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Snowden's Legal Advisor On Meet the Press: "He kept his oath to follow the Constitution"

Edward Snowden's U.S. legal advisor Ben Wizner was interviewed today (12/29) on Meet the Press.

In the 1st clip below, David Gregory (no friend of liberty) states that Snowden "took an oath to not disclose classified information" to which Wizner retorted, "That's not right. He took an oath to follow the Constitution."

Ben Wizner is an excellent advisor for Snowden to have acquired.

There is other good content in these video clips.

Here is the clip with the main quotes from my post:

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What Oath?

I thought he couldn't be tried for treason BECAUSE he took NO Constitutional Oath as a Private Contractor?

Can someone clarify this? Do private employees take oaths?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Is the NSA private? Or is it a branch of the intelligence wing

of the government.

I was taking Wizner's word that Snowden had sworn an oath to the Constitution.

If he said it on Meet the Press then I think it happened.

That would be a different story and the whole thing may be moot.

I think Snowden did take the oath and felt what he was doing was against the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and therefor chose to become a sacrificial lamb to expose it.

Who would want to be in Snowden's shoes right now??? Not me!

But then again I would never take any anti-American citizen job like that with the federal government in the first place. IRS agents are another example.

But a few of them have had the guts to quit and speak out (Sherry Peel Jackson for instance).

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

He DIDN'T work for the NSA... not directly anyway.

He worked for the National Security Agency through subcontractor Booz Allen in the NSA's Oahu office.

I believe he did work for the CIA prior to being a contractor for the NSA. Do CIA agents take the Oath to the Constitution as well?

Whether he's keeping to THAT oath (CIA) or just an oath in spirit of defending his country, I respect him either way.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

New information from Jacob Applebaum. This is worrying.

From Glenn's twitter

Since YouTube embed won't work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA

Like the amnesty David

Like the amnesty David Gregory received for bringing an illegal 'high capacity' rifle magazine on Meet the Press.

Barracchio gets AMNESTY

Barracchio gets AMNESTY EVERYDAY!
Violates the Constitution
Lies to the American Public
Lies to foreign allies
Manipulates the laws to accommodate his criminal cronies
etc.
etc,
etc,
EVERYDAY!

Snowden not returning to the US

is likely because he already has evidence in his possession of what the NSA's goons have done to others inside that they are spying on, blackmailing, and or murdering to keep quiet. He already said he does not want to reveal details about individuals but intends only to push this info on NSA programs into the public debate.

Imagine all the dirty sh*t he likely has his hands on. Murder, blackmail, torture etc. against political enemies and others who may have tried to leak info and were killed before they ever made it out. I am sure he has more than enough legitimate reasons in his info alone not to come back to be put into the absolute corrupt and criminal US court system. Who the hell can trust the psychotic terrorists calling themselves 'government'? They are levying war on pretty much everyone, everywhere at this point.

Snowden seems to believe in the US Constitution but the "courts" clearly do not. Who the hell in the right mind would ever come back to this hell hole of injustice, corruption? Does anyone believe the criminals calling themselves "government" are upholding the law?

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Snowden doesn't have

Snowden doesn't have anything. He gave everything to the reporters and a few access to the files in case of an emergency (for protection).

Surely the NSA guy on 60 Minutes knew Snowden has no control over which files are being released. He's said he has no copies.

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And you don't think

Russia is a hell hole of injustice and corruption, and that criminals aren't running the government there?
Most of your post is speculation, and the released information is vetted before it goes public.
If the NSA is as far reaching as suspected, ES is not safe anywhere on the planet.

He is not in jail in Russia

Where do you think he would be if he were here?

Russia is probably a hell hole also, but at least he is not in jail or dead. He is also smart enough to stay in the public spotlight and smart enough to have enough info that has been withheld and distributed to trusted parties with agreements for data dumps on an if killed basis which is surely helping keep him alive.

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No one really knows

Let me ask you why it matters who the person is or name of the person?

Does anyone really care it was Snowden who said it? Not ultimately.

What matters is the information now exposed. Focus on that information. It documents why they need to reign the entire thing in and pass the Freedom Act.
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After reading this article you tell me. I would say our next biggest push must be reigning in the NSA and cut the agenda.

Will Snowden make the history books?

Obviously I truly hope so, but I am skeptical. I can see the whole NSA spying thing quickly becoming the "new norm" (as if it hasn't already).

I wonder how it came to be that McCarthyism is so well remembered and notorious in our history. Maybe we can learn from that in how to get the NSA in the books.

History is written by the victors

The Left hype McCarthyism because they were its targets. Out of those 1950's battles over free speech rose just another form of tyranny. Right ring censorship was replaced by the Left wing censorship that freely-speaking Americans (e.g., Phil Robertson) face today. Of course, we at the DP know that both parties are statist, so if statist censorship prevails long enough then Snowden will not make the history books.

