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Danger: Sprouts Farmers Markets Are Now Gun Free Kill Zones - Shop Elsewhere

The corporate board of directors of Sprouts Farmers Market has apparently decided to put all their customers at risk by designating all their stores as gunfree zones, adding them to the list of targets for madmen intent on taking their rage out on defensless mothers and children (and a few men).

One would have to be blind to not see that there is a multi-faceted attack on our right to keep and bear arms. While politicians work to regulate, ban, then confiscate our arms, there are other ploys being out into action by local governments to decrease the places where armed citizenry can frequent while carrying arms.

This is done by "encouraging" businesses, especially large corporations and major chain business corporations to provide a "safe" environment for their shoppers. If successful, we will all be in situations like Susan Gratia Hupp was (see video below) without the need for state laws.

http://youtu.be/n9xUCI3nJsQ

Why should we wait for the corporate strangle hold to get stronger?

Let's mount a massive campaign to let every Sprouts store in the country know that we in the patriot community who may well be the anchor for the market of healthy farm foods will not put up with this flagrant denial of our rights given the history of mass shootings in "gun free zones".

Please go to the following website:

http://sprouts.com/stores

and find the store(s) near you and go in person and protest this decision. Find an alternative source for farm foods and commit to not shopping at Sprouts until they reverse their decision and the signs come down!

They are headquartered in Scottdale, Arizona. Here is the number to the corporate office: 480-814-8016

You know what to do.

It would be good for some of you to organize people in your state to make a thorough boycott of this corporation. Make them feel a loss of FRN's they'll never forget.

It would be nice to make a list of things you normally buy and show it to the manager as you say, until the sign comes down and SProuts changes its policy, I/we will not be shopping here and here's how much business you will be losing.

Let's do this people!

For those interested, here's my story:

I have shopped at Sprouts for years, and I always carry (usually openly) my defense tools/arms. But a few weeks ago, I noticed a No Weapons Allowed sign on the front window of a different Sprouts store than where I normally shop.

I asked to speak to the manager and informed him that I would no longer shop at Sprouts if they discriminated against people like me who like to be responsible for our own safety rather than relying on police who always show up too late.

He said he believed it was the policy corporate-wide. I informed it the store I normally shop at did not have the sign. He gave me the Sprouts corporate office phone number, and said I would need to speak with them.

I called the next day and spoke to the receptionists. She was very sympathetic, and indicated that she was in agreement with all the points I had made supporting the right of people to carry arms in public places like stores, even though they are privately owned.

She said she would get back to me after getting the official scoop from her bosses. I never heard from her again.

Two weeks later, my wife wanted to go to the Sprouts store where we normally shop. I said no at first, then because I hadn't heard back, I thought, why not, after all it would provide another opportunity to spread the word and confirm whether it this store still had no gun ban sign.

Alas, when we walked up to it, there it was - a brand new sign. I was angry.
I put my gun in my car (after moving it so no one would notice I had a gun and now didn't and break into my car and steal my gun while we were in the store), and went in. After getting the supplies we needed and checking out, I said to the cashier, "We are very sad. This is our last time to shop here." She said, "Oh really, why? Are you all moving?" I said, "No. We just can't support a store that leaves us vulnerable to a cruel, senseless death." "What do you mean?" she asked. I explained to her that because guns are not allowed in Sprouts stores anymore, they have become a potential target for crazy, madmen who want to take their anger out on the world and we will not shop where we are not allowed to protect ourselves from such random violence. She said she understood and was not aware of that decision. I suggested that she look for a safer environment to work, where people like me were welcome and madmen wouldn't likely consider as a target for their rage.

I then went to the other store, where I normally do not shop and told the manager that they for sure had lost my business.

Now I write this, hoping the DP community will rise to the occasion and make this go viral.

Any other ideas that would lead to causing Sprouts more financial loss until they change their policy would be appreciated, or for that matter any ideas that would get them to change their mind without financial loss. That would be preferred as I would like an otherwise good store to be successful.

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Do you remember when the old

Do you remember when the old Smitty's stores were around and had gun checks at the entrances?

No. I missed that.

Must have been during the era when I had moved out of state.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

It may have been before your

It may have been before your time.

Great!

Thanks, I forgot about Trader Joe's. There is one a little further away, but well worth the trouble to teach Sprouts a lesson.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I understand your desire to

I understand your desire to feel welcome everywhere, but that will never be the case. Seems to me if a store sells things you like you could adapt to their rules in exchange for 20 minutes of shopping.

