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GREAT Video on Snowden and Greenwald...

Enjoy: Mainstream Media's Vilification Of Edward Snowden And Glenn Greenwald, Courtesy Al Jazeera and Mox News.


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Michael Nystrom's picture

Bump - Thanks Brian for posting


The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

the same folks attacking

the same folks attacking snowden would be the same folks that would attack the rape victim instead of the rapists.

Ron Paul 2016

18:33, how 'bout no

we're done being "practical"

At the end Baker says it was

At the end Baker says it was personally embarrassing for Obama to have his personal secrecy (privacy) stripped away with the leaks. Is it not embarrassing for all Americans to have their privacy stripped away?

I have a family friend that for years was telling people everything you say on the phone is being recorded. Everyone used to think he was kooky, except for myself that was inclined to believe him. I thought he was right but that he was not important enough to be cared about by the ptb.

It is funny now that he was right, people don't address how they mocked him, they just go with the "if you have nothing to hide" approach.

Media envy is ugly

Cheney was clearly 'projecting' huh? A real traitor calling Snowden a traitor. Lol!
Die already Cheney. You murderous, lawless traitor.

The Risks of Trusting the Snowden Story



Last June, Glenn Greenwald at The Guardian revealed that Edward Snowden was the NSA insider behind “one of the most significant leaks in US political history.” Snowden explained his motivations through Greenwald by saying, “There are more important things than money…. harming people isn’t my goal. Transparency is.” Such altruistic motivations were welcome news at the time but have come into question recently given that only a tiny fraction of the documents have been released nearly a year after Snowden started working with Greenwald. Perhaps more importantly, billionaire Pierre Omidyar is funding Greenwald’s slow release of those documents and Omidyar’s Paypal colleagues have highly suspicious links to NSA spying and other dangers to civil rights.

It was originally reported that the number of documents Snowden had stolen was in the thousands. Today, however, that number is said to be nearly two million. This calls into question Snowden’s early statement, as reported by Greenwald, that he “carefully evaluated every single document… to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest.” The huge, new number also reveals that less than one tenth of one percent of the documents (only about 900) have actually been released to the public.

How could Snowden have “carefully evaluated every single” one of what is now being said to be nearly two million documents? He only worked for Booz Allen Hamilton for a few months. According to NSA Director Keith Alexander, Snowden also worked directly for NSA for twelve months prior to that, which is interesting. But still, that would require carefully evaluating thousands of documents a day during that entire time. Didn’t he have a job apart from that?

Journalist Margie Burns asked some good questions back in June that have not yet been answered. She wondered about the 29-year old Snowden who had been a U.S. Army Special Forces recruit, a covert CIA operative, and an NSA employee in various capacities, all in just a few, short years. Burns asked “How, exactly, did Snowden get his series of NSA jobs? Did he apply through regular channels? Was it through someone he knew? Who recommended him? Who were his references for a string of six-figure, high-level security jobs? Are there any safeguards in place so that red flags go up when a subcontractor jumps from job to job, especially in high-level clearance positions?”

Five months later, journalists Mark Ames and Yasha Levine investigated some of the businesses in which Greenwald’s benefactor Omidyar had invested. They found that the actual practices of those businesses were considerably less humanitarian than the outward appearance of Omidyar’s ventures often portray. The result was that Omidyar took down references to at least one of those businesses from his website.

sauron eyeIn December, whistleblower Sibel Edmonds broke the news that Omidyar‘s Paypal Corporation was implicated in the as-yet-unreleased NSA documents from Snowden. Moreover, Edmonds had been contacted by an NSA official who alleged that “a deal was made in early June, 2013 between the journalists involved in this recent NSA scandal and U.S. government officials, which was then sealed by secrecy and nondisclosure agreements by all parties involved.”

Omidyar, the son of Iranian exiles, certainly has had some highly suspicious business associates at Paypal. Here are a few of the most influential of Omidyar’s Paypal colleagues.

