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Pat Buchanan Fears Libertarian Trend

Pat Buchanan Engages in Reefer Madness

Conservative commentator and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan spoke on ‘The McLaughlin Group’ about the legalization of marijuana in Colorado. “I think it is, to a degree, coming to an end, which means there will be more potheads, and more high school dropouts and more automobile accidents involving marijuana, John,” he said.

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I drove home from my college graduation high as hell...

Just kidding...

But I do have a bachelor's degree, a 3.3 GPA, never been convicted of a crime, and have never had a driving accident while stoned.

AND I HAVE DRIVEN WHILE HIGH MANY MANY TIMES! AND SMOKED WHILE DRIVING MANY MANY TIMES.

So I am anecdotal evidence that driving while high/smoking is not very scary.

It is too bad that this bias exists out there; not just in Pat, but in MOST PEOPLE!

We have a serious prescription med issue among adults and kids, including drugs having to do with childhood "disorders." And the prescription issue gets very little overall traction. But the POT ISSUE has a huge rut driven through society.

People with very little investment in many topics WILL WEIGH IN with their anti-pot bias.

And people with very evidence or time invested studying the pot issue WILL WEIGH IN with their anti-pot bias.

What can I say, anti-potism is BUILT IN TO THE MODERN PROPAGANDA???

Pat has to get that image started that all

Libertarian leaning voters are pot heads and against all god fearing people.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

Oh cummon, go easy on Pat. I still like him.....

... The bottom line is that Pat Buchanan is a TRUE old right, paleo conservative (when his "OG", lol, style of conservatism was the mainstream, it wasnt obviously caled "paleo" conservative), NEVER said he was a Libertarian, so whats the big deal? Are we so closed minded that we cant ally with anyone unless they fit in our purity box? Theres a reason Ron Paul doesnt call him self a paleo CONSERVATIVE, because there is a difference. Libertarianism is the heart and soul of MODERN conservatism, believe it or not. Modern conservatism is rooted in figure heads like Berry Goldwater and to the more watered down version, but more accepted in the mainstream is Ronald Reagan before he became president. What binds this updated Conservatism is freedom (freedom relatively compared to Libertarianism. But compared to the mainstream pols and voters is freedom most likely in economics). Libertarianism at its virtual, or in practice/"in one way or another" philosophically or "outlook" is the heart of modern conservatism because the core principal is more freedom, which usually means economically. But old right conservatism is less defined by economics and more of a principal of keeping the american traditions in all its forms, which governmentally meant constitutionalism, which is where it indirectly agrees with libertarianism. Old right strongly believed you should accept the world as it is and not try to be arrogant and try to control nature or the world with state via military force (and when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. TERRIBLE philosophy), which is where old right thought indirectly agrees with libertarianism.. Modern right (not NEO conservatism which is a fraud) adopted many of these old values or were influenced by them and its why, unfortunately in some ways but good in others religious right was attracted to conservatism... What does all this mean? It means that the conservatism is a natural ally because many of our values intersect and are the same even though unintentionally, even though the old right tended to disagree with us the most, but it doesnt mean they are our enemies. NEO cons and economic liberals and democrat war haws are our enemies! Pick your battles and dont be fools! Pat Buchanan defended Ron Paul MANY times against Beck, Hannity and others... The Old Right paleo conservatism unintentionally paved way for the religious right to become adopted into the modern right mostly during the 80s and the religious right unintentionally allowed neoconservatism to be borne out of the more modern right. How so? Because neoconservatism intellectually believes in good vs evil, moral and immoral and of course the residue left over from our cultural defects of tribalism in that Muslims are Christian enemies (even though this directly goes againsts the teachings of the ever loving Lord Jesus Christ. I am actually a Buddhist, believe or not, but I studied Jesus alot and I absolutely love the man/Messiah. He was divine, no doubt and ahead of his time. I just dont call myself a christian because I believe its "not that simple" as Bible and Christian doctrine teaches. I am not anti semetic, but the reason Neconservatism was mostly practiced and practiced most vigorously by Jewish Americans is that Judaism believes Jews are not just a religion but a tribe and like Islam, war is not taboo or thought to be inherently ungodly. Jesus did. War and tribalism, like in Islam, is not blaspheme, but again, a necessity at times.

