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The Patriot South American Investment Tour Part I! Exclusive VIP Earlybird Access.

Who said being a patriot and being prepared to run for our lives can't be fun?

Here's a sneak preview on The Patriot South American Investment Tour.

We're still finishing details: will we go for an aggressive 4 nation tour or a more relaxed 3 nation tour? Sectors of interest include:

  1. Real estate. A no-brainer on everybody's mind.
  2. Natural resources (minerals, timber) and the agricultural sector.
  3. Manufacturing and technology (plus supportive infrastructures).
  4. Emergent trends. Lots of good news there.

The locations/nations under consideration are presently limited to:

  1. Bogota, Colombia. We think Colombia might be "the next Brazil".
  2. Santiago, Chile. Already "happening" with plenty more room to happen in.
  3. Montevideo, Uruguay. Want to see a financial paradise in the making? Don't forget you heard that here first.
  4. Buenos Aires, Argentina. It's hard to describe the confluence of factors that could make Agentina happen in a big way.

The trip is preceded by briefings that help you understand each nation in its regional and global economic context. Briefings during the trip focus on the host nation. A follow up conference will insure that we have our contacts and follow-up actions firmly in hand. We're doing business and we intend to come away with real deals and proposals.

Don't expect to stay in international chain hotels. In each nation we'll be interfacing with the local community and meeting local investors. South America has a long and deeply rooted libertarian economic tradition and business minded people eager to meet people like us.

And the best part is only you guys can get in on it! So far anyways. This isn't open to the general public and it's not gonna be. There's a limited number of places available. And it's happening this summer.

PM me to follow up, ask questions and join our contact list. Other announcements will follow but this is your sneak preview with exclusive VIP access. Yep, you are already a VIP.

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Sorry, but I don't invest

Sorry, but I don't invest with anyone who doesn't know the possessive of "it" doesn't have an apostrophe.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

Perhaps you are misinformed.

I'm not soliciting investment. Out of curiosity, do you presently invest internationally?

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Got back from lunch with a buddy. Waffle House. He had many

of the same questions. Is it safe, do they have Coca Cola and he has "doubt anyone wants to be there". He asked about jobs, he said "those countries are all poor" and generally indicated he'd rather be dipped in manure.

See, we don't see the explosive growth happening. It still just looks like some little bananaberg on TV. But even if this weren't the case, and I just started saying it's irrelevant. I mean yes they have Coca Cola (they even got ice) but the rest of it irrelevant, irrelevant, irrelevant.

Number one, the only significant factor here is that WE ARE SINKING, WE ARE THE ONES IN THE GREATEST DEBT HERE AND THE NO MANUFACTURING BASE AND THE STRANGLING REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT. See, South America doesn't have to do anything to look better, it looks worse here all the time. And there's no brakes on this keynesian freight train to perdition. Down South they already got tired of trying that failed dirge. They are on the rebound not us. They are gaining in capability and if we aren't doing deals with them yet you should see the rest of Europe.

How about it Chilean expats. What are people driving there that they really aren't here? Hello Peugeot and Citroen! Guess what's NOT MADE IN CHINA? Hello Peugeot and Citroen!

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

North and South

The distance is huge between Columbia on the North and Chile on the South. I would suggest to do Uruguay, Columbia and Ecuador as one trip.
Chile and Argentina as a second trip maybe even adding Brazil. Maybe just in time for the Soccer world Cup final.

Not to mention Buenos Aires

but two nations is not enough. Maybe for following tours but there's some synchronicity at work here. Argentina has the infrastructure sitting and mineral resources easily equivalent with our own in the USA. It's just staggering what COULD happen there and that's where Uruguay comes into play.

See, free market models are working in South America! The models are established and the results are in. Chile, well we're looking at Chile as one of the models but we're talking investing here. We're trying to spot trends in EMERGENT FIELDS.

As to the World Cup...holy cats...Brazil and World Cup is surely a recipe for something but not business lols. I'm not sure I even want to imagine it. Really not sure I can.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Come on Smudge Pot!

