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What would the Daily Paul say to me If I said I wanted to serve my country?

Im thinking of joining the Air Force or Navy.

Any skeptics, words of advice, encouragement?

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There are better ways

Currently the U.S. military does not serve the interests of the American people.

At the end of the day you gotta make the decision but do some research and ask yourself if our military is really "providing for the common defense" anymore.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Let Feminists

Serve. The Military is looking for a few good women, boom.

They already do

The best feminists are the ones who don't wear a feminist button, but rather act as individuals who know they can do what a man does, and sometimes better.. WAY better.



It would be great for you to serve your country.

You know, however, that the military does not serve the country. The military serves the government. So it is not clear what joining the air force or the navy has to do with serving your country. If you do join the air force or the navy it will make it much more difficult for you to serve your country. Joining the air force or the navy will put you in a subservient position to the absolutely worst and most deluded element in society, the element which believes that by carrying out certain rituals they can tell others to execute immoral acts without consequences either for themselves or the ones who carry out those acts. This is pure delusion. There are consequences for doing evil.

How do you define "serving your country"?

Your country and the government running your country have divergent goals. Your country wants to improve the quality of life of people in the US and to some degree the world. The country's government seems to be pursuing its own goals of power, control and world domination for itself and its close allies (corporations and others). The military gets it marching orders from the latter.
Not to say the actions of the military don't benefit both sides some of the time, but I would feel like I was putting my moral compass in the hands of those I could not trust. At the same time, having as many good people in the military as possible could certainly help the people and Constitution in the clutches. That wouldn't be enough reason for myself, though.

Don't get on that ship!


[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

LOL! Exactly right.

THIS is what government "service" really means. They DO serve the public, after all.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

US Military Service = You serve the devil, NOT the country

How can you serve your country when your boss, whom you promise to obey, is the definition of violent evil?

Gerald Mangold

My only concern

would be will you be doing what you are being promised you will do?
Once they got you - they got you. Talk to some recent veterans - get the inside scoop.

Alternatively, why not consider a trade - a two year Associate's Degree in a discipline that will garner you employment. I have read quite extensively about the serious lack of individuals trained in the trades - it is an international problem.

(The lie that a 4 year degree is the way to go is part of the problem. We are only now seeing the huge amount of 4 year degree graduates who can not find a job and have huge loans to pay. Be careful.)

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

I would say there is a difference

in serving your country and serving government. If you join the military you are serving your government.

Joining the military is easy. Getting a real job is a little harder. Contrary to popular belief you do not learn to be a better worker, person, organizer or leader just because you join the military. But you will learn to shut up and do as you are told which is what we fight against.

You've been here almost two years and this subject has been brought up numerous times. Man up and make your decision and don't try to lay it at our feet.

You may be better off joining the National Guard.

But stand firm on your principles, regardless. You may need to be upfront about any convictions concerning unjust wars, Bill of Rights violations and other issues.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Does serving your country

mean trespassing on private property in other countries, and killing the goat herders that own the property when they try and defend themselves and get you to leave, so that you can mindlessly follow the agenda of a handful of Rothschild type power elite's who could care less about you or countries, but are the ones who drew all these cartoon lines on the map, and are actually funding the terrorists because threats are profitable, and meanwhile stealing a big chunk of my hard earned non-government business to pay for it all? Is that what you mean, when you say "serving?"

Well that's what it means, whether you realize it or not, so no, I personally don't need anyone serving me like that. Watch "All Wars Are Bankers Wars" by Michael Rivero:


Are you sure you want their

Are you sure you want their opinion? I had a similar thread because my son was thinking about the AF and my husband used to be in the Marine Corp. they called us murderers and told me I didn't deserve children.

College paid for, traveling

College paid for, traveling to countries I wouldn't be able to afford, life long friends who have my back no matter what, strong management skills and other qualities.

I was never career potential but my 5 years were worth it.

As far as the others saying no, I bet most of them didn't join.

In order to be a leader, you must first learn to follow.

I'll comment. I'm the wife of

I'll comment. I'm the wife of a veteran but as far as your "I bet most of them didn't join" remark, why does that matter? The post is titled, "What would Daily Paul say to me If I said I wanted to serve my country?" We are the people of this country who he is trying to say he wants to serve, and we are telling him that that is NOT "serving" us.

Sometimes I get sick of the military people who think the opinions of citizens don't matter if we ourselves weren't in the military. Your paychecks are paid by us and you think our opinion doesn't matter? Eff off. You guys sure can easily flip out of that "serving the citizens" crap as soon as we say we don't want your "service"!

So the free housing, food,

So the free housing, food, healthcare, travel, and comradery between you and others didn't benefit you at all huh?

If you actually take a minute to comprehend what I wrote, I never claimed to have served anyone or anything.

We didn't get free housing or

We didn't get free housing or food, I used my own insurance for any healthcare needs I had while he was in the "service" and the only time he ever needed healthcare was when the Army put him in the hospital, things he still deals with to this day and is struggling to get healthcare for it as a Vet. But even so, none of those things are "free". People in the military work for those things and a lot of the time the price is their life.
I worked for the RP campaign while he was in the "service" and that didn't grant me too many friends among the military wives, so no comradery there! =\

Lol down votes with no

Lol down votes with no comment.

Further evidence that most of these people are not leaders.

I never said that going into military was the right thing for everyone. Look at manning, at least he did the right thing when he was in, just didn't do it the right way.

If you really want to serve your country

Then run for office. We need people here fighting the enemy within rather than running around and bombing wedding parties. If we can't get our act together on our home soil we have no business wandering the world telling people how to act. If the SHTF at home you'll be more than welcome to defend the US of A without enlisting.

Serving your country is the act of a patriot....

Sometimes serving your country can pit you against it's government.

The cost of serving can at times be high and seem unrewarding, while being the right and honorable thing to do.... ask Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and the honorable Dr Ronald Ernest Paul.

98% of Americans will wake up today and enjoy freedom while only 2% will wake up to defend it

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

I think it's great

The military is not for everyone; however, just so happens some of the finest people you'll meet will have served. All branches have their good points, so talk to recruiters and see who has the best deal for you.. know what you want to get out of your service. Military knows this is not a volunteer job. It's really important to have goals and find ways to materialize or improve your goals.


To serve with the Constitution in your heart and action like Snowden and Manning is what true service to your Country is.
There are many serving now that are on our side.



4 office (serve)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Republic is in the hands of Mad Men....

why assist the traitors who have destroyed the Republic and brought (and will bring more) despair to it's citizens? Think good my young friend.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

Stop, Look, and Listen...

Five years ago, a mother told me her son was going to re-enlist. I strongly advise not to... he did not... She credits his still being alive with that advice she insinuated into his decision not to.... I'll make it easy.... http://youtu.be/UrOZllbNarw

Who do you want to shoot?

Who is so threatening to us that you want to shoot them? The Russians? That's so 1980. The Chinese? They're our best suppliers. The A-rabs? We buy their oil. Al Qaeda? Be sure it's just the ones we don't like and not the ones we're funding. The Taliban? They just want their country back. Yemenese? You'll have to find it on the map first.

Maybe you could shoot some Mexicans, but let them pick our next crop first please. There's always the British, French, Germans, and Italians. After all, we used to hate them before we liked them before we hated them before we liked them...

I've got it! Shoot Canadians! I don't have a good reason except that they're...well...smug. But don't hurt their breweries 'cause that would make me sad.

Aw, shucks, why don't you just shoot Americans? There's a whole bunch of us who are hostile toward Washington DC. We're right here. You could shoot us in the morning and sleep in your own bed that night. There's people in Washington who think that is a pretty good idea.

Lots of people to shoot. Good luck with your decision.

Can't speak for "The Daily Paul"...

But in my humble opinion, the best way to serve your country is make lots of money.

(and not so the government can take it, but because honestly making money requires you to serve your fellow man)

Truer words have never been spoken

saliberty has hit the nail on the head.

Joining the service requires you to give up Constitutional rights and do what Lt. Calley tells you.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ


serving, serf... think about it.
let me guess... you're unemployed...
try harder.. don't give up..
than (their) MONEY or SECURITY.

joining the usa military

give you a chance to die
in the name of
a miserable hideous lie.