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Anybody with questions regarding the 14th ammendment

making you a federal citizen... Here you go. It's kind of ironic how clearly the fraud is exposed in the explanation or defense of tax protesting. Either way, the IRS clearly states

"The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines the basis for United States citizenship, stating, "[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." The Fourteenth Amendment therefore establishes simultaneous state and federal citizenship. Claims that individuals are not citizens of the United States but are solely citizens of a sovereign state and not subject to federal taxation have been uniformly rejected by the courts."

What is the United States, in terms of the IRS? D.C. and possessions. Notice how they say "jurisdiction" not "jurisdictions" plural. It's a singular body, corporate. Now lets be clear, before the 14th Amendment, you know from the times of the tyrannical Lincoln, we weren't federal citizens, and didn't pay 16th amendment tax. United States citizenship is a citizenship of a corporation. Do I know how to get out of the citizenship of the corporation? NO! That is the biggest problem I believe we are facing. But, here we are.

http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employ...

United States Code on Cornell

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

15 (A)“United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

Damn. It doesn't get more clear then that. F^&%*&^ S*^(, A United States citizen is a citizen of a Federal CORPORATION. People rail about this stuff all the time. But, these are clear codes! This isn't a long drawn out line of crap, we are working for a corporation.

According to

A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856

" 5. The United States of America are a corporation endowed with the capacity to sue and be sued, to convey and receive property. 1 Marsh. Dec. 177, 181. But it is proper to observe that no suit can be brought against the United States without authority of law.
6. The states, individually, retain all the powers which they possessed at the formation of the constitution, and which have not been given to congress."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/United+states+...

So, at that time anyway, there were no citizens of "the United States", but only of the several states -which changed, I gather, with the 14th Amendment. Do sovereigns seek to nullify both their federal and state citizenship?

1871 is when the formal

1871 is when the formal government of D.C. was established or incorporated, and at the time, original jurisdiction govt. had assumed 2 roles, one of the United States of America and one of the newly created D.C. govt, or Corp US. Corp US has a constitution, that being the CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES, not "of".

I know this stuff sounds crazy, but it is real. Lincoln was a a$$hole. The 14th amendment, the one applied today to US Corp citizens today, brings all citizens into Corp. US. Sovereigns seek, at least to my understanding, to remove themselves from Corp. US citizenship. We used to be sovereign, Corp. US took control, and has the power to tax, because in essence, you claim you are a citizen or member, therefore use "their" services. This is extremely layman's terms, but incredibly interesting. I'm learning... It's also assumed states have incorporated as well, and current gov't members of those states are members of the US Corp. Original Jurisdication gov't, the one created by the Original Constitution, has most all of it's seats sitting vacant.

larry becraft has debunked this many times

read his work.
This is PAYtriot mythos.

Thanks Mike.

Thanks Mike.

Thanks for posting the link, very interesting

Basically, they are saying:

"We own you because we say so..."

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

We own you because you complied, you consented

You did not question. You did not investigate. You did not retaliate. You did nothing.

we own you because

we have a superior violence making machine.

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The cheese stands alone. The proof is in the pudding.

police state

With the mentality of police officers today, do you guys think this is still possible?

There's only one way to find

There's only one way to find out. You just can't have no fear! I'm seriously tired of this garbage. I'm going to start driving tomorow without plates, if I get stopped, I'm definitely filming everything, so let's see what happens lol. I won't play dumb with the cops, like "why are you pulling me over officer?" I'm going to explain the constitution to them and try to show them that their violating it. If all that fails, then I guess it's suing time! I'll keep you guys updated. Love ya

The guy dowm my street drives around with an

American flag for plates. I've seen other do it around where I live.

Thanks for standing up, your head held high

Remember to have your affidavit of truth, fee schedule, film everything. remember to demand their oaths of office, their bond. Remember the common law court, jury nullification. Keep us posted

I know someone in Colorado who stopped using plates,

and spent 40 days in the clink. She declared herself to be "sovereign" and notified the sheriff of her decision. She was the daughter of a Colorado state rep.

If you are going to go through with it ...

and want any opinions of experience from one who has done it ... send me a PM. When you write "I'm going to explain the constitution to them and try to show them that their violating it" ... I am skeptical on your behalf. If anyone is considering doing it I would suggest having a goal or strategy in mind a little more comprehensive than a conversation on the side of the road with an ignorant cop who probably doesn't give a shit about anything you have to say.

Please advise us of your experience

There are more of us who are considering doing this, and need to know from those who have done.

Pondering it ...

There are real economic consequences to taking on a state. Some people state they want to do this or that but when a moment of pressure comes they cave because of a realization there is more to be lost than gained.

I on the other hand am not in that position and I am not sure how I feel about blindly offering advice or assistance to someone who might come under pressure and decide they don't want to go through with it. I really do not want to feel bad about influencing someone to do something they really do not want to do which will likely have consequences because many in the United States are being coerced by dishonest, unjust institutions. On the other hand if there is anything I could offer that may be of help to someone I would do it.

I write a lot about law but if one looks through my comment history the few times I have offered suggestions to other people my advice is often just pay whatever it is and move on because for most people taking on city hall or a state really isn't worth it in terms of time, money, or aggravation.

So being that I do not care what priests in black robes think or have anything to lose really except my own life ... I am considering whether or not I want to offer to champion this cause. Perhaps it would be better to just do it myself and try to set something up where people can support the cause without taking on any of the personal liability or risk that goes with it.

However it is not something I care to do entirely by myself. The liability/risk part is fine but if one was really interested in going for the juggler of the state on a travel issue it would require a coordinated effort. There needs to be some video evidence, a paper trail, the ability to get documents submitted to magistrates or judges while in jail, documents and strategy should be well planned in advance so for the most part there doesn't need to be any last minute scramble to prepare anything other than an occasional response to a state motion.

Like I said, I am pondering it over and may do a video laying out a proposal because I am wholly of the opinion an organized, planned effort will go a lot farther than a few lone rangers trying to do everything. Maybe some people would be interested in working together on freedom to travel in a way that would not require everyone to take on all of the risk and liability ... maybe not.

Whenever the cop is confused then...

he lets the court decide normally!

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

My goal is just to live free!

My goal is just to live free! Anyway, how do you think I should approach it? What did you do and say? Did you get arrested?

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The cheese stands alone. The proof is in the pudding.

I admire your convictions...

Please do keep us updated. I am unable to do any bold freedom ideas until August and this post has inspired me. If you are successful in putting their feet to the fire then I will do both no plates and no driver license here in Colorado.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

Keep us posted!

Keep us posted!

Absolutely!

Charlie Sprinkle is absolutely correct. We live in a free country.

The cheese stands alone. The proof is in the pudding.

A legal reality

The revolutionary war was fought to win political independence, not to win individual freedom. (unfortunately)

Upon winning the war, American government was "free" from the crown, but the individual was still subject to government. (unfortunately)

Many were told "america is a free country" as a child to give them a sense of national identity. This identity became a part of their self image and has be used to manipulate them...

Amen

Amen

yeah right

it may be nice that the government is free to do as it pleases but the individuals that make up society are subject to the legislature.

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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

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I hear you and agree...

that is my goal also. Thanks a bunch for the post...

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."