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Pat is too old to be that ignorant

He's good on some things, but he's fascist on others.

History will put him solidly on the side of evil, and he had many that respect him trying to remediate him. He has ignored them.

All he ever had to do was understand economics. Possibly it's not too late for him, but he's old and it's unlikely he will wake up now.

Simply, Pat has the devout anti-marxism that all fascists do. It's still collectivist crap arguing against other collectivist crap. A competing religion.

Pat, it's not too late for you. You could still embrace logic and liberty. Reread Hazlitt and Smith. Or just Hazlitt, much more succinct.

Pat you could be the Smedley Butler of the protectionists. You could be the champion of liberty.

Wake the fcuk up.

hehe, Berry Goldwater you

hehe, Berry Goldwater you said and I locked it in. Great comment!

Wow that is a REALLY great Jefferson quote Ive never heard....

That is a really great quote, wow! Ive never heard that one before. Thank you!

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I thought I tagged this to the quote....

But it came as its own quote... Oops

Ron Paul 2012

Really like the graphic at the link

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What is wrong with Pat Buchanan?

...and just who makes real money off of the "war" on drugs?

More than half of America's 6 million prisoners are in jail for drug convictions, with 80% of those in jail for "possession."

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-americans-in-jail-20...

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Buchanan opposes the drug war.

At least for marijuana. And he's overall favorable to the libertarian trend in the Republican party. He does not appeal to the state to impose his private moral beliefs. This thread is misguided.

He has some good instincts

But he is a fascist. He believes in central banking. What more needs said?

He is a collectivist. He loves political power. Yes he tends to favor more judicious use than we do. (and may I consider you in 'we' here? Yes I call you out on statism but that's compared to me)

Pat thinks we need to protect (ie coddle) US industry from failure. This has the exact same effect as 'protecting' the individual from failure.

Corporate welfare weakens corporations no less, even more so, than individual welfare. This is why we have crap auto industry, we 'protected' them out of the market.

Do we agree on this?

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What a douchebag!

PB is controlled opposition.

Screw him.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Let's not forget Buchanan was Nixon's top speechwriter

Probably the last person I would expect to endorse legalizing any type of drug.

I doubt his opinion has changed one iota in 40 years on the subject. I disagree, but respect him for that.

Nixon Republicans in general were VERY anti-drug.

Not surprisingly as that generation ages, drug laws are beginning to be reviewed.

The OP is misleading at best.

Pat Buchanan
...troubled by the harrowing, drug-fueled violence in Mexico, he asked in a recent Human Events column, “How does one win a drug war when millions of Americans who use recreational drugs are financing the cartels…?” In his view, “There are two sure ways to end this war swiftly: Milton’s way and Mao’s way. Mao Zedong’s communists killed users and suppliers alike, as social parasites. Milton Friedman’s way is to decriminalize drugs and call off the war.” ... “Which is the greater evil? Legalized narcotics for America’s young or a failed state of 110 million on our southern border?”

http://blog.norml.org/2010/08/16/the-great-eight-unlikely-no...

The OP just copied and pasted

The OP just copied and pasted from the article.

by OP I mean original post,

by OP I mean original post, not poster.

Supporting legalization

Supporting legalization doesn't mean marijuana never effects anyone negatively. It seems like a lot people are caught up in a thoughtless mentality where marijuana is some sort of idol that can do no evil. Sorry but 14 year olds smoking all day and people smoking and then driving isn't good just because prohibition is stupid. Few things more obnoxious than a convinced pothead, like dealing with a religious fundamentalist.

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I can tell...

You don't know JACK!

Please, do go on and enlighten us more with your stupidity.

There is, at least, one thing more obnoxious that a "convinced pothead". Its a self-righteous pompous ass that seeks to tell others what they can or can not do in their individual pursuits of liberty.

Wanna see one? Look in the mirror!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Can you say "It's not a drug,

Can you say "It's not a drug, it's a plant" for me?

Also, why so angry and aggressive? Not helping your argument. What, run out of weed? Take a toke bro, calm ya down. :D

Why can't these

older folks think in common sense with the situation, which was the same belief when prohibition ended? Those who use pot, are going to use it whether it's legal or not, just like those who drank alcohol during the prohibition. Did everybody become drunks, more high school dropouts, and more auto accidents, ah No? Those who rail against pot, either have no idea of its effects, or may have tried it before, and feared the illegality of it and became paranoid they would be caught. Alcohol has at least twice the negatives on your health, cognitive thinking, motor skills, relationships with others, aggressiveness, gateway to other drugs and so on. These 'old hats' have been brainwashed by the Fascist government for way too long, and have zero idea about the reality of it.

i think pat is drunk

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
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The bloodthirsty warmongers

Of course the bloodthirsty warmongers fear and hate pot, because it makes us peaceful.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

Pat B is regularly called an

Pat B is regularly called an isolationist for opposing pretty much all US intervention overseas. He wrote the bestseller 'A Republic, Not an Empire' in 2000, and was far more prominent in opposing the Iraq war in 2003 and 2004 than Ron Paul, who was not very well known at the time, although equally vocal.

Buchanan launched The American Conservative to publicly oppose the neocons, the war and the Bush ii direction of the party, and the magazine has since been a mainstay of traditional conservative opposition to foreign military adventurism, to the exclusion of much else of its focus.

As for marijuana, while it is certainly far less harmful and often positive in its effects, compared to the highly addictive hard drugs, I'm not aware of any evidence it makes people more peaceful.

http://addictions.about.com/od/legalissues/tp/Five-Myths-Abo...

I don't endorse everything in this article, but I think much of it is an accurate expression of current medical opinion.

While marijuana should certainly be legal and can be responsibly used by adults without negative effects, it is not magic like some people seem to think. The body was not designed to depend on marijuana anymore than it was for nicotine.

Pretending marijuana can't negatively effect the development or life of a young person or impair a driver does not make you cooler, despite popular belief. You are still just as cool and no cooler than before you thought Snoop dog would high five you.

please fill me in

has anybody actually seen someone drop out over pot----at least voluntarily

I've seen kids expelled, suspended over education's over-reaction to it,,,, but no pothead willingly dropping out because---"I'm stoned man!!!!"

now harder drugs maybe but not pot

that statement,, pot H.S. dropouts,, should immediately be met with asking for proof

and beyond all those statements,,,liberty/freedom allows for both winners, carl sagan and other successful potheads,,,, and losers ,,, the stoners they keep referring to

Yeah fck this guy

he helped create the CIA project Mockingbird of which Alex Jones is an asset of; not surprisingly Buchanan is a Knight of Malta who ultimately serves the Jesuitical Papacy.

down voted for the linking of

down voted for the linking of Alex Jones. Sorry but the information that Jones puts out is not what the Vatican or the Illuminati would want in public. As far as fck this guy... I agree.

Youre just making stuff up on

Youre just making stuff up on Alex, that isnt cool man. Nobody says that al-Qaeda is runned by our government, other then Alex Jones! How do you feel about Ron Paul? Or Rand Paul? Same thing? Lol, stop it.

The Jesuits operate on both sides of the dialectic

and thus control the alternative media and the mainstream media. So yes, Infowars are often right about the low-level stuff,but when it comes to the real conspiracy of Rome, not a word is uttered. There is need for alternatives to the alternative media.

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Jones-CIA.htm


http://youtu.be/oDUMp0OniVI


http://youtu.be/p-cWKsgIcGU


http://youtu.be/tW8W1pV9pes

At this point

is where I would present facts disproving your point, then you would come back at me with something completely unrelated. In other words, you wouldn't really care, so I'm just going to say...you're post are so ridiculous they're funny.

It is ridiculous, isn't it?

How ridiculous it is that the USA is a corporation and colony under Great Britain; how ridiculous it is that taxpayer money goes to the Vatican, and how ridiculous it is that the American people are being dictated to through secret societies and religious orders. How ridiculous it is that anyone can take someone who acts like this seriously:


http://youtu.be/l9RBXlE86Ng