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U.S. Troops Kill 4 Year-Old Afghan Boy (That Would Be You and Me)

Translation...YOU and ME and EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN killed him.

If anyone disagrees, remind them that it is THEIR tax dollars and THEIR government's national policies which allows it.

I realize most Americans couldn't care less about it because they've got football games and "Dancing with the Stars" programs to watch.

And besides...who wants to be bothered with stories like this anyway?

By the way - I saw this story on "RUSSIA TODAY!" That's because the rotted, lying mainstream American media won't report it.

The bankers buy off the media to keep quiet so they can keep their perpetual wars going.

But just realize, the blood of that little boy (and every foreign person we kill) is on your hands if you are an American.

I can't do much about it, but at least I'm aware of it and will report it to as many other Americans as I can.

By the way, this should make the republican war-mongers very pleased to know we're gunning down kids in the middle east who don't look quite like them.

You know, rats like Lyndsey Graham, John McCain, Bill Kristol, Michael Medved, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Bill O'Reilly, John Bolton, Rush Limbaugh etc

Story here...
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/afghanistan/ar...



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What's notable is how quiet the liberals are on our continued...

..."war" and occupation in Afghanistan,

Of course the republicans are quiet about it because they WANT more wars and occupations.

but now that their man is in the White House, the liberals are as quiet as a church mouse while we go on killing and killing.

And the media is bought by both of them.

Why wasn's this story on the front page of every newspaper in America?

I had to go to "Russia Today" to find out about it.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

You are guilty for a lot more than some little boy

How about the thousands in US jails for drug crimes, traffic violations and not paying their taxes.

You are guilty for the death of every person in the US shot or executed by the police and/or govt. You are guilty for the crushing debt your children will inherit - for the destruction of the family and millions of children without two parents.

You are guilty of the murder of millions of children murdered in the US annually via abortion. You are guilty of the exploitation of women and children in pornography and those abducted as sex slaves.

You are guilty of supporting public schools that have dumbed down the nations children and indoctrinated them into socialism and subjugated them to govt.

Is this the same mentality

Is this the same mentality that if somebody steals my gun and kills someone with it, then it's my fault?

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. -Thomas Jefferson
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Bronko - That is a very fair question and well thought-out.

Because you certainly could equate taxes with theft.

And based on your analogy, if the government uses those taxes to kill people, then it's the same as if someone steals your gun and uses it to kill people.

I'm going to have to think about this for a while to see if you have just won this argument.

Because if I pay taxes in protest (because I'm forced to pay taxes under threat of imprisonment), then does that mean I can claim no association with anything my government does with my money?

The problem is, the world sees us ALL as Americans who kill their people.

They don't seperate us anti-war types out and say we're OK. They just hate Americans as a whole because all they know is that we just killed their little boy.

The point of my original post was to get people thinking about these things and not bury their heads in the sand as if it wasn't happening.

Our media doesn't report this, our tax dollars go to fund it and our politicians make the policies which authorize it.

There's one other issue here besides taxes - it's who is making the policies - which means who we voted into positions of power.

Since we are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC, then by definition, anything our government does REPRESENTS us.

But I guess if you voted for principled candidates (like many of us here did), and they lost, then you've done about all you could.

As I said in my original post, there isn't much I can do about it other than being aware of it, and educating others about.

But all that being said, I don't think I answered your question very well. You may have got me.

I'll have to give it more thought as to blaming myself and all other Americans for our government's actions.

Perhaps I could rephrase it to say all Americans are guilty except those who voted for candidates who didn't support American imperialism - like Ron Paul for instance.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

yup

Same logic.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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Not on my hands..

I quit paying federal taxes and do not recognize the federal government as anything other than a criminal enterprise. The president should be imprisoned for his drone attacks.

No, that would not be "you

No, that would not be "you and me". You're engaging in the collectivist thinking of Democrats.

The USG is not MY Government

While you may still consent to this murderous system, I do not. So please do not conflate the actions committed by psychopaths occupying the District of Criminals with "We the People."

Sorry Allison - Same answer to you: If you pay taxes, then...

...you DO support the American government and thus its policies.

The truth hurts sometimes.

But go ahead and keep fooling yourself into thinking otherwise.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Lysander says no

www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/lysander-spooner/no-treason-the-...

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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You really should consider

You really should consider talking less collectivist if you want to get your msg across. I stopped reading after you said I killed someone. Did I vote for any of these assholes? No. Did I give money to the system? No. Did I drop the bomb? Nope. So how exactly did i kill someone? Oh, I didn't, you are just a fool.

Hey "ItMakesYouWant". You call ME a fool, yet you asked:

"Did I give money to the system? No."

Answer:
But if you paid any taxes then you DID pay into the system. And if you DON'T pay taxes, then tell me your secret.

"Then you asked "Did I drop the bomb? Nope. So how exactly did I kill someone?"

Answer:
Again I say if you paid any taxes then you DID drop the bomb. And if you DON'T pay taxes, then tell me your secret.

Now who's the fool?

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

For your consideration. Do you pay taxes?

If you pay any taxes, purchase products of multinational conglomerates, do not grow all your own food, drive a fossil fuel burning vehicle, etc. you are probably participating in the system that is killing innocents. Sorry.

beephree

Herbrp - I voted you up against all the downvotes.