However, I am optimistic that mass, establishment media will continue to lose market share to niche, free-access media, and Snowden's heroism will live on in many folks' own version of history. There may not be 'official' versions of history again for a long time!

"Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan, 1981 Inaugural Address

David Gregory just got his ass served, BOOM!

Crumble NBC, crumble!!.............hahahahahahahahahahaha

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Lools like that first downvote...

...has been wiped out many times over.

I knew the DP reinforcements would arrive!

I'll say it very clearly:
Edward Snowden is a hero who gave up his good life to uphold his oath - UN-like those rats who also took an oath to follow the Constitution, but do not such as:

Lyndsey Graham,
John McCain,
Peter King,
Patty Murray,
Nancy Pelosi,
John Boehner,
Adam Smith,
Barrack Obama,
Joe Biden,
John Kerry,
Elizabeth Warren,
etc...along with most of the rest of congress

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I wiped out that downvote :)

Also wanted to comment on your "UN-like those rats" -- yes, they are very like the UN! :)

Got a new laptop for Christmas, must saw the snow effect is a lot nicer with more cores.

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Hope you didn't get that laptop online. Did you see that...

...recent story here on the DailyPaul of what the NSA is doing with laptops purchased online?

If not, just scroll down a few pages until you find it.

Chilling.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
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Yep, days after the order :(

But I know nothing I say anywhere is private any more. My cell phone is spying on me more than this laptop will, because I'm only in the laptop's presence part of the day. Happy New Year!!! :)

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There are many PAID trolls on here that will do anything

to stifle the momentum of a message that inspires. Onward for Liberty!!

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good lawyer

never thought i'd say that

bump!

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There are a lot of great lawyers.

It really depends who they represent, what they support & fight for, etc.

…or who pays

them, which Foundations they represent,, which University they went to, which lodges and secret societies they belong to, which law firm they work for, the type of client that firm represents, and who they socially and politically rub shoulders with.
There is way more to law than just law.

the problem

is they often don't fight for anything.

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Thanks for posting pawnstorm!

Bump!

In my opinion, this should have an Up vote from all users

Minus Grangspam & Jillying Booth.

So, we see things differently?

I just don't embrace the whole Snowden/Greenwald thing, nor their legal advisors, because they all tie in with some seriously questionable people and companies.
Sheeple is a word used often on this site, and I am comfortable with not being a Snowden/Greenwald sheeple. I can think independently, and am confident enough to swim against the popular tide.
Do you have a problem with that, on this site dedicated to personal liberty?

I love this!

5 down votes, and only one reply from ronpaulwins. Is he the down voters spokesman?. Why has he nothing to say to address the real issues?
So you think that ES's lawyer, a KGB man is good? OK, 3 cheers for the KGB, lovers of liberty and individual freedoms. Lets HEAR you!!! Ra Ra Ra Ra.
How about a round of cheers for George Soros, he who meddles in the affairs of sovereign nations, and can collapse economies at will…because it suits him to do so. He who supports and funds GG….let the down voters cheer for him too. Yeah…Ra Ra Ra. Go George Soros,lover of liberty and communist to the core. Hip hip hurrah!
There seems to be many people who don't want anyone to question anything GG and ES have to say.
I wonder why???

Better read a little closer Jill - I never said his lawyer in...

...Russia, I said his LEGAL ADVISOR in the USA. Not sure why you brought the KGB into it.

My point was that Snowden simply upheld the oath he took to follow the U.S. Constitution.

Specifically the 4th Amendment, in which we are NOT to be searched willy-nilly without probable cause. And even then you need a warrant.

Here is the actual text of the law which the NSA is violating:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The Constitution is the LAW and the NSA collects every call made to and from every American.

Whether you agree with it or not, they're breaking the LAW.

Then they LIE and say "Oh, we're not listening to every call." But that's beside the point.

I wonder, which laws should we allow our government to break with no consequence?

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I understood what you said.

and I realise ES has Ben Wizner as his legal advisor in the states, (who is paying for all the legal services?)
but I was referring to the fact that ES's Russian lawyer is KGB, and KGB is not good…ever.
Just for arguments sake, ES, no matter how you look at it, stole from his employer. he too broke the law.
And what have the consequences been? Face book is alive and well, people are still queuing for the latest smart technology ,the NSA is still collecting and storing data on US citizens, and everything is still business as usual. The only thing that the NSA revelations has done, has been to harm the USA's diplomatic relationships with other countries, and that is all bad, bad for the US and her citizens.
ES, when he worked for both the CIA and NSA most very likely had contractual "oaths" that he made to his employers, and he broke those by stealing from them.
You can't have it both ways, theft is theft
Ben Wizner seems to use Democracy Now as his platform, and as we know, Democracy now, is very left wing, progressive.
Why does everything surrounding ES and GG point to the Left? And that is the piece of the puzzle that worries me.

Yeah, we definitely see differently.

I named you because of all DailyPaul members I could think of, the only seriously anti-Glenn & Ed commentary I could think of, or majority, has been from Grangspam & yourself.