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The House Blocks Funding To Enforce The Incandescent Light Bulb Ban

Let there be light! Warm, soft glowing, inexpensive light.

From what I can gather the Federal Government will still consider it illegal to produce or import incandescent bulbs, but “None of the funds made available in this Act may be used … to implement or enforce the standards established by the tables contained in section 325(i)(1)(B) of the Energy Policy and Conservation Act,” reads section 322 of the bill.

Maybe not a complete reversal of the ill-advised law, but a good first step.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/15/congress-offers-gl...

Allow consumers and the market to decide as it should be.



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Obamination Care

got the money though!

NOSHEEPLE

bigmikedude's picture

LOL

And that bill was probably negated and over-ridden somewhere in the 1500 pages of this 1.1 Trillion dollar funding bill they just blindly passed that "nobody read."

http://www.dailypaul.com/310297/who-read-1582-page-11t-spend...

It doesn't matter if they

It doesn't matter if they enforce it or not.

The factories are shut down. The capital equipment scrapped.

The old light bulb factories didn't make any sense to shut down and move so long as the bulbs were on the market. Automated ages ago and made for pennies here in the USA the cost to move production to China would never be recouped. So what's the next best way? Ban the product to force people into higher margin products.

Nobody is going to build a new factory even if there is no enforcement, because the risk of enforcement is too high. Nobody is going to import massive numbers of bulbs for big box stores. Same reason. Buying from some guy on ebay saying he stockpiled the bulbs? nobody cares.

The supplies in the chain will probably last a couple years. 100W bulbs are still on the shelves by me. But eventually they'll be gone.

The goals have been achieved. Enforcement is irrelevant now.

GE has a history of doing

anything it can do to get an edge in competition and that includes making what its competitors do illegal.

Since there's still something illegal, I'd worry about GE setting up its competitors to continue in the trade of the bulbs more openly than they would if there were funding, then having its government lackeys drop the hammer on them retroactively. Or the GE can have its lawyers sue in its very evil, money-draining form of lawsuits.

Defend Liberty!

Has anyone noticed...

Has anyone noticed the small print on the packaging of LED light bulbs?

I don't have one where I am now, so I can't quote exactly, but here is the essence of what you need to know:

This bulb may be used subject to the following conditions:
1) use of this bulb will not cause any disturbance to other electronic equipment, and 2) no measures may be taken to disrupt the reception of interference.

Sounds to me like we are being set up in yet a nother new way for the government to spy on us through all our light bulbs!!!

On one package, I read something to the effect that the radio frequencies emitted are safe.

Check it out. Read the labels.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

That's the standard FCC disclaimer

it's on virtually every product that could be categorized with any non-DC-only power source. If you can't find it and suspect something applies, take it apart and you'll find the warning inside.

Here's a link
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/compliance/EMC-PCTV801e.pdf

Thanks, tamckissick,

I guess I should have done more homework, first, but I figured that to save time I would put my concerns out there for others more knowledgeable to comment on or inform me.

I'm going to look up Part 15 in the FCC rules to get it staight from the mouth of the beast.

Thanks again!

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

"Maybe not a complete reversal of the ill-advised law,,,

...but a good first step." Yeah, the same strategy seems to have worked well with laws concerning our borders and immigration.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I just bought a 24-pack of 60W Incandescent tonight for $7.00

at Tractor Supply Co. That's $.30 each.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/60W-Sylvania-Incandescent-Light-Bulb-24-Pack-/00/s/MjM3WDUwMA==/z/sKoAAOxyaRZR3GRq/$(KGrHqEOKpwFHcVK2kc5BR3GRqQNMw~~60_35.JPG
http://mrwilliamsburg.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tractor-supply.jpg

I Use To Work For Sylvania In 1979

Use To be a great company!

Now it's a Chinese import

Now it's a Chinese import company

There is no ban...

There is no ban on incandescent bulbs. If you want them you can buy them here.

http://www.newcandescent.com/store/customer/

The loop hole in the law allows the sale of "rough service" American made incandescent bulbs of any wattage from 25 to 300 watt bulbs. A rough service bulb has a heavy duty filament that is vibration resistant. Other than that it is no different than the bulbs we normally used to buy. There is no ban on incandescent bulbs !!!!

RickStone

There is a difference

Those bulbs cost $2.88 per while normal bulbs cost $0.40

My point was not ...

My point was not about the price or the longevity of the bulbs. My point was that it is simply NOT true that there is a ban on incandescent bulbs. They are still being manufactured and sold in the US at an inflated price and anyone can buy them.

THERE IS NO BAN ON INCANDESCENT BULBS IN THE UNITED STATES.

The reason that stores do not carry them is because they can make a higher profit margin on the $8 bulbs. They are scamming you into believing that you have to buy the more expensive bulb because it is the law. I repeat,

THERE IS NO BAN ON INCANDESCENT BULBS IN THE UNITED STATES.

