and enabling experimentation with alternative social systems'

by Paul Peachey | Thursday 26 December 2013 - The Independent

Available soon, for sale or rent: brand new island with sea views from the terrace, fresh fish daily and swimming pool in the resort hotel. An ideal base for 225 pioneers with £100m-plus to spare and a yearning for a new political and social system.

And if you don’t like it, no problem. Hitch the house to the back of a tug boat and try somewhere else.

For the right-wing American libertarian with deep-seated problems with Big Government, the 19th century challenge to “Go West, young man” retains a powerful appeal. But for the current target audience – the free-wheeling capitalist dotcom millionaire in Silicon Valley – going west means getting wet.

Not an issue, according to a new design report investigating the feasibility of “seasteads”, communities of like-minded, self-governing individuals established on the high seas, free from what its proponents see as the restrictions of nations, welfare systems and punitive taxes.

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The reason governments don't

The reason governments don't exercise control over the seas is because no one lives there who's productivity they could tax. It is not worth the effort for governments to define Sea Borders... the US gov has de facto control of most of the international waters because of its naval supremacy, but beyond that there's no political incentive to establish formal control of empty oceans.

If people began populating the oceans adjacent to states, the state has no physical or economic barriers to extending its control there. In fact any state could claim them. If some other state didn't defend their liberty, they would lose it. Either way they will be absorbed by a state to defend their integrity.

Whether anarchocap is feasible or not, moving it into the ocean makes no difference.

good points

We see the same thing being played out in BitCoin. When BitCoin was not that well known, and few people were using it, the State didn't spend the resources to go after it. Then, BitCoin started to receive lots of attention. Soon, the regulatory apparatus will wrap its tentacles around all the entry and exit points into the BitCoin market, and BitCoin will be assimilated.

Fighting the State by attempting to starve the State is not an effective strategy. I will write more on this later.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Where will they get their food?

I can see aquaculturing being done in the water, but what about the plants? You will need about an acre per person for long term sustainability. I don't see these things getting that big.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Aquaponics

Greenhouses.

Or they can fly it in.

You don't want to put one of these in the Atlantic Ocean

The first hurricane will take it out, the Pacific Ocean may be safer. I doubt these libertairan guys will humble themselves and partake in the subsidized federal flood insurance program! LOL

it's built to withstand storms

Do you notice how it is above the surface of the water? Most of the destructive energy of storms occurs at the interface of air and water (i.e., waves). This design protects against that.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Unrealistic

And I don't mean technologically. I mean politically. You can't escape the authority of the state by going to sea. If enough people start doing this, they'll figure out a way to control it. The world is too small to run, this isn't 1700. Gotta try to reform the states that exist.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

This is the wave of the future

No pun intended. These are people peacefully going gault and demonstrating freedom by example. the only thing that stinks is that they are still pleading with their masters to some extent. They are not entirely free it seeams.

'“It’s a business negotiation,” he told The Independent. The group was asking for “substantial political autonomy, within reason” and in return would supply the host with “some form of compensation”.'

Sounds like taxation to me.

Good start none-the-less.

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Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine