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Send Mark Levin a Message from us "Neo-Confederates"

Update from Tom Woods, via Facebook:

"If you are involved in this plan to bombard Mark Levin's book on Amazon with negative reviews because you do not like him, I urge you not to do this. We are better than this. Writing a book is very hard work, and an author is owed the decency of having his work read before someone criticizes it. We don't need to resort to this tactic. It is wrong."

-Thomas E. Woods Jr.

Here is Tom's challenge to debate Mark Levin: Tom Woods Calls Out Mark Levin: Debate, or Shut Up!

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I have requested that my post and this thread be pulled

Upon reflection, I did not consider the hard work and efforts of others in our movement to restore liberty that could be adversely affected through my actions.

To employ a tactic that was intended to draw attention to an idea is no reason to stoop to a level unbecoming of our standards.

Please accept my apologies

"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

Michael Nystrom's picture

David

I had updated the post yesterday with Tom's message above your post, and leaving yours in tact below.

Upon seeing your request, I've left Tom's message, and removed what you had originally posted.

I'm reluctant to take the thread down entirely, as it has been linked to from you-know-who's camp.

And when people arrive from places hither-and-yon on the Internet, looking to find a juicy piece of red meat, only to find a "Page Not Found" it tends to amp up the rage and feed conspiracy theories.

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Apology accepted. Thanks for stepping up to the plate.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

This doesn't open minds - it shuts them.

No one is going to get "enlightened" by ideas that are spread this way. They will only be offended and turn their backs.

I feel this is dishonest and antithetical to everything Ron Paul promotes. I also don't think it adheres to the purpose of the dailypaul.
http://www.dailypaul.com/guide

I would like to see an end to this practice.

NJ

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"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

That word "confederate" can be turned back on him ...

... because he is trying to use it in a dishonest way.

By using the term "confederate" or "neo-confederate," he is implying something like the Confederate States of America of the 19th century, and of course following from that, something akin to promoting slavery.

But "confederation" is just an agreement among parties to join together for a common purpose. We had the Articles of Confederation, after all. The American federalist system under the Constitution is also a confederation among the states. The European Union is a confederation.

So, is Mark Levin (and others who use that tactic) opposed to the American confederation, first under the Articles of Confederation and then under the federal Constitution?

And as for his followers, always remind them that a constitutional convention was called to amend the Articles of Confederation, but they ended up killing it and replacing it with something else. Ask his followers, "Is that what you want? Do you want the Constitution to be throw out and replaced with something the United Nations would like?"

We've Been Here Before....

....Have you all forgotten?

Thank God the format has changed and the DP can't be flooded with the multitudes of "Levine"-trolls that he mobilized the last time something like this was suggested.
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This is akin to the same thug-like behavior of Chris "Fatso" Christie,of "Bridge-Gate" notoriety.
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Besides;
It's comical the way Mark "LEVINE" has been desperately attempting to run a smokescreen for Christie and the GOP.

Let's promote the REAL LIBERTY BOOKS via grassroots, commentary in multiple venues....DO NOT Give "Levine" a "Free-Ride" by allowing him to use this as a PR STUNT.........just a suggestion.
P.S.
Inasmuch "we" detest being labeled "neo-confederates",
"The Great One"(snicker)aka Mark Levine, ONLY said that to ellicit a "response from "us neo-confederates" (LOL)......DON'T TAKE the BAIT!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

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"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

Grow a spine: this is war against a hated enemy and cowards can

Grow a spine: this is war against a hated enemy and cowards can leave whenever their nerves give out.

Downvoting Levin's books is a glorious protest of his stupidity,and a stern warning to potential customers that their brains may suffer from his arguments.

I say, we must downvote ALL his accursed books. Who cares if his neo-con zombies downvote Tom Woods? Tom may, because his financial happiness is on the line. But I sure don't. Just as long as that satanic Firster suffers!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Don't let anger take over your brain

This is not having a spine and spamming book reviews is not fighting a war. It's petty and obnoxious. It'll have no impact on his book sales and his fans are never going to find your angry posts informative.

NJ

Okay, I get it... the more down votes, the more Levinites get

to see the opposition. BUT... bear in mind that flaunting hatred begets more hatred. That's NOT typical of us at all! You are only adding fuel to their fire that we are a bunch of kooks in our mothers' basements. Nothing could be further from the truth and you are keeping the devoted Levinites from learning the truth about their "great one". I once admired the man, until he tipped his hand. The deceit is always masked in his diatribes, but it he is still deceiving his remaining listeners. We learned. We grew, not just in knowledge but, in numbers. Stay focused on what we are all about... peace, sound money, and love.

