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'Dared to sing things as he saw them': Iconic banjo-picking American folk music crooner Pete Seeger dies at age 94


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Pete Seeger sings Forever Young

among adoring youths. Long may his loving legacy live on!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Why honor the death of Pete Seeger? Who was he to you or me?

I recently posted a thread interviewing Arlo Guthrie, where Pete's influence was honored, but Arlo went where even Pete, somewhat, feared to tread. Individual liberty was even clearer in the young man's eye, than that of his saged mentor, imo.


Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Do people even read before they down-vote somethings?

I don't mind, if it brings attention where an up-vote might not, but REALLY? Where's the grief?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Arlo stood on the shoulders that Pete and Woody gave him

I meant no disrespect to the saged mentor that Pete Seeger was to young Arlo, who in many ways was a father to him, when his dad couldn't be there.

Arlo's interview I posted on my thread gives great honor to the man, as does the humorous story in their, "I Can't Help Falling In Love With You" video. The younger man grew independent of even their trusted political plateaus, and sought more Liberty than I believe either dare openly believed possibly, but in a somewhat quieter stance, most times.

I posed the questions in my subject line to provoke thought, not to challenge his many merits. Sorry, someone thought that ought to be down-voted :(

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

thanks for clarifying

your heading...

Glad it gave us more time for appreciation

That's what the questions were meant to allow, even for the potential misunderstanding I figured might happen on this thread. Here's Arlo, family, and friends singing with Pete, a song written by Woody:


For those who might have noticed my earlier scrambled subject line, I'm sorry for my poor attempt at multitasking!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Nice guy. Great singer and writer, worked for what he believed.

In 1936, at the age of 17, Pete Seeger joined the Young Communist League (YCL), then at the height of its popularity and influence. In 1942 he became a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) itself. He eventually "drifted away" (his words) from the Party in the late 1940s and 1950s.[61]

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

"Now we got more money in the

"Now we got more money in the bank, maybe. But you know this whole world still has got problems, and sometimes I think you can solve so many problems yourself; but other problems it takes the whole doggone world. And no matter how much money you got, those bombs can still fall down on your head."


proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.


By far my favorite song of his..

A legend!

I remember waiting to watch him on tv back in the day, only to have the network cancel his appearance that evening. It might have been Les Crane who remarked about the cancelation, "Did they think he was going to start a riot with his banjo?"

Sure glad I kept his autograph all these years! It's gotta be worth something.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

"Guantanamera" Pete Seeger w/ guitar (young man on stage)

Pete Seeger w/ caustic guitar on stage. 3:33 Minutes. Written by Jose Martin, 1895.

José Martí ... José Julián Martí Pérez (January 28, 1853 – May 19, 1895) is a Cuban national hero and an important figure in Latin American literature.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Pete Seeger collections: War Protest; Union Recruit... DailyPaul

Pete Seeger Protest songs over the decades.

Pete Seeger never deviated from his beliefs about world peace, social justice, racial equality, labor rights, environmental conservation, and concern for the less fortunate among us. Although he was pilloried for his support of some of these causes and his brief membership in the U.S. Communist Party, harrassed by HUAC, Joe McCarthy and the FBI and banned for a decade from television, Seeger never wavered from his refusal to testify about his political beliefs and was ultimately vindicated when his conviction for refusal to answer questions on his political beliefs and activities put to him by the House Un-American Activities Committee was over-turned in the courts. Later he was honored... for his lifetime of accomplishments... New York [honored him] for his successful efforts to clean up the Hudson River.

Throughout his life, Seeger used folk songs as a way of promoting the causes in which he believed.. His motto was "Think globally. Act locally." Pete Seeger The Power of Song

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

bump to watch all these great vids later


Don't forget

his group the Weavers who along with Woodie Guthrie pretty much ignited the folk revolution.

Pete Seeger at Farm Aid, 2013

He was a revolutionary

when being a revolutionary wasn't "cool".

One may not agree with some of his solutions to problems, but he maintained his principles and integrity throughout his life.