It is also true there is no limit on gullible people that will buy a more expensive bulb and claim that they do it because it is the law. People are lazy and refuse to do their own research and believe what the government says is true.

RickStone

Yes we all know it was bill

Yes we all know it was bill cleverly written by mandating energy efficiency that the incandescent bulbs made in the USA at the time of the law couldn't achieve. It's just like saying CAFE didn't bad the giant passenger cars of the mid-early 1970s.

But the law did bring about the dismantling of the capital equipment to make those light bulbs. After the law a discovery was made that could have, with just some additions to the production lines, made the bulbs compliant or closer to it. Too late. The die was cast. They are gone. And that's was the point. Nobody is going to make the level of investment to start from scratch now.

It's never the letter of what something does, but what it effectively does.

Yes we all know it was bill

Yes we all know it was bill cleverly written by mandating energy efficiency that the incandescent bulbs made in the USA at the time of the law couldn't achieve. It's just like saying CAFE didn't bad the giant passenger cars of the mid-early 1970s.

But the law did bring about the dismantling of the capital equipment to make those light bulbs. After the law a discovery was made that could have, with just some additions to the production lines, made the bulbs compliant or closer to it. Too late. The die was cast. They are gone. And that's was the point. Nobody is going to make the level of investment to start from scratch now.

It's never the letter of what something does, but what it effectively does.

Ok, I stand corrected...

Ok, I stand corrected, my statement and point are true. I'm glad we got that over with.

If there is enough of a market, which will increase after people are told the truth, new light bulb businesses will start up and fill the need for choice.

RickStone

10,000 hours

that's a difference

I don't understand

how people can read with those new bulbs. They put out a greenish light that makes it harder to read. I have stockpiled on the 60's, 40's, and three way bulbs because I will go blind if I have to read by those new bulbs. Furthermore, if you are a renter are you supposed to pay for all of the light bulbs in the rental? If I have to pay $5 or more for a light bulb, I will take it with me when I move. Also, light bulbs give off a lot of heat which, if you live in a cold climate, can be used to keep your pipes from freezing and actually contribute to heating your home. I think the whole idea is another one of those liberal Democrat "brilliant" ways of controlling people's lives, right up there with the low-flush toilet. Can we give these people something else to think about, please.

Maybe that is the point.

You are not supposed to be able to read because if you can't read it, you won't know what's in it. Also, with global warming your pipes won't freeze. We've tried giving them things to think about like the sound money, free markets, lower taxes, and a limited constitutional government but they keep coming back to controlling our minds, our lives, and the pot we piss in.

Liberal Democrat? I blame everyone who toes the

'sustainable development' line. It's the freakin' UN Agenda 21 crap. 'Sustainable' is a dirty word in my book.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Sustainment...

I think sustainable is the only way to move forward but it should be done through innovation and education not government force.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

I had a dream once,

that the light bulb fascist would awaken some of the people in this nation who believe themselves to be free. In what normal world, would sane human beings believe they were truly free, when the government is telling you what kind of light bulb you must use in your home. As usual, I woke up and my dream was just that.

This is

good news, as far as I am concerned. The place I live in is rather old and has been converted into apartments. The wiring has been updated--SOMEWHAT! I go through a lot of light bulbs.

For one thing, I refuse to purchase light bulbs with mercury in them, and for another thing, I do not want to spend the extra money for LED lights, which I believe would still 'blow' more often than normal due to the wiring here.

Eventually, when I no longer live here or no longer live where the wiring isn't top-notch, then I will seriously consider the LEDs...

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LED lighting isnt that

LED lighting isnt that expensive and I dont get where people get this idea from.
If you go cheap, you can get them for $5 and most are $25 or under. Not only do they last alot longer, but they use on average something close to 10% of the energy, which means over the lifetime of the light, you are saving 90% on energy costs.
Out of curiosity, I calculated energy costs over a 50k hour lifetime of an LED and basically you would save, depending on energy costs and how many times incandescent bulbs had to be replaced, a couple hundred $$.
One other thing, if your bulbs are blowing due to wiring, you may wanna have that checked because it sounds like a fire hazard.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Of course, I think

it's a fire hazard! Sometimes I can't sleep because of it. H-E-double hockey sticks, the agencies that do inspections here (another way to fleece people--the landlords have to pay for these annual inspections--$50 each) even know that one of the outlets in the kitchen is NOT grounded. Nothing gets done about it or other issues concerning this place.

I don't profess to be an 'electricity' expert, but again, my thinking is that no matter what type of bulb I use, it will still 'blow' faster than normal...hence why I will NOT at this time pay the extra money for LEDs...

Eventually, I will move and all will be well. :)

O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

The unseen

Did you factor-in the increased cost of heating the home in winter?

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That savings is canceled out

That savings is canceled out by the savings in the summer.

Here in Texas

We even have hot winters so it would be doubly good for us.