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Rand Paul Slips to 9% in Recent GOP Presidential Poll; Christie Still Leads

Posted on January 20, 2014 by James Carroll
http://blogs.courier-journal.com/politics/2014/01/20/sen-ran...

WASHINGTON – Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul has slipped to 9 percent and third place in the most recent NBC News/Marist Poll measuring Republican support for potential 2016 candidates.

In December, Paul had the backing of 12 percent of Republicans, putting him in second place behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

Now beseiged by charges that his administration closed lanes of the George Washington Bridge between New Jersey and New York for political reasons, Christie still tops the GOP field of possible White House hopefuls, the poll finds.

Christie has the support of 16 percent of Republicans, followed by Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan at 12 percent, then Paul at 9 percent. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has 8 percent, followed by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 7, Texas Gov. Rick Perry at 6, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 5, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz also at 5, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker at 4, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal at 3. The poll found that 25 percent of Republicans surveyed were undecided.

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This is from January

It looks like his numbers have gone up since then...

At least it ain't

Santorum, yucky. I got to take a shower now.

To my Liberal Trolls:
"Really Don't mind if you sit this one out. Your words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
Ian Anderson 1972

These horse races. Back and

These horse races. Back and forth. They do this for drama. Uh oh, it looks like Quicksilver is edging ahead of Twinkle Toes for the fifth time!

Talk to real people. That's your poll. Youth voters often take over, and the "likely voter" polls never catch on to that fact because they are always polling the old people who have voted for the last 60 years but are about to die. The poll tells you who would have won if today's people were running 10 years ago.

Rand Paul + Undecided = 34%

Rand's 34% is more than twice as big as any competitor in this race!

Rand may be peaking too fast.

Rand's obvious lead is before the Des Moines Register's reporters even get to ask Christie, what is on all Iowonians' mind, the question: Y R U Fat?

Iowa loves Rand. Do this poll in Iowa and the results would probably double up again.

Iowa is pretty smart. They say if you move the bottom counties of Iowa and move them into Missouri you would double the IQ of both states.

Rand Paul + Ted Cruz should not equal 14%

They represent tea party support.

Poll is skewed somehow.

Rand should still focus on cross-party wooing.

The biggest X factor in the RNC race will be "Can he beat Hillary?"

Rand must get a yes on that question or he will not win regardless of his positioning once the primaries begin.

"Bridgegate Takes Toll On Christie's 2016 Hopes,

Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Hillary Clinton Is Big Winner As NJ Gov Crashes" That's the title of the press release issued today by Quinnipiac's Polling Institute. In their poll, Rand Paul's ahead of Christie. http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-ins...

I don't understand all this focus on the bridge-traffic scandal. It doesn't have anything to do with his character if he wasn't aware of it. Whereas the accusation of the Hoboken mayor does - that Hurricane Sandy funds were tied to her giving favor to some Rockefeller-related development company.

And I guess having the least economically stable state of all 50 states isn't racy enough for the average voter (or poll creator). "Chris Christie's New Jersey Is Least Solvent State" While the article did explain that financial problems were years in the making (i.e., preceded him), it's nothing for a presidential candidate to brag about - particularly given the sorry situation, still. Has he helped, done nothing to change things, or made them worse? http://news.investors.com/011614-686566-christie-new-jersey-...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Chrisitie is Manufactured

First of all, there is no way that he can possibly win the general election election against any Democrat. Impossible. Obama won by 20% in NJ. And NJ has a solid Democratic legislature. That is the mindset of the voting majority in NJ.

But maybe he can win the nomination? Maybe if they pull a Dole/McCain/Romney on the public? I doubt it.

If he cannot win NJ in the general, his value is not that much better than any other mainstream candidate who is also able to lose NJ.

Silently, Republicans in NJ grumble about his lack of coat tails. He has not been able to get any new Republicans elected in NJ. And he cannot claim much success in the State, even though a lot of it is not his fault - it is a solid Democratic legislature.

