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Ron Paul 2016 - Independent Party

Hello, Everyone.

***This Thread Is For The ONLY RON PAUL Crowd***

There is ONE LAST CHANCE here. Ron Paul, if he so desires, can run for President again, and this time, if he runs as an INDEPENDENT with say someone like Judge Napolitano as a running mate, would be IMPOSSIBLE to beat, no matter how many dirty tricks.

I am sick of politics and politicians, but if Ron Paul said he would, I would certainly get involved to help. I feel very sad about the future of The United States. And The World.

Independent Party, with the best and brightest of the grassroots, all the way to the VERY TOP. 100% Grassroots. NO HIGH-PAID "Experts". We have Political Process Experts.

I wish Ron Paul would say: "YES, I WILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT in 2016" and I hope he does so soon. No late minute" surprises. It takes a lot of time and money to contribute to a Grassroots Presidential Campaign.

If this is going to happen, and I sure hope it does happen, we need to know soon.

I WOULD LIKE THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO HELP IF RON PAUL DECIDES TO RUN IN 2016 TO USE THIS THREAD TO SHARE IDEAS.

This is not for "debates". This is for The ONLY RON PAUL CROWD to share ideas, and I will begin with the first one:

THE SUPER-BROCHURES WERE PERFECT. With a game plan and an early start, THAT ALONE is The Ultimate Advertisement for the money. A 2016 Updated Version to EVERY Registered Voter = Only a couple of million dollars.

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION - INDEPENDENT 2016 car bumper stickers alone will make people question their current mindset. And that is where everything begins.

Then there is the question of Legal Issues and Campaign Rules and all the rest of it that some of you here may be able to help explain.

Serious replies only, please.

Warmest regards;

W.S.

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The Neo-Cons Don't Like This (((Laughs)))

The Neo-Cons Don't Like This (((Laughs))).

Especially after today that The Republican Party Fully Unmasked.

Those "minus" votes make me smile.

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION: Independent + Democrat Outreach. NOW.

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Not going to happen

regardless of what you might think. Liberty burns in the heart of many of us on this forum but the vast majority of people in this country do not know what true liberty is. Even many who think they do have zero clue about the true nature of liberty. With the current voting system and election rules and regulations it is next to impossible to elect an independent candidate nationally. Ron will not run even if we beg him to do so.

This Is Not A Poll.

This Is Not A Poll.

This is for people who have ideas and want to share them.

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***NEW *** Just In From Ron Paul Networks:

***NEW *** Just In From Ron Paul Networks:

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/in-new-interview-mitt-...

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i like it

i dont expect to see it
but
i like it.

I think he...

...might run if Rand decided to just stick to the Senate this go-around; and I would definitely support him if so. I just don't see any chance of him going head-to-head with Rand.

THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

Rand Paul stays in The Senate.

Now that he is in The Republican Party he uses his "clout" to get his father The Republican Nomination instead of ENDORSING HIS OPPONENTS.

Actions speak louder than words.

However that unfortunately won't happen.

The Republican Leadership HATES Ron Paul. They have proven it.

Rand Paul is a carrot for them to entice Ron Paul Supporters to continue to give The Republican Party a chance.

Don't be surprised that they use Rand Paul as a temporary "front runner" and at the last minute replace him with whom they really want.

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Will You Do What Ron Paul Asks?

I believe that Rand Paul will run in the primary for POTUS in 2016, and I believe that Ron Paul will endorse him to all of us and ask us to get behind his son. If you believe in Ron Paul as I do, will you do what he asks? If Rand gets the nomination, Ron Paul will campaign with him when asked and will endorse him for President and ask all of us to get behind him again. Will you do what he asks? If Rand does not get the nomination, Ron Paul will endorse who he thinks is for Liberty and ask us to get behind that candidate. Will you do what he asks? Simple questions, there should be simple answers, but in the end, you have to decide for yourself who you will be behind.

I Do Not Support The G.O.P.

I Do Not Support The G.O.P.

I supported Ron Paul despite him being in The Republican Party.

That was hard to stomach but I did it for Ron Paul.

Would I do it for ANYBODY ELSE?

No. Period.

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I am with wisdom on this one

Both parties,repub & dem,have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt,that they will not tolerate the peoples will & they will under no circumstances,let liberty prevail.After what we have seen in recent elections & caucuses,EVERYTHING coming out of any political figure from either of the main parties is just twisted lies,slithering off a forked tongue.

The thing we all need to be aware of,is that they are very aware of how fed up we are with the status quo.I would not put it past them to introduce a new candidate as a "liberty minded" candidate,spewing everything we want to hear....only to be another establishment mole in the system,to take more rights away from us.With the damage done to liberty,by the obama administration,we can NOT withstand another administration with like minded principles.We MUST prevail in 2016,or our only resort to conserve freedom & the american way of life,will be a violent revolution.

No "Violent Revolution". THE TRUTH IS ALL YOU NEED.

No "Violent Revolution". THE TRUTH IS ALL YOU NEED.

All that was needed at the REPUBLICAN CONVENTION were Decibel Counters.

It is UNBELIEVABLE that votes, or motions are accepted or rejected by tens of thousands of people screaming "Yey" or "Ney" with some guy on a stage deciding which group was louder. That is what DECIBEL METERS are for.

In The United States of America in the 21st. Century! Unbelievable.

Here: The Future Decided By Shouting? http://youtu.be/FkvOdyG9d7Y

All that was needed to settle THE TRUTH was this:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/decibel-meter

I love how LOUD Ron Paul Supporters were.

I guess we are used to FILLING STADIUMS.

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I think Ron Paul is happy not

I think Ron Paul is happy not needing to go on the campaign trail. It takes alot of energy to do so and I am sure he is also happy not to be bound by law in what he says like that more recent email mentioned.
Ron Paul has alot of energy for his age, but he has earned a rest.

The thing I am curious about is what will the hardcore Ron Paul people do once 2016 rolls past with him being in office. Are they going to just give up? Come on, we need to look past a single man and adapt to what is happening.
You know, I have to wonder what Ron Paul thinks about some of these people who worship him.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Ron Paul Does Not Need To Go On A Campaign Trail.

Ron Paul Does Not Need To Go On A Campaign Trail.

He already has all of us. And this is 2014.

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as much as I would love to see it..

I don't see Ron Paul running in 2016.With a good running mate,you are right,he would be unbeatable.That said,this plan is not totally out of the question.Dr Paul will most likely take a sideline roll,HOWEVER,this plan can work if you have the right candidates,being very actively supported by Dr Paul.Say for example,Andrew Napolitano & Jesse Ventura.With Dr Paul's endorsement,they would win,without even showing up.
The population is so fed up with "business as usual" in DC,that if we can get the right people in the race as independants,I have no doubt,they will get 60% or more of the votes.But for this plan to really take off & have the best shot,Dr Paul will have to endorse & actively support the candidates.

This Is About Having Systems In Place Just In Case.

This Is About Having Systems In Place Just In Case.

Let's say Ron Paul does decide to run and announces it one year from now. That leaves people with only one year to work with before the election. Let's say Andrew Napolitano wants to and does not have the massive network Ron Paul has: This provides for that with all of 2014 for networking.

I know there are people who agree with me on this issue, and it is to them that I forward these ideas.

What anyone else things does not matter to me.

To those who think like I think I suggested they create their own local De-Centralized Ron Paul 2016 networks, because clearly The Daily Paul is no longer a place for Ron Paul. Almost. Surprisingly we are still a good 50% here.

This is The Daily Republican. They know they CAN'T WIN another election without Ron Paul Supporters. That is why they are here in disguise. That does not work with me. http://youtu.be/FkvOdyG9d7Y

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION

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I agree with you,somewhat

I agree with your reasoning.But Dr Paul is what...77 yrs old now.He'll be just shy of 80 in 2016.It's his turn to relax.We owe the Dr a great deal.But I believe the best way to repay him,is to select a candidate & running mate that would fit the standards that he has set forth to us.My first choice would be Andrew Napolitano for pres & Jesse Ventura for VP.

As far as what you say about the repub infiltrating DP....I agree 100%!!!They(along with the dems)are well known for their ability to infiltrate & take over a group,persuading said group to turn 180* from their initial agenda.We just have to stick to our guns & not let go of the original purpose of the DP & the liberty movement.That is the complete restoration of the constitution....to restore the nation,and freedom,to the people!!!

.:)

:)

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"The only person causing this is Rand Paul."

This is what I get from you, WS, from your comments below.

You're mad at Rand, and holding a grudge but all it does is hurt yourself. It is good for you to bring it out. I bet a lot of people here feel let down and angry with Rand. There is sadness that should be mourned properly, and then one moves on.

Do you really think Ron is going to run in 2016?

You'll have to deal with the root of the problem, and it is bigger than Rand Paul. It is not "out there." It is in here --> Inside of you. Really, the only person that can solve that is you.

Let go of the lady.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

I am "mad" at Rand Paul? I never even mention him.

I am "mad" at Rand Paul? I never even mention him.

Other people do. For and against. I don't. I never supported him, but he did not cause The Ron Paul Movement the kind of damage that the Republican Party did and what the RNC did to Dr. Ron Paul, so it is a party I cannot support. That's all.

I have ALWAYS been a very INDEPENDENT minded person. I have never been a "mainstream" person.

I supported Ron Paul. He chose The Republican Party as a platform so I had no choice but support him regardless. That unfortunately turned some people off: Because those people did not like the Republican Party and were some of the hardest to convince. I cannot begin to count how many times I had to explain to people: "But he is not really a Republican as you understand a Republican. He is PRO-PEACE".

Your assessment is completely wrong.

I support Dr. Ron Paul. I have since 2007.

Still do and if by some miracle he were to run for President, I will gladly support him again.

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You never even mention Rand Paul?

I just copied this from your comment below:

sadly, everyone is missing the point. the only one pushing us away is rand paul. Now I am forced to vote for someone outside the gop. It is Rand that is pushing us away no one else.

Not only in that comment, but in a bunch of the comments down there.

I'm just trying to figure out what is going on here with this thread, and with you.

Ron Paul 2016 is unrealistic. As I said below, it is a pipe dream. As a friend, I don't want to see you waste time. You've only got one life. And I don't want to see you acting like an internet pied piper, leading people down this road into No Where land.

So I get from the comments that this is anger displacement. You're mad at Rand ("the only one pushing us away is rand paul," to quote you), and so you turn back to a strategy that worked for you in the past - that is, supporting Ron Paul.

That was good, and that was fun, and it gave you a feeling of purpose. That is what I'm getting out of this after reading and thinking about this. So let's think some more.

I have ALWAYS been a very INDEPENDENT minded person. I have never been a "mainstream" person.

Me too. So we share that in common.

I supported Ron Paul. He chose The Republican Party as a platform so I had no choice but support him regardless.

I supported Ron Paul, too. I supported him so much that I made this:

But this is where I disagree with you:

He chose The Republican Party as a platform so I had no choice but support him regardless.

Why do you feel like you had no choice? If you're an independent person, like you said above, then you always have a choice. Why would you let another man voluntarily take away your choice?

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Michael Nystrom: Get Your Quotes STRAIGHT,

Mr. Michael Nystrom:

Please get your quotes straight.

I did not write that. If you read below:

Speciallyblend on Sat, 01/18/2014 - 23:27. Permalink

sadly, everyone is missing the point. the only one pushing us away is rand paul. Now I am forced to vote for someone outside the gop. It is Rand that is pushing us away no one else.

This is not new I and many others warned rand he was pandering us away. Rand is the only one to blame.

This was a topic 6 months ago but the rand fluffers were to busy on their knees to hear it loud and clear.

rand fluffers they don't even deserve to be called trolls.

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THERE.

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i'd support this before I

i'd support this before I ever spend a dime or time on rands bs.

Ron Paul 2016

Ron didn't even want to be

Ron didn't even want to be president the last time. He never attacked Mitt Romney, the front runner. It was about building a movement rather than winning an election. It's fine if you want to write Ron Paul in for the rest of your life but it's not going to affect anything in the game of politics..

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But is it fine?

Is it fine to just let them do that?

I just have to wonder. Is it fine to let someone go on like that? Don't they deserve even a stern talking to before you go, if they are a friend?

Friend, what are you doing? You're chasing a mirage. It is a mirage, man! Snap out of it. (slap)

You got yourself stuck in a moment, and you can't get out of it.


http://youtu.be/Xqrn2q3WCS8

Wake up man.

- - D O N ' T . S A Y . T H A T . L A T E R . W I L L . B E . B E T T E R - -

- - L I V E . Y O U R . N O W - -

I'm not afraid
Of anything in this world
There's nothing you can throw at me
That I haven't already heard

I'm just tryin' to find
A decent melody
A song that I can sing
In my own company

I never thought you were a fool
But darling, look at you
You gotta stand up straight, carry your own weight
'Cause tears are going nowhere, baby

You've got to get yourself together
You've got stuck in a moment
And now you can't get out of it

Don't say that later will be better
Now you're stuck in a moment
And you can't get out of it

I will not forsake
The colors that you bring
The nights you filled with fireworks
They, they left you with nothing

I am still enchanted
By the light you brought to me
I listen through your ears
Through your eyes I can see

You are such a fool
To worry like you do
I know it's tough and you can never get enough
Of what you don't really need now, my, oh my

You've got to get yourself together
You've got stuck in a moment
And you can't get out of it

Oh love, look at you now
You've got yourself stuck in a moment
And you can't get out of it

I was unconscious, half asleep
The water is warm 'til you discover how deep
I wasn't jumping, for me it was a fall
It's a long way down to nothing at all

You've got to get yourself together
You've got stuck in a moment
And you can't get out of it

Don't say that later will be better
Now you're stuck in a moment
And you can't get out of it

And if the night runs over
And if the day won't last
And if your way should falter
Along on this stony pass

And if, and if the night runs over
And if the day won't last
And if your way should falter
Along this stony pass

It's just a moment
This time will pass

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

It's fine if you understand it.

You and your website promote some issues and tactics that I don't agree with. There's really not much I can do about it just as there's really not much I can do about those that will vote Ron for the rest of their lives.

I can voice my dissent and do but I can't control these things and neither can you. That's why I say it's fine.

I'm more interested in the liberty movement than politics. Hopefully some day we will increase our numbers enough so that I will take more interest in the game of politics.

you should be giving rand

you should be giving rand paul the stern talking. It is rand paul that is driving away folks. ask yourself why a 8 year gop delegate would not support rand paul. ask rand paul!

Ron Paul 2016

because

they're an 8 year GOP delegate.

easy.

Rand Paul running will be a symptom of a decaying GOP, it's the only way he'd ever win because the NewGOP would flood into the party (of course this is libertarians, paulites, reformed democrats & people who eat Kentucky Fried Chicken.)

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I don't want Ron Paul to run in 2016

Why would anyone? He already had three chances. One, two, three strikes your out. Sorry, you don't get a fourth at bat.

Who is anyone kidding here? Are there Romney supporters somewhere out in internet land also agitating for Mitt Romney 2016? If so, that makes me sick to my stomach!

If you believe this thread, you're living in an alternate reality. The reason I know is that I used to live in the same alternate reality. But I escaped! And you can, too. I'm here to help you. To help you stop wasting your time and others.

Unless, you have an ulterior motive. I'm not saying you are. But you expect Ron Paul to win as president in 2016, with Judge Nap as the vice president. I find this vision amusing, but please, go on. And then what?

And then what happens. Are they issued, like, magic wands?

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Three strikes? Im sorry,

Three strikes?

Im sorry, didnt know politics was baseball.

Where is the law that says someone can only run three times?

Are you ok Michael? Youve said some things on this thread that I really didnt expect coming from you.