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Kiev, Ukraine, 01/22/2014


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Let your country's president grab too much power

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Alex Gnatko: You have no idea what is going on here.

Most of the country, most of the WORLD, didn't know about the uses and abuses of NSA until Edward Snowden spilled the beans. Now people describe the organizations as "un-effing-believable".

Well there are other inappropriately named US government organization that are ALSO un-effing-believable, they include the (horribly named) NED or National Endowment for Democracy and the USAID. Both of these organizations have followed the same blueprint around the world to change regimes at the will of the US.

First, find a country where the US wants to change regimes, and Ukraine obviously qualifies. Next look for opposition groups. Seek them out, train them pay them encourage them with promises of US help, agitate them and do everything you can to make them grow.

Then demonize the leader in the US controlled media in the US and in the rest of the world.

As the protest start thwart every effort to contain them. Do everything you can to promote violence and unrest. FORCE the country to eventually call in its police and then its military to maintain any sort of order.

Supply protesters with weapons, using the logic that it is only fair as the police and military have weapons. Wait for people to die in clashes. Its inevitable.

THEN the US and/or NATO moves in with its own military with the excuse that "__________ (fill in country President's name) IS KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE!"

Bomb country's military bases, government building, even send cruise missiles after preteen grandchildren of leader (like they did in Libya). Domestic military of course will use tanks and artillery to fight back. A lot of people from both sides with die, tens and maybe hundreds of thousands, it really doesn't matter to the US.

Finally when cities are completely bombed out and much of country has been destroyed, install leader of US and NATO's choosing and declare a victory.

This blueprint has been followed or attempted (as in Syria) in country after country around the globe. See former Yugoslavia and Arab Spring.

THAT is what is happening here.

You are drinking the government intended Kool Aid.

Alex, your mistake is in

Alex, your mistake is in assuming that the opposition leaders, like Klitschko and Tyahnybok, desire what is best for Ukraine, if that is not the case then they just have a really perverse understanding of economics and think that in order to achieve prosperity, all that is required is to sign an association agreement with the EU. Most of the people protesting, at least on Independence Square, I think are genuine but are being misled due to a general disenchantment with the government and economic conditions. The ones waging the violence are total sock puppets though -- many of whom are hardcore, right-wing fascists, who'd be the last people you'd want in your government. Not to mention what about the 20 million or so other citizens living in Eastern Ukraine who want nothing to do with the bureaucratic elites in Europe and who have sent their own protesters out to demonstrate against US involvement in their country's sovereign affairs.

On the other hand, Klitschko and Tyahnybok are, on record, being funded by Western NGOs, just like the Orange Revolution was 10 years ago -- if this is news to you go read what Ron Paul and Justin Raimondo had to say about it back in '04 on antiwar.com. Tell me, where was this world outrage when Yushchenko was selling his country into debt to the IMF, had a 4% approval rating, and economic conditions were no better than they are now -- why weren't there calls then to sign the association agreement? But when all of a sudden, Putin is looking to defend Russia, both economically and otherwise; by establishing his own trading bloc, attempting to find a peaceful solution to the crisis in Syria, and get the focus off of war with Iran... well that is just the most atrocious thing ever. Let's hurry it up and get Ukraine (a slavic nation of common history and culture with Russia) under the sphere of influence of NATO, so that we can put our "defense-shield" closer to the their border.

It saddens me that people are falling for this sham. And I would be the first person to acknowledge that Ukraine has tremendous problems, that Yanukovich is no different than any other corrupt politician, and that the country needs major reforms to get it back to at least where Russia stands economically at the moment -- an effective national debt of 0 with government surpluses to boot -- but what it doesn't need is this foreign-sponsored intervention into its affairs.

This is a pro-NWO, pro-EU, anti-Russian uprising

with a little help from the CIA, NED, IRI and USAID. The Eastern part of Ukraine is largely against EU and the Western part is Pro EU.

Some of the anti-Ukrainian government opposition groups are Neo-Nazis such as extreme far-right Svoboda party- Oleh Tyahnybok is a leader seen here meeting with Sen. McCain (aka 'Interventionists Energizer Bunny')
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2013/...

Images of McCain and some of the opposition protestors
http://imgur.com/a/1ghhi/

Ukrainian Protesters Encircle US Embassy: ‘Yankees Go Home!’
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/01/23/ukrainian-protesters-e...
While the pro-EU Soros rent-a-mobs continue to stage their pseudo upheavals in Kiev, a new faction of intelligent Ukrainian protesters has sprung up this week.

They see right through the covert western operation: “The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now.”

From yesterday afternoon, this new group have begun to encircle the US Embassy in Kiev. Their demand to the US: ‘Stop meddling in our affairs, and stop sponsoring unrest mobs in our country’.

Following John McCain’s recent trip to Kiev practicing his new brand of
international racketeering by threatening the Ukraine if they did not join the EU, it seems that the real Ukrainians have finally figured out that the pro-EU mobs have been staged by a conclave of western NGO’s and ‘democracy foundations’ – the very same nest of hornets who brought on the fabled ‘Arab Spring’ to the Middle East three years ago.
The main goal for Washington and the City of London is to separate Kiev from Moscow, and thus weaken Russia’s hand in Eurasia.