I cannot see Republicans nominating a guy who refused to be part of the ObamaCare lawsuit that all the other Republican Governor's supported. I cannot see the Republicans nominating a Governor that opted for the Federal exchanges when most States opted out. These are issues that would prevent the Republican base from working for him or supporting him in the primary or general election.

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What I really want to ask

What I really want to ask Christie, is, that yes, you've really helped the New Jersey government budget deficit. Yes, government has shrunk since you've been there.

But, unemployment has been terrible. While the rest of the country has gone from double digit unemployment to ~7%m, New Jersey is still at the 9% it was a couple of years ago.

As a governor, what is your job? To solve the budget deficit, or bring jobs to your state?

It is a serious question.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

One very important statement that needs to be made from...

the 9% that the skewed poll suggest.

If the GOP nominates Christie or any other Neo-con, Pro-Patriot Act, Pro-NDAA, crony capitalist, etc. Republican, 9% or more, mostly more, will stay home and allow Hillary Clinton to be the next POTUS.

We may lose but we will see to it that the GOP loses as well. Our power is to take power from those who try to control us. Our revolution will come faster if we do not allow a Republican as mentioned above to take office.

Yes, Hillary is all those things that I mentioned above so it makes no difference whether she wins or someone like Christie.

When you're short-stacked, you have to push all your chips in the middle. We have enough chips to make them fold and we need to let them know we are going all-in before they raise.

Amnesty

Rand Paul is actually good on the "refugee" racket/welfare state client trafficking, but it will be over pretty quick for him if he doesn't come out full bore against Amnesty--which Republicans are likely to push shortly.

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Rand Paul is Drafting

You do not want to be in the lead this early.
You become the prime target.
Look what happened to Christie.
Ryan will be next.
Then Rubio.
Then Jeb.
Luckily the loony liberal media does not see Rand as a serious contender. Of course if they were wise they would...and they would champion effective policy as well.
They think if he get's the nod it's a lock for Hillary.
Let them blow their time and energy between defending and Obozo slamming the most centrist republican candidate.
Once Rand gets in front of a national audience a few more times the truth of what he is saying will shine through and the opponent will have a very hard time.

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Their is

no way Christie is above Rand. Ughhh.. I hate these fake ass polls and the fake ass GOP. They are going to do the same crap all over again. Prop up another loser so the Democrats win.

Chris Christie = COMPLETE MAJOR LOSER!!!!

That's that

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

I really do

hate polls and don't trust them one iota! That being said, the following poll has Rand and Paul Ryan tied for first, with Christie in 3rd:

http://rare.us/story/rand-paul-paul-ryan-top-new-poll-christ...

So which poll should 'we' believe? And the OP's poll was taken on 385 people? Really? Out of a country of millions? There were 1933 participants in the poll I linked to--still not enough, imo!

I also hate it when those running have similar names. I often wonder if that is done on purpose. Rand Paul and Paul Ryan are too similar, imo...

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BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

fake poll

.

They will make up the polling as they go along.

They have complete control of the process, from the polling, to the primaries, the debates and the electronic voting machines.

This is a multi-trillion dollar enterprise based on controlling the population by scripting a believable and entertaining narrative (think Herman Cain). If they cannot distract and persuade the population with propaganda, they will use rule changing, vote rigging, and assassination (think JFK). They will not let go of the reins willingly.

Fortunately I think there are many more people in the world who seek the truth about how the world is run than there are of those who would try to distort it. The other side seems to have a lot of money though.

I agree

That's why its NOT about VOTING for somebody....

Liberty IS AN INDIVIDUAL thing and that's what's been lost. Liberty is NOT the job of a politician, it's the job of all of us who actually give a rats ass about it!!!

Patrick Henry Said this:

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.

Patrick Henry

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

I don't buy it

There's no way Paul Ryan is polling higher than Rand. What would possibly explain these results? Nothing.

Possibly some in the GOP are circling the wagons for Christie, but this poll just seems like a fluke at best, even with that being discounted.

The polls

The polls seem rigged just as much as the VOTE .

This is like asking who

This is like asking who people think will win the Super Bowl in 2 years.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Many polls

are created to set up a talking points agenda for the mind control operations that are running 24/7. I put little faith in polls.

Remember when the polls told us that Rooti Gooliani was tops in the Presidential polls? We all know how that worked out. Polls schmolls.

Huh?

You know, after what happened, I wonder why anyone at all is still putting any faith or energy into the electoral process considering its complete irrelevance and the simple fact that it is no longer under our control. I should think that identifying the areas where change can and should be made would be more important like on the local level. Presidents themselves have stated that they are not in control. So what difference does it make?

Boycott the entire federal level government entirely. Don't pay it, don't use it. Fuck'em. They have already demonstrated their incompetence at every level other than making us more stupid and more distracted. But hey the spit still dripping from our faces from the last election still does sting quite a bit. It makes me want to not give a damn for those fucking criminals on the hill. So I don't, other than to stop their forward momentum and to make asses of them as much as possible. Oh and to draw any and all attention away from them, because that's how they die. No attention, no following, no campaign, no point. Nothing but downhill from there.

Not the presidential poll, but a weight watchers poll!

Christie just gained 16 more POUNDS not %!

When did common sense become a super power? –Patrick F. Holman

Rand Paul, or Not-at-All!

I know I speak for many registered republicans when I say that IF RAND PAUL is NOT the GOP Nominee 2016, I will NOT BE VOTING for a republican in the general election. Decision made. Most likely would look to 3rd party, forever, or give up on the ballot box and look to other boxes...

We are trying to take back our country, and the GOP, in the name of constitutional, conservative values. Liberty, individualism, economic freedom and prosperity are at stake.

This is crucial.
You cannot have just a little socialism. It is all or nothing.
You have socialism/tyranny, or you have individual liberty.
We are on the brink of no longer being the 'Land of the Free', let alone the 'Home of the Brave'.

If the high-up cronies in the GOP are insistent on mirroring the democratic party, and endorsing big-government authoritarian-collectivist policies... Then say good-bye to the likes of myself, and any chance of ever being a relevant party again in the future.

This message goes for the average 'R' voter, especially. Let it be known, you will have a repeat of Romney, McCain, etc., if you keep ignoring the true constitutional conservatives.

Liberty is the ideological heart of the conservative GOP party. Turn your backs on that and you are just democrats by another name.

You've been warned.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

There is no way Fox News,

There is no way Fox News, MSNBC, CNN (et al) will allow a member of the Paul family to be the Republican presidential nominee.

No need to worry about polls at this point

All I do know is if the republicans put up another crap candidate (christie) like they have the last 2 times then I simply will not be voting for them. Simple as that.

at any point the polls will be liar tools to

validate the crimes of the two party dictatorship.

sovereign

Most moran Republicans

will vote for the person they believe will defeat the Dems, not the best candidate, nor what's best for our country. If Rand would take on his father's platform, explain his stance in an easily understood manner, which his father was too intellectual to do, he could trounce all the other candidates. However, I don't think Rand has the balls to stand against the establishment and tell the public the majority in both parties operate for the corporatate world, and are bought off by donors and lobbyists. He would rather play the 'go along to get along' game, and slightly bend the GOP gang agenda, which is a dead loser for him.

Name recognition is everything!

At this point most registered Republicans do not have a clue what the positions of potential candidates are. The names they hear on the news, talk, and entertainment shows are what many base their opinions on. Not facts. Not research. Not record. Whomever has the most press is who most will have an opinion on, however informed that opinion may be.

Christie is in the news. Christie wins poll.

Paul is less so. Paul comes in second.

At this point most polls will reflect the amount of press an individual has, not their positions on anything.

Just my opinion.

You're right...

it's just pure name recognition. Any time Cruz's name is in the news, all of a sudden he's in the lead in the polls. It's pure meaningless to do polls now unless you really like polls.