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R.C. Sproul on dangers of Statism

At the following conference near Seattle on June 6 2014, R.C. Sproul will be speaking on the dangers of statism and how Christians should respond to it: http://www.ligonier.org/events/2014-west-coast-conference/sc...?

R.C. Sproul on Statism: "... About thirty years ago, I shared a taxi cab in St. Louis with Francis Schaeffer. I had known Dr. Schaeffer for many years, and he had been instrumental in helping us begin our ministry in Ligonier, Pennsylvania, in 1971. Since our time together in St. Louis was during the twilight of Schaeffer’s career, I posed this question to him: “Dr. Schaeffer, what is your biggest concern for the future of the church in America?” Without hesitation, Dr. Schaeffer turned to me and spoke one word: “Statism.” Schaeffer’s biggest concern at that point in his life was that the citizens of the United States were beginning to invest their country with supreme authority, such that the free nation of America would become one that would be dominated by a philosophy of the supremacy of the state. ..."

Read more here: http://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/statism/

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Great stuff!

Here is the upload from RC Sproul JR

I have seen the enemy and it is US....


In a post-Christian world, people who have rejected God often make an idol of the state, and the state often encourages such dependence. The twentieth century witnessed the rise of a particularly despotic form of statism in countries from China to Russia to Germany. What dangers do we face when the state attempts to replace God? In this session, Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. discusses the dangers of statism and the way Christians should respond when they find themselves in a nation where statism has gained ascendancy.

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Sproul on Church and State

This is classic Sproul ... waiting for the upload from Sproul Jr. at the 2014 conference.


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Back in the 40's, Eleanor Roosevelt attacked radio preacher

Walter Maier.

Maier became a chief spokesman for the vigorous reassertion of classic Christianity. A superb orator, with the educational background to support his positions, Maier possessed the ability to communicate traditional Christianity in an untraditional manner, (as one magazine writer quipped, “the soapbox delivery of a Harvard script”). His version of traditional Christianity was pure Protestant orthodoxy based on Scripture and mediated through the Lutheran confessional traditions. In 1948, when Eleanor Roosevelt labeled him as a "fanatic fundamentalist," he replied with a sermon entitled, "You, Too, Should be a Fundamentalist!" (Roosevelt later retracted her charge and apologized to W.A.M.)


Francis Schaeffer warned us over 30 years ago..

this is a classic from Dr. Schaeffer:


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More Schaeffer

"If there is no absolute by which to judge society, society is absolute." - Francis Schaeffer

Bump. Because June 6th is coming up.

Bump. Because June 6th is coming up.

Thanks for this, Love R. C. Sproul

He is sound theologically, thoughtful and reasonable.


(See my comment, To quote one of my favorite theologians)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15


The post is accurate, but a little misleading. The article is from R.C. Sproul, but the talk at the conference is from another R.C. Sproul, R.C. Sproul Jr. It seems they hold similar views on Statism though.

R.C Junior is the Speaker, He is not the only Ligoinier Speaker

who has spoken on this, either: This is from Dr. Robert Godfrey


"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15


Interesting. He thinks Babylon in the book of revelation is referring to statism.

You are correct this is RC Sproul Jr. not RC Sr.

RC Sr. is probably my favorite contemporary theologian. Unfortunately he rarely comments on "the State". I'm guessing it's because Ligonier is a 501c(3) organization and is prohibited from doing so. If this is true it would be a shame because the State historically has been one of the greatest enemies to the people of God. RC Jr. to his credit has been willing to take this issue to task and I am grateful to him for that.

"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition
every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little
point which the world and the devil are at that moment
attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I
may be professing Christ.
Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is
proved, and to be steady on all the battlefield besides
is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point."

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nice quote

nice quote from Luther.

I thought this was from RC Sr.:

Yes! - RC SR wrote that in TABLETALK (Sep. 2008)

And he's right on the money. I just wish he would speak more frequently about this.

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