If you respect private property (and I think you do) the burden is not that dear.

Also, if you're still irritated, why not ask their manager what they tell armed police when they shop at the store.

It's not just desire, it's individual rights and persuasion

You're right, I do respect private property, but I also do not like being discriminated against just because I belief in self-protection instead of being a crime victim.

uastudy made some good points earlier that I believe are worth consideration.

Regarding your last point, you know that government always exempts itself and its law enforcement personnel from the regulations they put on the public.

BTW, I did not downvote you.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I up voted your comment

I up voted your comment because I agree with most of what you've said. Ultimately, the greatest power you have as a consumer is the ability to shop elsewhere.

Interesting story here for any folks wondering what frontier life was like in America:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1102438/posts

Thanks for the link, Velveeta!

Good article!

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

You're welcome.

You can always not see the sign

and carry concealed. Everybody wins, nobody loses. No sense being a victim while trying to properly nourish yourself!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

That is how you lose you CC permit

That is how you lose you CC permit and end up in jail. Not to mention potentially losing all of your fire arms and the ability to buy more.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Not what I was told by one of my instructors, a former cop

First, the store would have to call the cops then press charges. If they never see your gun, why would they get called? And if you don't see the sign.....

Your signature line contradicts your statement here

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Why do you CC?

Why do you CC?
To use it if you need it.
If you use it because you need to then they know you have it.
The loud boom is kind of a give away. If not then the bad guy on the floor with the spontaneous gaping red hole surely is.
Why bother to CC if your not going to use it when the need arises?

As a CC holder if the sign is displayed appropriately it is YOUR responsibility to see it and comply.

My sig never contradicts my opinions. Perhaps you do not understand one or the other?

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

If the loud boom is justified then the sign will be a moot point

and people will thank you and the police will not charge you.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I would rather be judged by twelve then carried by 8.

I would rather be judged by twelve then carried by 8, but you are wrong.

In many states/counties you will be charged especially komiefornia.
I would not consider 100K in legal fees mute :/
Less important than your life but hardly mute.

I chose the third option. The offensive business gets my money no more. My money is my vote.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Have you ever had a jury trial?

I have. Good luck, especially if you live in commiefornia.

If someone bursts into a store with a gun and is robbing/shooting up the place, I don't think you're going to trial for ending it.

Voting with your feet is important, this I agree with.

As a Freeman I elect to live free, not die on my knees.

P.S. It's Moot, not Mute!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Question

If you go into their market carrying and get caught what happens? Do you get thrown in jail for breaking company policy or just kicked out of their establishment?

In other words will you face criminal charges for breaking some arbitrary rule of some corporation? Is this country screwed up or what?

yes

Yes and allot more.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Itabee

on your 'permanent record'

8D~

Mall of America Starbucks customer robbed and brutally beaten

After
http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/andrew-beating-pic-graphic.jpg
Before
http://cdn1.bringmethenews.com/wp-content/uploads/Mark-Andrew-Facebook-photo.jpeg
One of three perps
http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/letajia-shapree-cutler-cain.jpg?w=620&h=349&crop=1
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – The runner-up in the Minneapolis mayoral election is recovering after being robbed and brutally beaten Thursday night at the Mall of America.

Mark Andrew, 63, was at a Starbucks inside the mall at around 7 p.m. Thursday when a man grabbed his phone off his table and ran off.

When Andrew went after him, he was tackled by two teenage girls – aged 18 and 17 — one of which began beating him with a billy club. During the attack, they told Andrew, “We’re going to kill you,” police say.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/12/27/police-mark-andrew-...

Millions of members from GOA & NRA

GOA
http://gunowners.org/
NRA
http://membership.nrahq.org/default.asp

Publicity seems to come easy for these two organizations. They should be inclined to bring attention to;
"Danger: Sprouts Farmers Markets Are Now Gun Free Kill Zones - Shop Elsewhere"

Boom!

Thanks, Barracuda!

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I'm having this go round

with police officers here. The understanding to law enforcement is businesses are private property and businesses can make their own rules. While I agree a business can require you to wear a shirt and shoes, they cannot violate the laws in the state in which they operate, or federal law. They are open to the public.