You post an ad and you dare call this an DP Original.

Aside from the content, how is this any different from any other piece of spam that tries to show up here?

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Oh uh from your perspective?

I just realized nothing. Er.....(digs toe in dirt) ok nothing NOW I guess but it's imagined as a series and I was thinking the next one is a rundown on the security situation in these various nations and after that kind of an updated "security index" on these nations and to do that we're diving right into history with the pre-Colombian era.

It's endlessly fascinating to look at how these nations operate singularly, as neighbors, as a region and globally. And at one point these academic backgrounders turn into briefs and then the briefs will turn into live reports and then after the trip the reports turn into movement intel.

And I have another motive here. This trip sounds pricey and to the many of us just making it by it might as well cost a million. But mark me on this brother and the body here assembled, if I don't bring back something for "the rest of us" then I am not Smudge Pot.

And I am altogether sure I am still Smudge Pot. The classification matters not but they will amount to one heck of a nice pile of originals. I do hope and pray. Because I know in my bones that we need more options. Oyate yanipictelo! The People Shall Live!

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Ok, yeah, so, it sounds interesting

Much more interesting than it sounds when I feel like I'm getting sold something.

I mean - what is that website? Is it yours? Looks like some email harvesting scam - I mean, aside from the content. Well, yeah, including the content. Targeting a rather underprivileged, vulnerable group - those that have probably been screwed by, and therefore hate the government. These kids are easy marks.

I'm not against the idea of exploring other places, other lands, etc.

It just looked smarmy, that's all I'm saying. And if it weren't you, and some anonymous screenname that showed up yesterday, I would have just unpublished it.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Had me....lost me

Point taken on the "original" thing cause yeah, I didn't really see how commercial it sounded. The idea is big, phat, extra large and it's not just interesting, it's the future and I'm convinced of it, no way to put it in one post, this is gonna be a PROCESS.

But "Targeting a rather underprivileged, vulnerable group - those that have probably been screwed by, and therefore hate the government. These kids are easy marks"??? I'm just not seeing it. Responses so far indicate great interest by people who get whom we're addressing: investors. Not kids. Though I really don't mind the association with youth. Kinda like getting carded at a bar. Which never happens anymore.

I'll make a case for faith. Just wait. This is the first step on a very tall ELEVATOR.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

I would skip Colombia in lieu

I would skip Colombia in lieu of Ecuador in a heartbeat...also traveling as a pack of gringo investors is not really a smart way to seek out good deals or really experience local culture in my opinion. Learn and practice speaking practical Spanish will help immensely...

A great case can be made for Ecuador however

I see Ecuador as an expat scene and "investment" covers wider interests. Additionally, we have excellent contacts in Colombia who are Colombian and who are looking for real partners now. Opportunity doesn't follow the vacation travel guides.

As far as seeking out good deals in a pack, again, we're not shopping for handbags here. Think "business mixer" rather than "flea market".

And if anyone can master Spanish between now and summer, no doubt they will find it helpful.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Yeah, I aint shopping for

Yeah, I aint shopping for handbags at fleamarkets listed in a vacation travel guide either....idk what emerging field you are looking for in Colombia, but I really think thats a dead-end. Corrupt/FARC/Risky
edited to add: But to each their own and Deseo bueno suerte!

Kinda like my buddy at Waffle House

Corrupt/FARC/Risky = Colombia?
Corrupt/Police State/Risky = USA.

FARC for general info = Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia. They are kind of a holdover. See it used to be everybody had their own Marxist insurgency but now that Abimael Guzman went down in Peru, FARC is kinda playing solo fiddle. At this point, seaweed, I'm not sure anybody considers them to be a Marxist insurgency or just another narcotrafficante thing. I don't see them trending up but it's not because the world decided it doesn't like cocaine.

Right now I'm not seeing many dead ends at all in South America proper. Really depends what your interests are. Places I'm not even going to bother considering due to security reasons right now are Northern Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and to a much lesser extent Guatemala. I'm betting you know why.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Rather than concentrating on the capitals

I would consider checking out the regional cities and select rural areas.