For EU central bankers, the prospect of raping and privatising the Urkraine economy- is also a big incentive.

It looks like the old tricks are no longer working. At last, the ‘colour revolution’ jig may finally be up…

see related post:
http://www.dailypaul.com/310873/ukrainian-protesters-encircl...

What you just did - you just

What you just did - you just copied Putin's propaganda word by word.

Whoever downvoted the comment...

... watches too much RT.

Grab some Google Translate and read a very good interview with Margarita Simonyan (the head of RT).

http://tvrain.ru/articles/margarita_simonjan_ja_ne_voruju_de...

In short, she said that RT works this way:

1) They make very good shows about the USA to let Americans think they are one of the few credible, propaganda-free sources of information about internal U.S. affards (NWO, banking cartels, elections, Wikileaks, Ron Paul, etc.)

2) Once they have the trust of the American viewers, they feed them with official Russian propaganda about affairs that generally don't concern ordinary American people: Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, etc.

Ron Paul Institute for Peace, Prosperity and Freedom

The article 'Sen. McCain, Interventionism's ‘Energizer Bunny’ was written by
RPI Executive Director Daniel McAdam-

Daniel served as the foreign affairs, civil liberties, and defense policy advisor to U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, MD (R-Texas) from 2001 until Dr. Paul’s retirement at the end of 2012. From 1993-1999 he worked as a journalist based in Budapest, Hungary, and traveled through the former communist bloc as a human rights monitor and election observer.

Here is the RPI article which was also published on RT:
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2013/...

Well

I have no doubt that McCain is a hard-core interventionist.

Wherever he sees some burining tires - he rushes there to try to intervene somehow.

But that does not mean that all the riots are 100% due to McCain and the likes.

Whoever thinks that all those revolutions have no other basis but U.S. interventionsm - is believing Putin's propaganda.

Imagine if Obama declares himself a dictator and calls all good Americans who dare to fight his roit police `Russian agents` or `Political extremists sponsored by Russian interventionism`. Actually, that's exactly what he will do, I guess.

Where there's smoke, there's JohnnyMac?

No, I am showing the Western backed involvement

in the protests such as was done in Libya and Syria. Next, when there has been enough blood, we will see a call for U.S. 'Humanitarian Intervention' which is why McCain has produced a bill to change the War Powers Act so that Congress can be by-passed based on 'Humanitarian' necessity to intervene.

I am neither pro Putin, pro NWO, nor pro EU ..but I am against U.S. involvement stirring the pot, so to speak! I am aware there are legitimate problems and complaints with the current Ukrainian Gov't.. as there has been for many years.

Surely there is some

Surely there is some involvement (anyway, both US and Russia are members of the UN Security Concil - it's basically their job to at least be concerned about security anywhere in the world).

But please don't think that all those riots are due ONLY to U.S. involvement. People are REALLY mad as hell at Yanukovich.

I have been to Ukraine some 25 times in the last ten years.

My friends in Kiev and Poltava are against Yanukovich. But my friends in Donetsk and Lugansk are just as adamantly in FAVOR of Yanukovich. In fact there are huge rallies going on in Donetsk in favor of Yanulovich.

There MAY be slight majority of people overall around the country who oppose him, but with Obama's approval ratings at an all time low, there is probably a majority of American's who can't stand Obama too. Its natural when a leader hasn't done well and that is what elections are for.

This is definitely the work of foreign agitators.

No, I do not think they are due to ONLY

to U.S. involvement at all. The U.S. is taking advantage of the unrest and stirring the pot- for it's own purposes and THAT is what I disagree with!

At any rate it is horrible to see the violence, people hurt due to the protests AND the Government reaction.

But you do realize that you

But you do realize that you sound like you are dismissing the protests, don't you?

No, I believe I have been clear

in my comments that I do not 'dismiss' the protests. From an American non-interventionist foreign policy point of view ..I am showing that the involvement of the U.S. in the protests follow an apparent pattern of stirring the shit and then calling for U.S. meddling/intervention in an already troubled/divided country for it's own purposes, which has not worked out too well in Libya, Syria, Iraq and Sudan.

Please take a look

Please take a look at your "Ukrainian Protesters Encircle US Embassy" post, I added a comment there.

It's about what Putin called "colored revolutions" (I guess it's he who invented the term - anyway, here in Russia this term is all over the place)

So, your opinion is that

So, your opinion is that President Yanukovich & President Putin are anti-NWO?

I'm afraid that you have a wrong definition of NWO.

A snapshot of our future perhaps?

God help us all.

But about myself I will not boast, except as it concerns my weaknesses (2 Cor 12:5). Let the unbelievers seek praise from each other; I wish that which is from God alone.

Hail Mary

This is what happens when you club innocent and pregnant women during a peaceful protest.
They come back weeks later with a vengeance.
I guess bic lighters, gasoline, and handkerchiefs will be on the PTB list of items to outlaw.
As long as these items and rubber tires are around, protesters everywhere can make a loud statement.
This is the end result of a rigged election.
All they're asking for is new leadership at the top, seems like they won't be resting until they get it too.
It's freezing cold out there and they don't seem to mind.
Loved the Hail Mary pass at the 2:24 mark.
An interpretation of what's going on at the street level would had been better than the wanna be rapper.
Prayers for you guys.