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Things are getting real...

A retired Army general and Fox News analyst told a Tea Party group that he would lead a military coup against the U.S. government, if only reluctantly.

Paul Vallely, a retired major general and senior military analyst for the conservative news channel, told the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party Patriots during a Dec. 3 speech that other retired military personnel and veterans groups had contacted him about the possibility.

“I had a call this afternoon from Idaho, the gentleman said, ‘If I give you 250,000 Marines to go to Washington, will you lead them?’” Vallely said as the group laughed and gasped. “I said, ‘Yes, I will, I’ll surround the White House and I’ll surround the Capitol building, but it’s going to take physical presence to do things.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/27/fox-news-analyst-tells...



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This would lead to a civil war

Do you really think with all the drones and tanks and the militarized police in most cities, the brainwashing of the country to give up their liberties for safety, the constant surveillance of our communications that this would even be possible? I do not. I do not think for a second that those in power would give up without bloodshed. I do not for a second think our own military would disobey a direct order to fire upon us in such an event, orders that could be given by cell phone from within the White house.

PattyFromTexas

well we know for definite one

well we know for definite one person whose probably being monitored, i cant see the nsa not monitoring folks who potentially could put them out of work, can you?

I feel sorry for them, because i am assuming that this new technology in the last years will be used against them so effectively, that it would be liks a child pulling off a legs of an insect......to me at least and sorry for the wird image

Fascist Revolution...

This guy has a book coming out in a few months and likely wants to say something provocative for marketing.

Either way, his "revolution" would be one Dick Cheney supports. Reminiscent of the fascist Business Plot that Smedley Butler exposed.

His book is called Endgame, which is the same name of a very dangerous company Endgame Systems which violates all sorts of hacking laws, sells zero day exploits and essentially gives the highest corporate or government bidder the ability to compromise anyone's security-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame,_Inc.

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it is going to take physical presence

and possibly physical force.

This is whats needed. I'm not sure I am worried about what replaces what we have now. A better approach might be to take care of specific individuals over a short time frame and Im not talking about the guy in charge cause he's just a dem or gop puppet.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

My mistake

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There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Issue

'Overthrow' the government, but replace it with what?

Unfortunately I've heard less convincing ideas about a refined Constitution/policy (ie. abolishing taxation and mandates, optimal currency standards etc) than the relative stability we enjoy now.

For my $.02, I prefer a volitional system where public domain is conducted through municipal Trusts.

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Vallely will lead

a coup against the US government, albeit reluctantly, but has a devil-worshipping past, making some doubt his veracity?

Ret. Col. Riley, who is NOT, so he says, connected to Vallely, will lead Operation American Spring, a march on Washington, May 16, 2014?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdA6CGtZWZo

Can either of these guys be trusted? I don't know, but I'm highly suspicious. I plan on attempting to stay up-to-date on their 'activities', though...

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MSM brain washing

This is just another MSM subtle brainwashing trying to convince you that you would need a military to "overthrow" washington... what a joke! Everyone just needs to ignore washington... it doesn't take any military at all. Even with the military backing washington, the entire US military can't even control a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan.. do you think they can control 100 million armed people who no longer worship the religion known as government?

Stop watching MSM and take some time to wake up:

Get real...

We could summarily destroy all of Afghanistan but that would destabilize the heroin and oil industry in the region. We are still there by design.

100 million Americans? Honestly assess the likelihood of that happening. Let's just give the Transformers and He-Man a call while we're at it. Maybe they can help...

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

250,000 men?

All you need is 1.

To my Liberal Trolls:
"Really Don't mind if you sit this one out. Your words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
Ian Anderson 1972

The comments below

referring to "sociopaths" and their penchant for armed action neglect to mention the stark fact that our nation is run by just that type. Look around, we have militarized police forces who murder with impunity and immunity, all to feed the system and to cow the rest of us into submission. Are any of us here under the sad impression that the Courts would ever take a stance against their enforcers and strong arm men? We here, of all citizens, should be acutely aware of how lost and beyond redemption our election system has become. What alternative, other than the complete subservience which we are now practicing, would anyone suggest?