They want to deny the truth and think that somehow THEIR tax dollars go somewhere else other than to the U.S. military killing people around the world.

Your statement was exactly correct. I'll repeat it here:

"If you pay any taxes, purchase products of multinational conglomerates, do not grow all your own food, drive a fossil fuel burning vehicle, etc. you are probably participating in the system that is killing innocents. Sorry."

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Thank you. It is always interesting to me the hypocracy

and refusal of people to even observe their own consumption habits. Everyone making comments here is using the internet, various computing devices, servers, communication networks, hardware, etc. that is developed by multinationals, most of which are tied to the military industrial complex. Even if you are totally off grid and not using the utilities that power all these devices, you are at some level participating in the demise of some people on this planet less fortunate. It is just the way it is. But anyone who pretends like they have no impact or not contributing to what our government does "in our interests" is simply delusional. Somehow they must perceive themselves as living like a remote tribe in the Amazon.

beephree

No, i'm not in anyway shape

No, i'm not in anyway shape or form contributing. Sorry.

Oh really? You don't contribute in ANY WAY? So tell me...

...how I can quit paying taxes too?

Please tell us your secret.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

"Sorry."

Yes, you certainly do seem to be quite that - sorry. Are you here as an agent of shame, spreading guilt to and fro like grass seed? Are you here to tell me that I am guilty of killing children for buying broccoli from a farmer in a town twenty miles away from me? What about his children? I'll refrain from using your level of alarm and admit that my farmer's children probably wouldn't die as the result of my ceasing broccoli transaction with him, but it certainly would result in his saving a bit less for his child's fund for medical school. I do grow carrots and radishes though. Does that by chance qualify me to take a little credit for saving a baby seal or two from those nasty club wielders or some such bit of accolade that might somewhat offset a little my otherwise potentially endless guilt?

Not in my name!

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Disagreement

Individuals exercise one's own conscience so even though crimes are conducted in my civil name, I did not personally make the ethical decision to pull a trigger on another human being.

Because this rationale parallels arguments where the ancestors of one group have oppressed another so their descendents are responsible, it subsequently should be disregarded

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Sorry to correct you MG1234, but try talking to the parents...

...of that dead Afghan boy.

As soon as you tell them you're an American, how do you think they'll feel about you?

Even though you PERSONALLY didn't kill him - you REPRESENT those who DID. You can rationalize it any way you want, but that's just the fact.

In WWII, the U.S. nuked tens of thousands of possibly innocent Japanese civilians (who may not have agreed with the actions of their government) even before the USA got involved.

But since Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor, we considered ALL of Japan fair game.

This is why it's so important for citizens not to allow their government to go around the world killing people because in the end, the whole nation gets the blame - even those who may disagree with such policies.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

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1) "try talking to the parents ...of that dead Afghan boy"

I agree that the loss of innocent life (assumedly since the article says the circumstance is unknown) is a tragedy, while deeply empathizing accordingly

2) "As soon as you tell them you're an American, how do you think they'll feel about you?"

Likely unhappy and displeased, however it is a presumption to say that I agree with the Afghan occupation or killing of innocents

3) "Even though you PERSONALLY didn't kill him - you REPRESENT those who DID"

Partially incorrect since in practice, government officialdom authorized this unjust war. As mentioned, I do not agree with our current policy and if given the opportunity to individually not participate (or affect a more ethical action), I would.
Ultimately I believe the moral of the situation would have to be resolved between the consciences of the oppressor and victim. I subsequently wish them peace

4) "..it's so important for citizens not to allow their government to go around the world killing people because in the end, the whole nation gets the blame"

Agreed. It is another reason why I advocate a "Dignitarian" model of governance
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where individuals can endow whichever public agency they believe has authentic value, while reserving the right to withdraw from abuse (inc. all taxation)

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In our name.

So sad,

I deplore these actions in my name.

I demand they stop NOW!

Our government is run by psychopaths bent on destroying the world for a worthless buck.

I wish they were that 4 year old boy.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

"WE ARE NOT OK" --- I agree Ecorob.

This country needs to look itself squarely in the mirror.

By the way, I posted this about the 4 year old boy getting killed because it's even more disturbing when we're killing kids, but this is far from the only mischief going on over there daily.

It's just that the news doesn't report any of it.

So I have to go to Russia Today to get the truth.

You know the world has been turned upside down when you have to go to a Russian news aganecy for the truth.

And when an American who tells the truth has to go to Russia for asylum.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Hmmm... lets explore your thought process...

You say this "country" needs to look itself in the mirror. (By the way, that's one big mirror we are talking about) Well, the term country is an abstract term. It's only a term that allows a human to create a structure of something that is fictitious in reality but creates certain types of boundary markers in your head for purposes of identification.

I've said this time and time again. A government that acts this way is by no means any government of mine. This government is comprised of individual people of whom are some really mentally sick individuals. I'm not certain what power does to ones mind on such a grand scale, but it definitely is not for the positive, that's for sure.

I do not condone or support what this government does. I'm NOT a supporter of the police state we are now currently living in.

To make a long story short, I definitely am disgusted by the actions of this government and it's actions it takes around the world. But reality is, I didn't have anything to do with pulling the trigger which killed that innocent 4 year old child. I deplore it. PERIOD!

Do NOT ASSOCIATE ME with THIS GOVERNMENT.

It's the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. (Thomas Paine)

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