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911 to Lady Reporting Man for Open Carry: “It’s Not Illegal to Open Carry.” Cops Arrest Him Anyway - 911 tape released

The 911 call which led to the arrest of a Michigan man who was exercising his right to open carry is a perfect example of how the American people have been conditioned to fear guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

Last March, a Grand Rapids officer confronted 28-year-old Johann Deffert as he walked down Michigan Street with a pistol strapped to his leg. The officer forced Deffert to the ground at gunpoint, handcuffed him, then secured his pistol as he ran his name through the database.

To the officer’s dismay, Deffert’s record came up clean. As a result, Deffert filed a federal lawsuit against Grand Rapids Police claiming they “violated his constitutional rights, assaulted him and falsely imprisoned him,” according to Michigan Live.

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The 911 recording is in the article.




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Why O why

Didn't this guy sue the cop and press charges?

feel bad for the local

....residents.

They will have to pay the bill. Even with insurance, the premiums are boud to go up.

Hopefully, they will take it out of the police budget imo.

donvino

Maybe they should do away with the rule........

Maybe they should do away with the rule that compels them to "investigate" every time some paranoid whack-job with 911 on speed dial calls about nothing. Nosy "Gladys Kravitz" type neighbors are a fact of life. Trouble comes when cops use this as an excuse to harass and terrorize law-abiding citizens. The dispatcher knew better but apparently, if Gladys keeps squawking enough, eventually a blue meany will show up.

I'm trying to decide...

How much would I award this citizen for what the government did to him?
Probably not more than $1 Billion. Not sure.
It really is time these governments start paying an amount which actually gets their attention.

Very interesting that you said...

Very interesting that you said "I would award this citizen..." would you be taking that amount out of your pocket? Or would you be taking that money out of the pockets of the taxpayers? Most people don't understand that the government does not have or make any money. Any money that they spend is money that comes out of the taxpayers pocket.
The government has no motivation to reduce lawsuits because they are spending other peoples money that comes from an infinite supply called taxes.

RickStone

If a persons taxes are being

If a persons taxes are being spent on lawsuits then they better kick out the offenders and start electing people to office who follow the constitution

I meant precisely what I said.

The citizens who are supposed to be controlling their government should have to pay for becoming lazy/indifferent and allowing the government so much power and latitude for abuse.

You still did not ...

You still did not answer the question, here it is again.

Very interesting that you said "I would award this citizen..." would you be taking that amount out of your pocket? Or would you be taking that money out of the pockets of the taxpayers?

You gave a typical non answer just like a politician, is this practice for when you run for office?

RickStone

Seriously?

Are you joking or something....?
I'm talking about a lawsuit in a court of law.
I'd guess about 99.9% of those reading my post understood that.
Is there anything else you would like clarified?

I get it...

I get it, you are doing your Nancy Pelosi impersonation instead of directly answering my question.
I'd guess about 99.9% of those reading my post understood that. You are very transparent.

RickStone

Make it much less

The dispatcher and officer should have to pay an award of say $50,000.00 each and that would send a clear message. It would make officers and dispatchers think twice before violating a lawful citizens Constitutional Rights if they thought they may lose a year or more pay. I do not believe that this type of award would be allowed to be discharged in bankruptcy as they do have a fudiciary responsibility to protect lawful citizens for equal protection under the law. My opinion.

Just another lawsuit...

Just another lawsuit that the taxpayers have to pay for because the police do not know the law. It would be much cheaper to properly train them than to pay for lawsuits. But that is probably asking too much.

RickStone

In the long run the cost of the suit

Will add fuel to the fire that will lead to the collapse of this illegitimate government.

Yes. It's a b-i-t-c-h that tax payers get the bill but that's key in that the tax payers are the ONLY one's who can end this circus.

If it takes pissing them off with more debt, then that's what it takes.

“Give a man a gun, he can rob a bank. Give a man a central bank, and he can rob a country and the world.”
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I've been making that saaame argument for the past 5 years in

my little town where I have 3 lawsuits against them. Losing lawsuits is the only thing they understand!!!

People are finally coming around NOW THAT THEY SEE HOW IT HITS THEM IN THE WALLET

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

One thing that would...

One thing that would really cut down on the lawsuits is to make the police officers 50% personally responsible for the lawsuit payment.

RickStone

That would be a reasonable start, then make it 100%

In my town a federal judge just ruled the Chief of Police and Town Manager and Code Enforcement employee were personally responsible, NO IMMUNITY! YEEE HAAAW!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown