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Sen. Rand Paul Calls for ‘Reasonable Sentence’ for Edward Snowden


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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., a critic of the NSA who is bringing a class action lawsuit against its surveillance programs, said on “This Week” that he does not believe NSA leaker Edward Snowden should be given clemency, but that he should be offered a “fair trial with a reasonable sentence” to allow him to return to the U.S. to face charges.

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Sad, sad,sad. It sounds like Rand is using Snowden to get a dig

...in at Clapper (which Rand was correct about), but he threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Rand should never have implicated Snowden just to get at Clapper.

I know he's trying to appease the rotted republican party, but c'mon - STAY PRINCIPLED for God's sake.

RON WOULD NEVER HAVE SAID ANYTHING LIKE THIS!!!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Are you sure?

You can speak for Ron Paul?

First of all Ron Paul hasn't had to be put on the spot on the question like Rand Paul.

You realize you just said Ron Paul is for applying the rule of law selectively.

I've never heard him say such a thing.

He said no such thing

On one hand we have a man alerting the citizens about illegal activity on the part of a government agency.
On the other hand we have a government employee lying to the citizens AND their representatives about that illegal activity. In what universe is this comparable? As a matter of fact, Snowden's silence would have constituted misprision of a felony - a crime. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/4

Leges sine moribus vanae

I'm Sure....

The questioner mentions Rand's stance on Snowden, then asks Ron what he thinks of Snowden. Ron begins the response with, "Edward Snowden is a hero."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDqLKVU8cM

@ 1:37 mark

Reformed neocon

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"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

I've about had it with Rand.

I've about had it with Rand. I just can't handle his political correctness and wishy washy in the middle of the road politics.

Where is RON when we need him??

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Ron

Ron is standing with Rand 99% and saying there are people who try to drive wedges between him and Rand, and those people didn't get Ron in the first place. Go figure.

the man loves

his son and wants to support him as most fathers would, however, if Rand keeps this up, by 2016 Ron may have to reverse those percentages.

I don't agree

Because as Rand teaches the GOP and world, through MSM, and gains more acceptance in the public, and we take those seats he needs to achieve our mutual goals.. I'm betting Ron will shock and awe those who are claiming Ron Paul is their guy.. because Ron knows, those who are claiming him, didn't do what he asked, didn't do what he showed us by example.. he knows who is standing with the Paul family and who creates wedges. Wedges will not work for the Pauls.

ron paul

when asked what a person can do to spread liberty and the libertarian message said people should do whatever they want, whatever appeals to them, and in their own way. i can dig up the quote (again) if you like.

"shock & awe" ? did you really write that? sounds more like mad dog mccain language.

people can love ron and not care so much for rand without driving wedges. who even thinks like that? and presumes to speak for the paul family?

Ron Paul said

He agrees with Rand 99% and people who try to divide him and Rand are wedge drivers.

first, don't think

for one minute i've forgotten all the times you've bad mouthed and dissed ron paul (the real teacher).

& what are you talking about? it's pretty obvious rand is trying to distance himself from his dad. over the next couple of years you'll see more of that. his big fear is that the gop/establishment would see him as too much like his dad, and ruin his prez bid.

Well I forgot

so show me what you're talking about because I wouldn't be in the GOP if not for Ron Paul.

interesting & telling

that you responded to the first point, but not the one being discussed. ron paul has gone on record to say there is hardly any difference between the two parties.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/04/politico-rand-p...

Nader said it better in 1996

The duopoly is like coke and pepsi. Ron Paul remains a Republican (his Libertarian stint was all of 6 months so he could take the nomination from a Libertarian.. just like Barr and GJ...).

Nader never belonged to a major party. I didn't join a major party until 2011 FOR Ron Paul, I stayed in because I got the message, and he's right.. GOP lost it's way, and it's our job to help them.. of course they don't want us or our help.

I retract

my earlier comment. After reading RobHino's comments and a few other very-detailed comments, I have changed my mind.

I have no one to blame for the errors contained in my earlier comment than myself. It seems that almost every time I trust the 'meat of the thread' WITHOUT further verifying it, I end up with 'egg on my face'!!
I must be more responsible with my comments.

Thank you to those who actually further researched the assertions presented here...

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What a choice!

Let's see...Snowden can either live like a rock star in a nation that used to be communist, or return as a accused traitor to a nation that currently strives to be communist.

What do you mean "used to be Communist"?

It still is Communist, it has just morphed into something with an acceptable face, but the End Game is still the same.

by this logic

does the senator think daniel ellsberg should have been given a "reasonable" sentence as well?

Daniel Ellsberg was charged with theft

of Government property, but the prosecution screwed up so badly that it was thrown out.
Daniel Ellsberg went through due process.

Ellsberg

a huge supporter of Snowden said that in today's climate,and with this admin he surely would have done hard time.

i kinda agree

i agree with rand on clapper although on snowden i think he should be reprimanded in some way but not jail. if anything i would consider his time served for having to spend the winter in russia.

this is not a deal breaker for me and i (like ron paul) will still be supporting rand over hellary in 2016.

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yes

haul off clapper to the slammer. give mr. snowden a parade, a medal, a statue and send him to congress.

Rand Paul's betrayal was much worse

Snowden was a person doing wrong who tryed to right himself.

Rand Paul is a person who did much worse and never tryed to right himself.

If you ask me Rand needs a greater sentence than showden, in fact snowden needs to be hired as the head of NSA.

sovereign

Here is a reasonable sentence for Rand Paul.

"You are a disgrace."

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

Maybe he was thinking of Obama returning from his

lavish Hawaiian vacation.

If freedom of the press would protect a reporter from being punished for revealing a political crime story, wouldn't the same concept apply to Snowden who reported to the American public the extra Constitutional activities of the federal government.

I say Rand is way off base, and this smacks of attempting to curry support from both sides of the fence.

Shame on you Rand.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Rand is usually pretty careful

I reserve judgement for now.

Edward

did not sell secrets to our enemies for personal gain...in fact he gave up a lot to expose LIES and CRIMES being committed by the criminal establishment.

The Constitution is the law of the land and the 4th Amendment is very clear on what the law is. You need probable cause to investigate a citizen.

So are we not a nation of laws and not a nation of men?

It is clear to me who the TRAITORS are and it is THEY that should be tried for treason!

Bastards.

Why should he go

to jail? For telling us who he works for is breaking the law? So he goes to jail? It makes no sense to me at all.