There are well over 88,000 people lurking here as I type this. Please, keep to the intelligent discourse that led most of us to become members here in the first place. http://www.dailypaul.com/309740/i-love-this-place Otherwise, you do the rest of us a great disservice. Let the lurkers discover, to their surprise, just how intelligent and compassionate we really are.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

A neo-con lady gave a newly libertarian friend a Levin book

I asked her to remember how Levin and Beck would say some things true about the constitution and history, and then totally misrepresent and slander Ron Paul. The sulfur-smoke cleared, and the liberty light came on, as she no longer cared what, "The GREAT One", had to say about anything; other than to ask her neo-con friend why she bought his line in the first place.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Here's what should happen

As Tom Woods has asked, we should not be down voting his book without reading it. What should happen is we should add the link to the debate challenge video at the top of this post - get rid of the call to downvote his book. (Levin has linked to this very post on his Facebook)

I'm sure most of us here on this forum are opposed to attacking another persons' books. Levin fans visiting should be aware that he has been engaged in childish name calling. We shouldn't join him down in the dirt.

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

Michael Nystrom's picture

Thanks Aaron

I updated the thread.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the headmaster of a zoo.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

But it's a really FUN zoo!

But it's a really FUN zoo!

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

Levin listeners, does Tom

Levin listeners, does Tom Woods sound like a nut job here?

http://tomwoods.com/blog/hey-mark-levin-debate-us-or-shut-up...

Mark Levin thinks he does. So he says, anyway, but my guess is he's just calling Dr. Woods names because he's AFRAID to debate him on the issue of nullification - whether state governments should be encouraged to refuse to uphold unconstitutional federal mandates.

You should ask yourselves why Mr. Levin is so afraid to debate this issue that he resorts to name calling. Here's my guess. Mark Levin talks big about being for small government, but he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's not for small government at all - he's for a large, intrusive, all powerful federal government, just with HIS team, the RED team, in charge.

Is this what conservatives really want?

If that's not what YOU think should be the conservative goal, well, you just might want to consider what Tom Woods and other conservative and libertarian thinkers like Andrew Napolitano and Walter Williams have to say about nullification.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Levin, or "LEVINE" is so hypocritical...

....it was comical that he "capped" a portion of his CSPAN interview with the statement relating to how important and wonderful his audience is........
....almost "sheepish" in his "projected-personna" displayed in a medium that is "uncomfortable" to him, by his own admission.
(He IS VERY Fearful of TV).

On TV the contorted face of an angry neo-con such as Mr.Levine would speak volumes...and expose him for what he really is.

Levine is AFRAID to debate TOM WOODS.
His (Levine's) call "screener" is as reprehensible as he.
And inasmuch as we dislike the "neo-confederate" slur he "slipped-in" to the interview?......He really resents being called "LEVINE" (LOL).
I HOPE HE'S READING THIS.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Mark Levin, do you have the

Mark Levin, do you have the cojones or not?

http://www.dailypaul.com/309696/tom-woods-calls-out-mark-levin

I thought not. Take note of the cowardice of your intellectual leader, Levinistas. Is this really the man you want to follow into political battles?

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Your post made it to his Facebook

page

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Well, this got his attention

https://www.facebook.com/marklevinshow

So since this little tyrant blocked me from his fanatic page, I will simply write that Levin is wrong, Mr. Woods has made the challenge to debate for shut up.

For the record I could completely care less if this is ethical or not, his book is shear propaganda and I will fight it anyway I can. I don't have to read it, it comes from the talk radio cabal of Levin-Hannity-Limbaugh and Ingram, than it's a lie, pure and simple.

I am not threatened by these neo con artists, it is just a war and we intend to win it.

So, Levin, ya coward....debate Tom Woods on air?????

"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

UGH!!!

"I could completely care less if this is ethical or not..."

Get a grip! That's how progressives think!
What are you - Karl Rove?!

NJ

Wrong kind of attention

Let's not. Let's promote Woods's video challenge instead.

Thumbed down.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

JiveDadson...Correct!

We should take the high road, even though Levine has been too cowardly to do now...and in the past.
Another bit of research into this scenario...very telling:
DECEMBER 2011:

http://youtu.be/lmZeyaDsNss

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Instead

Bombard his facebook page with this link:

http://www.dailypaul.com/309696/tom-woods-calls-out-mark-levin

Let's see the coward respond.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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I don't think this is a great idea

unless one has read the book.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

I agree

Promoting your viewpoint through book review sabotage? That's lame.

A story on Drudge, I think

says a court has ruled that Yelp must give up the IP addresses of persons who gave bad reviews of a contractor. Contractor claims reviewers had not actually used his service.

Besides, it's just a really bad idea. Michael, I suggest you remove this thread to 404 land.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

come on! we're above this aren't we?

huummm...isn't this one of those actions you dream about doing with an evil smile and then decide not to...like throwing a rock through your cheating ex's bedroom window...fun to consider...but not do.

Anyhoo, I think Tom Woods can handle Levin with one arm tied behind his back!

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

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Mr. Levin just linked this post on his FB.

LEVINITES, CHECK THIS OUT! The kooks are plotting in their mothers' basements!

https://www.facebook.com/marklevinshow/posts/101006091614574...

Edit: and again, here.

lol, probably googling

lol, probably googling himself all day. what a clown.