In Chile, for example, the south - Concepcion, Villarica, Valdivia (my favorite),
Isla Chiloe region - much like N. California-Oregon.

You could cross over to Argentina from there to the Northern Patagonia part
of Argentina from there (Bariloche, El Bolson, etc.) - basically the route of
Che Guevara and his friend in "The Motorcylcle Diaries" in reverse.

From N. Patagonia you could either go direct to Buenos Aires and Montevideo
or go there by way of Cordoba, which is supposed to beautiful, also.

All in all, I'd consider doing two separate trips rather than try to cover too much
in one.

For example:

Trip A -
Costa Rica-Colombia-Ecuador

Trip B -
Chile-Argentina-Uruguay-Southern Brazil

Excellent suggestions!

Would love to hear more and in more detail. We're not holding back information, we want to share as much as possible. What do those areas have to see in terms of our potential investment groups?

My one input is...well not too many people realize how FREAKING LONG South America is and while the equatorial regions are pretty much the same, in Patagonia it's wintertime, the Patagonias are freaking cold and barren and we are adding on flight time.

What do you think is a good legth of time for this tour? I'm trying to keep it to 10 days. And the thing about Argentina to me is really about the currency situataion. I'll be writing more on this but one thing playing out right now is will Uruguay's policies lift them out of the situation where "Argentina catches cold and Praguay and Uruguay sneeze?"

Your experience is invaluable, I urge you to continue to add it! And we're still flexible. We can tweak this plan to suit evolving situations.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Then again,

Seeing this movie (based on an aged Butch Cassidy living
in Bolivia - I'd be tempted to work Bolivia in there somewhere,
too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackthorn_(film)

Bolivia...is like a class unto itself.

Bolivia would be pretty well off but somehow in the history, Chile ate it's waterfront. They are one of the few landlocked nations in la America del Sur. This would absolutely and totally SCREW them if not for brokered deals with Chile every hundred years or so. This gets them a railway down through Chile and a port. Where they keep a navy. Yup. They gotta be the only landlocked nation with a salt-water navy.

Like it's neighbors, Bolivia is blessed with minerals and some great agricultural capacity. It has the remnants of industry, textiles and light manufacturing. Unfortunately what they have most of in minerals is tin and tin hasn't seen any recent increases in demand. And anything they can grow someone else can grow better.

Incredibly to us perhaps, the Evo Morales administration, and this is one of those kinda wild socialist types like Chaves over in Venazuela, has done pretty well for their economy, it's grown something like 6.5% and still trends up. To that extent it fits the evolving pattern: things are headed up down South.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Ecuador

I would add Ecuador to that list to make it five.
Ecuador enjoys a reasonable level and growing overseas investment.
I lived there for almost two years and I loved every minute of it.
Unfortunately my wife of over 30 years did not want to relocate from Australia so I had to come back.
There are thousands people from around the world (the great majority of them from the USA) choose Ecuador to settle.
There are many good reasons for that.

The climate (one of the best in the world)
Cheap real-estate and living expenses
Friendly locals
Close to the US with daily flights
Easy to get residency
Property right protection (by the constitution) to foreigners
Very affordable and high quality health care
It is a beautiful country

People will say: “yes but it has a leftist government and what about the crime rate”
Well my question is which developed western country doesn’t have a socialist collectivist government. The thing is private enterprise is booming in Ecuador and for the most part the government leave you alone more so than in most developed countries I know.
As far the crime goes. In two year I did not have a single incident. That is not to say that there is no crime. As in any country there is all kinds of crime and as a westerner you do have to be street wise when traveling on public transport etc.
So is Ecuador the perfect country?
I don’t think there is such place but on balance it is a nice, relaxed and peaceful country to stay.

Absolutely up there for a next tour

Ecuador and Costa Rica are conspicuously not on this list and it's simply a matter of time. We're trying to keep to 10 days and we have an aggressive schedule as it is.

One thing to consider is a Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia trip. That would be a different sort of trip indeed eh?

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

the only ones

I would consider are Uruguay because I like their soccer team and Chile.