Like guns, there's an issue with service dogs. The police think they can cite a person for trespass if they bring a service dog into a business and that person is asked to remove the dog from the property. No, they can't cite an owner of a service dog for trespass, just ask Walmart. Walmart settled a lawsuit brought by the Department of Justice under the Americans with Disabilities Act in January, 2009. Walmart paid a fine, and must have a sign in their window, stating "Service dogs are welcome here. Any problems call 1-800..." They are required to display the sign in every store and set up the 800 number under the settlement. While I take umbrage with the wording of the sign, it makes it sound as though Walmart is merely being a good corporate citizen when they reached a settlement with the Department of Justice, a better sign would state, "Under the Americans with Disabilities Act, service dogs are welcome here."

I don't see guns as being different. I live in an open carry state. If a business, open to the public, has me arrested for trespass for open carrying a gun inside their store, they've violated state law, and the second amendment to the United States Constitution. Private property is your home and your land, it is not open to the public. The owner of the private property makes the rules. Businesses open to the public are not private property. Businesses open to the public don't get to violate the laws of the state in which they operate and, in the case of guns, the United States Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Businesses in my state should be required to display a sign that reads, "Under State law and the 2nd amendment to the United States Constitution, open carry is welcome here. Any problems call 1-800..."

Thanks for the good input

I just had a similar conversaton with an off-duty officer working security in an auto parts store. The officer said they just arrested someone recently who was carrying in spite of the gun ban sign.

Wish I knew the guy, I'd send him this info.'
What we need is several people to challenge this at once, not loners who always seem to get steamrolled in these corrupt, de facto monkey (key to the money) courts.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I believe

this is the attitude of police officers. "I'll arrest anyone open carrying and let the courts figure it out."

Alabama passed a law recently wherein anyone open carrying in the state cannot be arrested for disorderly conduct. Go, Alabama.

Sad, but true...

"I'll arrest anyone open carrying and let the courts figure it out."

I've heard that way too often. That is evidence of the erosion of the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" premise of our once fairly just judicial system.

Re: Alabama, I assume you meant "anyone JUST open carrying"; otherwise you can open carry and act disorderly without consequence.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

There are two cases,

one in Washington State and one in Colorado Springs, where individuals took their case to court. Both men challenged their open carry arrests. One man was awarded $15,000, the other $23,500.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNa_lpLAb9U

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/cops-disarmed-arrested-man...

Is there a difference?

"Businesses open to the public are not private property"

If this is the case, then wouldn't Dr. Paul's argument that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 violated business owner's property rights by forcing businesses to serve customers of a different race, be null/void? If a business owner wanted an "All-white" business, wouldn't he be allowed to do so under the property rights of his business? Didn't the CRAo1964 violate property rights of business owners who wanted segregated business? Shouldn't it be up to the free market to reward/punish business?

Please understand I'm not picking AT you. I'm generally interested in your comment above, and would like an elaboration on your argument by extending it beyond service dogs and guns.

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As Liberty lovers we can support

private property ownership, but we can also use the power of words and the purse to persuade someon to change their mind about what and who they allow on their property.

Let's vote with our feet and dollars.

There's no good reason that I can see for a store to have that policy when the majority of stores do not.

BTW, I quit going to Sears years ago for the same reason. But they changed their policy and took down their gun ban signs.

Now I shop at Sears! Way to go Sears!

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I believe

it is imperative we first define the term "private property."

Voting with your feet and your FRN's is a great idea. Good for Sears.

My daughter has a registered service dog in the State of California. When she visited me in Alabama, we took me, her and the service dog to Walmart. In the State of Alabama, service dogs don't have to be registered. My daughter's dog wears a gold colored medallion around her neck, with "Registered Service Dog" on the front and the license number on the back. The employees of Walmart gave her such a hard time, harassed her while we were shopping, that I'd had enough and emailed Walmart corporate in Bentonville, AR. I was somewhat familiar with the ADA. I'm thinking I'd probably never hear from them. A few hours later, I received an email from Walmart corporate apologizing for the inconvenience, and of course, service dogs are welcome at Walmart.

I started thinking to myself, "when does a multi-national corporation get back to little old me within the same year, let alone the same day, within hours?" Maybe there's something more to this? I did a little research and that's when I found the settlement document between Walmart and the Department of Justice. In other words, if Walmart or Target or any business open to the public has to follow federal law where service dogs are concerned, what makes people think a business such as Walmart or Target or any other business doesn't have to follow state and federal law where guns are concerned?