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Permaculture, Liberty, and the "Freedom Movement"

In my humble opinion, Permaculture practices are a giant step in the direction towards human freedom and away from tyranny, the police state, and cultural degradation. Permaculture is not just about gardening more efficiently, but about living in a cultural system that is more efficient in making people happier while "starving the beast," as they say, the beast being centralized tyrannical-police state-corporate-consumerist-culture. Some may not be interested in such a radical change in lifestyle, but for those who are, permaculture is a cultural life raft peacefully gliding away from a sinking ship that has a powerful undertow, taking most sub-cultures down with it (what I feel is the "corporatizing" of sub-culture and art as well as the "co-opting" of political and spiritual movements).

I posted an update last summer which began my journey into the agricultural practice of Permaculture. While I did create two more updates on that particular garden, my tendency to underwhelm myself caused me to just shut up and keep learning until I actually had something to say. I've now reached a point in my understanding of the practice of permaculture that I can try to explain what I feel is its connection with what we understand to be "The Freedom Movement."

The following is a short summary of permaculture philosophy that I use to explain it to people I work with. Also included is information about a food forest system because I feel that establishing food forests is the literal meaning of "planting seeds of liberty." Much of this information can be found in the book Gaia's Garden by Toby Hemenway

Permaculture: What it is and why it works:

"Permaculture has much in common with organic gardening but it is a different approach. Natural ecosystems are the model, so plants are placed in mutually beneficial communities instead of long rows and monoculture fields. Permaculture uses a set of principals and practices to design sustainable gardens, farms, and settlements. Instead of relying on backbreaking work, fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides, the permaculture gardener uses methods that build healthy soil, smother weeds, and promote plant life while recycling waste products from the garden. Permaculture combines sustainable agriculture, landscape design, and ecology. It means permanent agriculture. Permaculture systems, once established, require much less maintenance than conventional farming and provide high yields while improving the fertility and value of the land."

Food Forest:

"In ecological terms, the process of succession is the evolution of a landscape over decades from bare ground through fast-growing pioneer species to a mature ecosystem. When not interrupted by fire or other disaster, the end result of succession nearly everywhere is a forest.

The typical yard or garden, with its perfect regimen of irrigation and fertilizer, is trying hard to become a forest. Only the tractor, lawn mower, and pruning shears prevent the woods from taking over. Permaculture does not fight this trend toward woodland. Instead, permaculture works with nature to fashion a multi-storied forest garden, a food and habitat- producing landscape that acts like a natural woodland.

A simple forest garden contains a top layer of trees, a middle level of shrubs, and a ground layer of herbs, vegetables and flowers. Each plant is chosen for the roles it will play, whether for food, wildlife habitat, herbal medicine, insect attraction, soil building, or any other number of functions.

In a forest garden, the life spans of many of the plants are measured not in one year but in decades or more. The forest garden will mature into a healthy ecosystem that can provide food for multiple generations."

The decentralization of food via permaculture and food forests can open the door to tangible cultural change at the individual and local level. The economic benefits are astounding. With many families, both parents must work full time just to provide basic food and shelter for their family. Permaculture practices provide food and shelter (as well as a supportive and cooperative community) much cheaper and easier so there is time to actually educate ones own children while enjoying the time spent together. An honest look into permaculture practices will expose many more economic and social benefits.

I find that permaculture practices fit my intuition of what human freedom in the post-modern age is all about: away from dependence on a harmful system while supporting local individuals and communities developing their own decentralized systems. This isn't some kind of luddite reform, it is what Terence Mckenna called an Archaic Revival, the revival of traditional human cultural systems (otherwise known as tribes). The benefits of tribal social systems is an opinion of mine and can be more thoroughly explained in another post if needed. For now I just wanted to get this out there- on the record, under the inspection of those who may read it.

To learn more about permaculture practices, visit "The DailyPaul of Permaculture:" Permies.com

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how do organic gardeners who have filled up . . .

every available gardening space in front and back yards with: fruit trees, berry bushes and annuals that produce food--

using mulch heavily and not any equipment (heavy, no roto-tilling, only some spading, but not much)--

who do NOT get good yields--

apply this?

We live in a far northern area, and there are successful organic gardeners and farmers in our area--

our space is limited, and our sun is only moderate in some places--

I get very frustrated. We DO work hard, and our yields are low--

there's very little grass left, and we don't focus on it; it is used as a place to work and put a table for eating on and a place over which clothes can be hung out to dry--

beyond that, the grass is of no value, but if we get rid of all of it, we won't have a place to step/stand to hang clothes or put a picnic table, which we do use.

Or a place to split wood in the fall; grass does serve a purpose; otherwise we would be splitting wood on our garden beds--

or in mud--

I ask honestly--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I would check out

I would check out Permies.com. You can probably find out what other people in your zone are doing.

Do you use animals to convert

Do you use animals to convert the plants into food for you?

You may have to rethink some things:

thank you, Terminally Chill and . . . js290--

I'll check these things out--

we live in a town; no chickens allowed, unless we want to break the law--

we may consider doing that, though--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Joel Salatin on Chickens

we live in a town; no chickens allowed, unless we want to break the law--

Good opportunity for civil disobedience. And, maybe to also influence your neighbors, similar to the RP revolution. I've given up on influencing people's political persuasion. I think food is much more tangible.

I bet your Outlaw Omlets will

I bet your Outlaw Omlets will make a fine breakfast!

South American angle on everything ;)

Costa Rica is a tiny nation that has made one great decision. They turned themselves into the global eco paradise. Something like 1/3 of the nation is protected wild areas, environmental protections are a priority, it's an amazing eco-tourist destination. There's also TONS AND TONS of permaculture, organic produce, basically a hippy mecca. Expats from all over the world making a new home there and getting into various ventures.

The history of Costa Rica is kind of fortunate compared to it's neighbors. Native Costa Ricans are pretty laid back, causal and it's a pretty safe nation. Costa Rica is solidly in the top third of nations to look at in Latin America.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Would you like to sponsor our

Would you like to sponsor our trip?

I'd certainly like to hear more about it.

It might even coincide with ours.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

My fictitious trip has a good chance of occurring

after another growing season or two.

time frame

what's that? Like 8 months with your guys' modern techniques?

That does seem a bit long to be proactive. We're all a bit late to some of these games because we over-spent on trying to save America and now what we have to do is secure our own.

That's the way I feel.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Thanks for the post,

am looking into permaculture myself.

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am looking into permaculture myself.

FYI: http://www.permaculturevoices.com/about/

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Sitting Bull had no use for our [agricultural based] laws... They really were truly the freest people in the world.

Permaculture 23 times in the interesting article

Wikipedia has a very helpful and encompassing explanation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Bookmarked for later..

just smoked a 6.5 lb pork centerloin, and my belly is speaking in tongues. Or was it speaking to my tongue? Anyway, gotta stuff my face. Look forward to reading it more in depth, and on a full belly.

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Thanks for sharing... and hope all is well in the garden.

Also, a good system to integrate to food forests are fungi. Paul Stamets has a permaculture model with fungi in his gourmet and medicinal mushroom book.

Permaculture is going to happen with libertarians pioneering the systems that work the best... what still awaits are the mediums for exchanges to flourish P2P internet tech for both non-profit and for profit food forestry.

What we need is a facebook style website strictly for permaculturalists that can pitch in time to build projects in the area and when the project is finished we reap the benefits in proportion .. all negotiable on the website... I think that would be a sweet site... meet up.com is similar, but it is too general, Permaculture needs it's own site.

Peace and Good Harvest!!

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

Many belated thanks to you, Permaculture

It was due to your many informative posts here on DP 'back in the day' that introduced me to Permaculture! I hope to take a course this spring/summer to get certified and am also interested in getting an Herbalist certification.

Thank you! ;) Self-sustainability is the Globalists worst nightmare!

P.S. Here is another good resource:
The Best of Permaculture Media

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Food sovereignty = self

Food sovereignty = self sovereignty

Self-sustainability is the Globalists worst nightmare!

The food is all under lock and key

... soon to be Monsanto's key (chemtrails?). Can that change by planting food bearing plants and trees all over the place? Would a person choose to hunt and gather if they were given the choice? Would every day then be like a news year eve party or family bar-b-q? I intend to have my New Year's Eve party bar-b-q and eat it too.

Have you read any books by Daniel Quinn? My thoughts on food decentralization are based on his ideas. "Ishmael" is his best known work, "Beyond Civilization" is a thorough quick read.

... soon to be Monsanto's key

... soon to be Monsanto's key (chemtrails?).

Pesticide and fertilizer runoff are real runoff chemtrails:

Can that change by planting food bearing plants and trees all over the place?

I don't know. But, we should probably be thinking about the real consequences of our current annual agricultural system.

Would a person choose to hunt and gather if they were given the choice? Would every day then be like a news year eve party or family bar-b-q? I intend to have my New Year's Eve party bar-b-q and eat it too.

"The average hunter-gatherer worked about 500 hours a year... What they did was they set up their own designer hunter-gatherer system that was convenient to harvest. It's like a fast food hunter-gatherer system... True wealth is when we end up in absolute abundance." --Geoff Lawton

Have you read any books by Daniel Quinn? My thoughts on food decentralization are based on his ideas. "Ishmael" is his best known work, "Beyond Civilization" is a thorough quick read.

No, I haven't done a lot of reading. I'll keep an eye out for it. I'm convinced, though, that annual agriculture is antithetical to food decentralization. When politicians refer to "preserving our way of life," I'm not sure if they realize that the basis of "our way of life" is annual agriculture. And, all the political problems that everybody here at DP recognize is likely a direct result of trying to "preserve our way of life."


Can't forget the fungi. They are useful in philosophy and psychology as well if you smell what I'm stepping in.

Permaculture still seems underground but it is spreading through social media just like anything else. WWOOF.com is a pretty cool resource. Youtube is another great tool.

WWOOF.com = domain for sale

Can you repost the url ?

That would be

Thanks !