Max Levchin, a co-founder of Paypal, has openly stated his support for NSA spying on Americans.
Alex Karp used the Paypal framework to start Palantir, the most important company providing spying technology to the NSA. Palantir’s advisors include Condoleezza Rice and former CIA director George Tenet. The word Palantir refers to the seeing stones used primarily by the dark lord Sauron in The Lord of the Rings novels. From 2005 to 2008 the CIA was Palantir’s patron and only customer.
Peter Thiel has some interesting right-wing connections. Thiel started his career working for the CIA-linked law firm Sullivan & Cromwell and then Credit Suisse Group. In 2009, Thiel said, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,”

These facts about Omidyar’s Paypal colleagues should raise the level of skepticism about his new media venture with Greenwald and the slow release of the documents stolen by Snowden. It’s clear that Snowden’s whistleblowing has been co-opted by private corporate interests. Are those involved with privatization of the stolen documents also colluding with government agencies to frame and direct national discussions on domestic spying and other serious matters?

The possibilities are endless, it seems. Presenting documents at a measured rate could be a way to acclimate citizens to painful realities without stirring the public into a panic or a unified response that might actually threaten the status quo. And considering that the number of documents has somehow grown from only thousands to nearly two million, the few insiders could release practically anything, thereby controlling national dialogue on many topics.

We live in an age of information war. It does not serve the public interest well to ignore that fact at any time based on pre-conceived notions of what corporations, governments or journalists are capable of. Let’s hope that Greenwald, who has done some good work revealing government misconduct, will immediately release all of the stolen documents, speak to the claims of an alleged deal made with government officials, and admit the risks with regard to Omidyar and his Paypal colleagues.


If Snowden was for real he would have dumped all of his info everywhere.
He did not, just like Assange it comes trickling out.
I call BS. Yoichi Shimatsu wrote a very interesting article about it.
I usually never post but nobody is asking the right questions...

So what is the motive behind it?

If this is all a big gubmint scheme, what is the reason for it? That's what I want to know. No secret Greenwald has been about making money, but there has to be a real reason if it is a false flag claim.

Hey Ralph ...

... the hypothesis put forth by Sibel Edmonds is that the reason would be to induce fear in the public. What good is a tyrannical police state if the people don't know about it? By making it in-your-face, people must deal psychologically with it, and many will become fearful of it, making them less likely to speak out against police state goons and their unlawful actions.

The police state cannot come right out and say, "Guess what suckers? We're spying on you. Ha!" But they can have a "whistleblower" do it and then feign outrage at the revelation.

The psychos within the military-industrial-government complex (Eisenhower's original term) want control, and one of the keys to control is to induce fear.

Fear is one of the reasons for carrying out 9/11. Fear is one of the reasons for carrying out the false flag terrorism events conducted by FBI and CIA assets since then.

The Greenwald Pro's --

Greenwald says all the right things, and that in itself has value in waking people up.

The Greenwald Con's --

Greenwald associates himself with people who are on record as assisting the spy network, which he claims to be against.

Greenwald has been EXTREMELY slow in getting the documents to the public. Not just kind of slow, but REAL slow.

He talks a good game. No doubt about it. But talk is (relatively) cheap. Where is the action?

That is the basic case that some people are thinking about when they question if Greenwald/Snowden is a legit whistle-blowing thing or something else.

It puts more anger into the public than fear

I know more people who are pissed off about this and don't know of anyone afraid of it...unless they are cheating on their spouse. :)

Outstanding Journalism

Raising the bar. I got the sense Greenwald's example and avowed professional standards had a positive influence inspiring an extremely competent presentation of this story. It was clear, efficient, unfawning and unflinching.

As much as Baker turned my stomach,

he did say that those that leak classified info for political reasons should be prosecuted and that Obama wasn't telling the truth when he said that he welcomed an open debate on the NSA. So I guess Baker would not be opposed to criminal charges against the President and other politicians.

What a thug Stewart Baker is.

What a thug Stewart Baker is. There's evidently no limit to the level of police state that he will support. He would have been right at home in the Third Reich.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

robot999's picture

Looks to me

like he actually was in the "reich".

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

Yep, these people are

Yep, these people are traitors...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...