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The Daily Paul is Not Broken

This post is in response to "The Daily Paul is Broken." http://www.dailypaul.com/309622/the-daily-paul-is-broken

I don't think the Daily Paul is broken.

Calling something broken is not constructive criticism, and as mentioned in the comments section, no solutions were offered. Not that that makes the post mean spirited or anything, just not real suggestive--just critical.

Many people like to remind us newbies when we make comments, that we have only been members for X amount of time. I have been a member for only a few months, but followed the DP since Michael published the site. I myself don't see a problem with the format at all. I think we can all recognize the majority of the posts that aren't worth our time, and the solution there is don't click the link! I like the "most viewed posts" format because I keeps me from having to sift through endless pages of material--sure I may miss reading something, but these posts always seem to reappear in the list again at a later date.

There is a chat forum now and there never was one before, which is another stream of information and discussion. Then there is DP Radio--yet another stream. As for the short posts, I think those posts keep the site grounded, and reminds us that the DP started at a grass roots level, if you eliminate those individuals or groups whom you don't think are worthy of posting to the site, I believe you diminish the spirit of the Daily Paul--while the DP is a great source of news, it is not a news site. We are all free to express ourselves from our own perspective, not the perspective that that is filtered through an editor, or dilluted because there are restrictions on what we say or how we say it.

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ecorob's picture

Actually, calling something broken...

can be very beneficial. If you are right.

Its called constructive criticism and when learned from (and made right) the entity becomes stronger and better.

Constructive criticism is good but you must be specific, generally speaking in the process of distilling what is the ultimate "right", as we strive to make it better.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

egapele's picture

Amen, plus a million

It is what makes me come to this site every day.

Literally every day.

egapele's picture

It will never break, it has too many splinters

Been a member for a while. What fascinates me most is seeing how RIGHT people are on this site - whether I live their lifestyle or not.

P.S. I wouldn't pay for my membership had it not been for its awesome moderation. Dividers abound and they are easily spotted.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Come on - who are we kidding?

Of course its broken. The mission is gone.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
the strangerr's picture

“Of course it's broken”

“Of course it's broken” MN
Damn that's funny – distilled experience.

Hey man, let it break some more, shatter to pieces, melt it down, make a new lens...

The mission was noble; arrest the collapse through the existing political machinery. It electrified the heart and minds of many. In the end, the energy was redirected. Control of the machinery lacking, lost, illusory.

Still, it was a vital lesson. We need light to know a worthy path from quicksand. Perhaps the mission now is to understand the situation, its stages, and live accordingly. Abandon the pursuit of happiness, savor the happiness of pursuit. It's still an adventure.

ecorob's picture

lol..really, lol!

Just the same, manystrom, look me up if you're ever in TN.

Hang in there, brother!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

egapele's picture

Ugh

See my message above.

Define "The mission" as I am not sure. To get Ron Paul elected?

When, 2008?

It couldn't have been in 2012 because it truly became the Daily Johnson according to Le&aliseLi*erty, whose every post became front page.

Kind of OT but

what is keeping me away from the site are the new ads for some kind of "game" - tired of the bare covered chest and what follows in the video. I try to scroll down quickly (I have a teenage son who I homeschool who sits right next to me) but lo-an-behold there is the ad a second time with the same scantily clad woman's chest.

I understand about advertising, free speech, etc., but this is just simply uncomfortable. Which means I don't have to come to the site, I know the rhetoric, just sad that the reason has to do with soft porn in my face every time I log on.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

wolfe's picture

Something you should know about the ads...

Some, are no doubt random, but most are actually served up based on your browsing history. It's all relatively creepy to me, but... If I go to newegg, to look for some gadget, I start seeing ads for that gadget from newegg and similar sites while here at the DP. If I go to wayfair to check out furniture, then I start seeing those ads here as well. (It's not limited to the DP.)

I have seen the gamer ads, but I play games, so assume it got sucked in because of my browsing history at some point, (though maybe not).

Perhaps, you should see what your teenage son is using your computer for while you are away... :)

Btw, there are plugins you can pick up which will allow you to block ads and scripts that you don't like... or, you could pay the subscription fee and get rid of all of that nonsense. $10 a month is not so much and it helps to keep the site going.

I just renewed my subscription. Well, I thought I had but something must have glitched. I need to go fix that.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

Or, perhaps, as Leonard Cohen would say

There is a crack in the Daily Paul. That's how the light gets in.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Michael Nystrom's picture

Nice

It is, kind of, broken.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

I was the original poster

So I'll come out of the woodwork. Broken was the wrong word to use, and like I mentioned in my post, I love this site and I'm only looking to make it better. In fact, if you re-read the post, Michael himself seemed to understand my sentiment and agreed to a certain extent.

Now let me give an example. I've checked this site over 20 times today (not exaggerating, and I'm sure many of you have done the same). I just re-visited this site a few minutes ago, and like I mentioned in my post, so that I'm not missing anything important, I click through every page to see if there's anything new. Michael and others have suggested I use this link: http://www.dailypaul.com/top/today, but on page 4 I found this post: 'Sen. Sanders: NSA and Congressional Blackmail 'A Real Threat' which is not found on the link or found under 'Most Viewed Posts.' I don't want to have to always click through every page to make sure I don't miss something. If you also read the comments of my original post, I suggested using infinite scroll. I also mentioned that I wasn't an expert, only have a bit of experience building websites, and an expert could probably provide much better feedback.

Like I said, I totally messed up in titling the post, but read what I have to say instead of just putting down a suggestion or comment. I've been on this site for years, and if you look at other sites, especially news sites, they change with time.

Another thing I'd like, a mobile friendly version or even an app. Look, I don't know what the intentions of the site's owners are (in terms of making it into a business) and where they want to take this thing, but it's become one of my favorite sites and I spend a good part of my day on it, and for "power users" like me, these simple things make a big difference.

Joη's picture

miss nothing:

use the "New" link on the blue bar.
http://www.dailypaul.com/chrono

Or see everything:
http://www.dailypaul.com/archive

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Still don't think that

Still don't think that provides the best user experience, but thats just my 2 cents, others can disagree.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I was thinking about this last night

And while there are always ways to improve the Daily Paul, I think the issue that you're really getting at is the amount of information on the site. There is just so much of it.

The problem is the same with any medium, including the newspaper. You get the paper. It sits on the table and you plan to read it. You start reading it, but with a big paper like the NY Times, or the WSJ, there is so much information. So many sections!

There is no way you can read the whole thing. And then the next day there is a new paper.

Forget about the online versions. Can you read everything that was posted here, every day? www.nytimes.com

Again, I'm open to suggestions on how to make it better, as I know Jon is as well.

But I think the fact that a Bernie Sanders story got buried on page 4 is more of a testament to the fact that Bernie isn't too popular around here.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
egapele's picture

You CAN'T make it better

You're already doing it!!!

90% of what I have learned about the following came from here:

- Ron Paul (check)
- How to become a Precinct Chair (check)
- Alternative methods to cure / combat / prevent cancer (check)
- Police militarism (check)
- Federal Reserve (check) - should have been first

I hesitate to go on because if I did you'd all see what an idiot I was before I found you.

Slaughts31's picture

hear, hear!

No doubt, excellent site. Worth the membership $. Grassroots at heart...DP Chat, DP Radio, excellent commenting platform.

And as a wise DP member, dwalters, posted recently, it's on us to generate quality content (http://www.dailypaul.com/309174/making-the-daily-paul-sparkl...).

I believe this is a core idea of the liberty movement and the r3VOLution. It's on US! Not central planning.

I'm flattered

Put a smile on my face after a long day.

Thanks!