Those others sound too dangerous for me. I am not a Green Beret, otherwise I might of considered them ;)

donvino

My girlfriend...

...is from Argentina (Rosario ... 3rd largest city in Arg.)

If you stay away from the "shanty towns" you'll be as safe as you would in American or western European cities. They have the same type of crimes-against-tourists as Europe: pick-pockets and purse snatches. A little common sense will safe-guard you.

The fact that Argentina has a lot of immigrants from Germany, Ireland, Northern Italy and Croatia makes it hard for thieves to target foreigners ... people with fair hair/eyes are common.

Work for pay, pay for freedom
Fuck 'em all, we don't need 'em

BAM! Not a lot of people talk about that but Argentina is Europe

Most people think of "expat communities" as a new thing but German immigration started happening generations ago and a LOT of them came over. I think the Italian immigration thing had been happening pre-WWII but post-WWII saw another huge wave of people from lots of places per above.

Yes, some Nazis fled persecution to South America but way, way, way more Jews and others did too.

Now there's this other factor. Argentina isn't as belssed with soils and a year long growing cycle like it's Northern neighbors and the Spanish settlers that originally conquered it didn't see as much need to import slaves as they did with plantation model agriculture. In fact, they didn't see a great need for the natives they had so they exterminated more of them than other places. So Argentina is about as white a place as you might find. With the USA getting browner and browner, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in pictures.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Really? Does that mean you consider Uruguay and Chile "safe"?

I go into security a bit in a comment below but Chile and Uruguay (to a much lesser extent) share a tumultuous past. Chile is a real expat favorite these days but the Pinochet regime is not a fond memory for anybody but Kissinger.

On the other hand, expats and international travelers tend to have the "street smarts" and bop around all over South America with no problem and many good stories.

For this trip we'll be doing "secure travel" but not exactly bringing an army with us. We're patriots. A certain group security dynamic will be in place.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

First off you're on the TSA

First off you're on the TSA "no fly list"
Even if you manage to leave the country you're not getting back in.

I won't be doing business with you; you misspelled "Patiot'.

Cui Bono?

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lol nexus

The no-fly list is news to me. What do you know that I don't?

Qui bono? I dunno, what's your relationship to the TSA?

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

relocation cost vs. in place prep

So, this is only for rich people, right?

For the cost of relocating to another Continent and either purchasing/leasing long term land, one could set themselves up pretty well in say, the middle of the woods, Missouri, or the vast nowhere of Utah, or even the patriot-packed Idaho wonderland?

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

Not really. But yeah. Wait one question at a time ;)

So...the tour isn't cheap like hitchhiking with a pack on your back that's for sure. And "investment property" isn't the same as "refuge" or finding a little corner to escape the world in. But I'd love to talk about that just a bit.

There's tons of places where you can get a place to be for absolute rock bottom and yes, there is land in places like Missouri for as little as $300/acre.

Missouri is a wonderful, fertile place with abundant water and gorgeous forests no doubt. My heart loves that land but if you see the future in the USA the way I see it, Missouri might not be safe for people like us. But that's a balance. No guarantees anyplace will be safe.

As far as leasing land, if it's not a life-lease why even bother? And if you can afford that kind of retirement plan, why not take it where your buck goes farthest?

Finally, dirt-cheap is an option I'd like us to bring back. Because I know. Believe me I know, the rest of us need some options. I'm praying for this and I'm praying for Barracuda_trader and others because we're trying to make them happen. Your support and prayers will go a long way.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Sounds like a growth

Sounds like a growth industry... Good idea!

Growth migth be relative

That has to be the briefest Bill3 comment ever. Growth and South America, well it's in the tea leaves but much remains to be seen about the nature and character of this growth.

It's becoming a better and better place to grow industry but that's purely relative to what's happening here. Ditto the whole concept of "security". The worse it gets here, the better it looks down there.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

It's a novel and far sighted

It's a novel and far sighted business idea. Put it together properly and you will get customers and investors. Plenty of skills and expertise in this community, network it!