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Newtons third law.

Newtons third law.

Wake me when

that starts happening. There's no such thing as an equal "payback" when sheep are involved, only the slaughter and the false hope that it won't happen to their self.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

I'm not sure how much

I'm not sure how much "payback" will play a role in what's coming.

But once fathers, brother, mothers, and sisters get hurt and frustrated, that frustration will lead to angry protests. Those protests may or may not include violence. I hope the trials and tribulations will be short but I'm not naive.

What is coming will be long, painful, violent, frustrating, and terrible.

My intent was to

substitute the word "reaction" with payback.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Who.is going to lead our

Who.is going to lead our revolution?

Someone with military training who is willing to pull the trigger, or someone in front of A laptop in their PJs complaining online?

ecorob's picture

Why are you worried?

You won't be a part of it. You are who you describe.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You know me so well, I'm sure

You know me so well, I'm sure of it.

Addressing the

Addressing the nsa/FBI/CIA/dhs....

You're right, I won't be.

oh great - another military coup

perhaps the best we can hope for is that these psychopaths kill themselves off

Well, yes that is the ultimate end to the story

If they win their cooperative drive to one world government .. after the dust settles they will turn and eat each other till there is no one left.

This would be the ultimate end of a planet dominated by sociopaths.

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On 22 March 1775, House of Commons, Burke delivered a speech

On 22 March 1775, in the House of Commons, Burke delivered a speech (published in May 1775) on reconciliation with America. Burke appealed for peace as preferable to civil war and reminded the House of America's growing population, its industry and its wealth. He warned against the notion that the Americans would back down in the face of force, as the Americans were descended largely from Englishmen:

...the people of the colonies are descendants of Englishmen.... They are therefore not only devoted to liberty, but to liberty according to English ideas and on English principles. The people are Protestants... a persuasion not only favourable to liberty, but built upon it.... My hold of the colonies is in the close affection which grows from common names, from kindred blood, from similar privileges, and equal protection. These are ties which, though light as air, are as strong as links of iron. Let the colonies always keep the idea of their civil rights associated with your government, —they will cling and grapple to you, and no force under heaven will be of power to tear them from their allegiance. But let it be once understood that your government may be one thing and their privileges another, that these two things may exist without any mutual relation, —the cement is gone, the cohesion is loosened, and everything hastens to decay and dissolution. As long as you have the wisdom to keep the sovereign authority of this country as the sanctuary of liberty, the sacred temple consecrated to our common faith, wherever the chosen race and sons of England worship freedom, they will turn their faces towards you. The more they multiply, the more friends you will have; the more ardently they love liberty, the more perfect will be their obedience. Slavery they can have anywhere. It is a weed that grows in every soil. They may have it from Spain, they may have it from Prussia. But, until you become lost to all feeling of your true interest and your natural dignity, freedom they can have from none but you.

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... Or can America prove Burke WAS RIGHT about Her

... Or can America prove Burke WAS RIGHT about Her,

as early as before Her Birth?

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I've made this appeal a while ago, btw:

I've made this appeal a while ago, btw:

A Declaration to Reinstate the U.S. Constitution, with List of Grievances

http://www.dailypaul.com/274406

I'm starting to think it's still too early, and I'm just daydreaming.

How can America prove me wrong?

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Too early? The thought seems

Too early? The thought seems pretty ridiculous to me. Too late, more likely.

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Too late?

Interesting divergence. Too late?

Too late before what next?

We're cooked already and ready to be eaten?

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

If the goal is to remain

If the goal is to remain free, I was born too late.

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To be free is a state of mind.

To be free is a state of mind.

You're not alone being plundered.

But if you're like me, you're not among those who keep begging for it.

It's just you don't have guns big enough to defend yourself better. And you didn't set it up that way.

Just leave when you can see the last straw pulled, don't look back, and let them burn if they have to.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

ecorob's picture

No, Allison...

the worst idea ever is what we have right now.

Its time for change!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.