Great stuff Daily Paul.....enjoy!
He is a money guy and his value of money over the environment is not something I respect. I got about 3/4 of the way through this and just couldn't listen anymore.
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although I really think of it as chilling with the boys than an interview. I agree with Peter on 90% of issues but environment I cannot get fully to his side.
I'm for shutting down the EPA, but I'm for shutting them down because they aren't doing their job. Many local rivers and lakes are the most polluted they have been in a couple decades. With all of the oils spills, chemical spills, chemicals in drinking water so bad you can light it on fire, Erin Brockovich anyone? etc I'd say the EPA is a failure.
That being said if all of this stuff is going on with the EPA imagine what it would be like without one. Look at China. Hell look at our own history. New York and LA was Beijing at one time. Some of our rivers were polluted so bad they caught on fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River. States weren't stepping up to the plate to enforce anything, the private sector sure as hell wasn't.
i know ive commented a lot now on this but dang that should be front page, but you definitely have to watch the whole thing
LOL peter says "i know look i can smell the pot when i walk in here right" joe says "how dare you". That was hilarious. I guess that solves it peter didnt smoke up with joe before the show.
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wow thanks joe i'm totally going to have to hit up the goat soup and whiskey on put-in-bay. Oh and sorry joe you sound like a moron with your epa rant
did peter take part in Joe's normal podcast ritual off getting really high before he does a podcast?
You don't smell it if you smoke it.
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listening to Joe but most of this interview was painfull.Joe is not as smart as I thought he was.He has alot more to learn.
If you listened to the end he admitted his purposeful devils advocate position. I think it's a brilliant approach and lets face it, if the arguments stand on fact than let Peter make those points.
It was a great interview
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C'mon, it doesn't take much to see the line of questioning that Rogan is implementing and where he genuinely believes that for instance, the environment is so sacred the government (to which he admits in some cases he doesn't trust) needs to "stop BP from polluting".
So Joe Rogan, why didn't the holy government stop BP the first time with all the regulation and all the other companies all the times before?
He completely discounts the fact that the government IS regulating as we speak and disasters are a normal occurrence. Schiff reiterates that these very regulations created the situation for the disaster to happen and be exacerbated.
Sorry but Rogan doesn't get it and Schiff sometimes doesn't see the worldview completely that he needs to the person he is debating to point these basic concepts out.
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The debate was on the floor and being discussed. To an audience of over a million strong I would say its a positive...
Just a few days ago he had a Brian Denning on his Podcast. This guy listed Joe Rogan as one of the top ten celebs that are mis guiding people with false theories. The topic aside, the fact that he welcomes a healthy debate should not be poo pooed.
But lets not be deceived that his comment about playing devil's advocate was made in light of his thoughts on environmental controls. It was clear from the tone of the discussion what he was open-minded about and what he absolutely was standing his ground on.
Even I disagreed with Oeter at times in this, but after a more thorough debate better ideas and clarity came to light.
Was a good 3 hours nonetheless.
As long as we can all think these thing through for ourselves and are given the opportunity to do express it it's ok.
For that, I enjoy his podcast.
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Joe is a damn good actor.I didn't realize he was playing devils advocate.I am still listening and havn't got to the end yet.
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I hate my apple Iphone screen keyboard. It does that crap to me all the time.
I like the idea, but it would severely confuse Boobus.
joe is almost there. peter took him to school.
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Joe thanks Peter at the end for being a sport with his devil's advocate position.
but hes a damn good interviewer
But I hear the points made by Rogan all the time. Is the only answer to kill all fish in lake Michigan?
Of course not. Thanks for the link dex!
this really was just a fantastic podcast... this is what an average conversation with a relatively smart person would be like. Smart people like Joe see dangers and question.. there is nothing wrong with that. We must be able to answer those good questions
Rogan is all over the place trying to trap Schiff....he even said so at one point. I kept waiting for Schiff to give up debating and ask for some of what Joe was smoking (since he referenced the pot smell in the studio)
lol Joe was pissed.
Joe Rogan correctly recognizes and asks Peter Schiff about the backwards logic in his arguments that banks should fail so that they change their internal quality controls but it would be really bad if oil companies failed because of their poor internal quality controls.
I am not on board with Peter Schiff. He speaks out both sides of his mouth.
The first was describing the housing crash... the second, the environment, just like safety is cured by the market. Definitely speaking about two different things... he says why would BP want to do an oil spill, the regulations kept them in deep water drilling (much like the FED encouraged banks)... please attack with correct information. BP could go out of business... just like the banks. It is linear thinking... it is a straight line... it is perfectly straight
The response to Rogan is that oil prices must go up and Americans need to stop bitching about rising gas prices because it is impossible for people to enjoy cheap oil if they make it impossible to produce cheap oil.
Want to remove all liability caps and put BP out of business ... fine ... risk goes up, the cost to insure risk goes up, and that cost of doing business is passed off to consumers.
Don't want any shallow wells right off the coast ... fine ... cost to drill deeper is more expensive with more risk which are also costs passed off to consumers.
Don't want any wells in Alaska where oil is easily accessible ... fine ... cost to obtain oil in other parts of the world and transport it further costs more which is passed off to consumers.
When someone is arguing a life boat scenario the can't have your cake and eat it too card is a good one to play.
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