I'm sure that now he is getting his reward for staying the course.
RIP Pete

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

When Will They Ever Learn? An Interview with Pete Seeger

Pete Seeger (1919-2014): He Changed the World One Song at a Time
January 28, 2014
By John W. Whitehead

“My job is to show folks there’s a lot of good music in this world, and if used right it may help to save the planet.”—Pete Seeger

“The world will be saved by people fighting for their homes. Homes will be saved by people who fight for the world.”—Pete Seeger

In this OldSpeak interview with John Whitehead, Pete Seeger—described by Studs Terkel as “the boy with that touch of hope in the midst of bleakness”—speaks out, and even sings out, about his life’s work and his concerns for America’s future.

John Whitehead: In February 1940, you met Woody Guthrie. How did that change your life?

Pete Seeger: Woody showed me the old folk songs, which I loved so much. They were made up by real people about real things, and he was a live ballad-maker. I was working for Alan Lomax at the time and had always wanted to meet the kind of person who wrote “The Ballad of Jesse James.” And here he was in the flesh. A thoughtful guy making up new songs about real events—that was Woody Guthrie.

JW: You were doing the same thing, weren’t you?

PS: I had not yet started. As a kid, I tried to write poetry occasionally. My father used to tell me stories as a small child. I had an uncle who was a poet, but I didn’t really get into songwriting until I met Woody. And then only hesitantly because I didn’t dream that I would be able to actually write songs. But Woody showed me that it is not as difficult as you think. You find an old tune that you like, and you change it around a little bit—put new words to the old melody. I did that with a song called “C for Conscription.” At that time, I didn’t want to be conscripted into the Army. I took Jimmie Rodgers’ song “It’s T for Texas, T for Tennessee” and I decided “C for Conscription, C for Capitol Hill and so on.

JW: Then you started collecting songs. I seem to recall that the 1947 collection People’s Songs included “We Shall Overcome.” That song became the big ballad and hymn for the Civil Rights Movement.

PS: All I did was add a couple of verses. The song was actually an old gospel song, “I’ll Overcome,” usually sung fast. Then about 100 years ago, Union folks made a Union song out of it—“We Will Overcome.” The original was simply a verse, “I’ll Overcome Some Day.” Lord knows who wrote it. It might have been a slave back in the 19th century. It had other verses like “I’ll be like him, I’ll wear the crown, I’ll be alright.” As a matter of fact, that is the way most gospel singers know the song—fast, “I’ll be alright, I’ll be alright some day...” In 1946, 300 tobacco workers in Charleston, South Carolina were on strike and one of the women, Lucille Simmons, liked to sing this song very slowly. In gospel churches, sometimes you can sing a song extremely slowly, which gives time for the basses and other voices to harmonize. A white woman, Zilphia Horton, who taught at a little labor school in the South, learned the song from the strikers. She taught the song to me, and I printed it and started singing it. But it wasn’t until 1960 that a fellow named Guy Carawan added some interesting rhythm to it. It’s still slow, but it has a very steady, strong beat. In 1960, Carawan taught it to the founding convention of the SNNC (Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee). A month later, it was all around the South and eventually all around the world.

JW: What did you think when people like Martin Luther King started singing the song?

PS: I was very proud to have helped introduce the song. Actually, I think I was the first person that sang it to him in 1957. I was at that little labor school—it was called the Highlander Folk School—in the mountains of Tennessee. Very small little place. They had their 25th anniversary reunion, and Dr. King, Ralph Abernathy and Rosa Parks all drove up from Montgomery, Alabama. It must have been a four or five hour drive. I sang the song, and a friend of mine drove Dr. King to a speaking engagement the following day in Kentucky. She remembers him sitting in the back seat saying “We shall overcome. That song really sticks with you, doesn’t it?” However, it wasn’t until Guy Carawan added the rhythm in 1960 that it really took off.

JW: The song had an amazing impact. In fact, people still sing it today. Then you got into some trouble for your alleged activities with Communists or singing for Communist groups and so on.

PS: My father first got me marching in a May Day parade in 1933, and I found him up to his ears in the Communist movement. He was writing articles for the Daily Worker. When I was 14, I remember asking him, “What are the bad things about Communism? Aren’t there good and bad things about everything in the world? He took all of 10 to15 seconds away from his work and said, “No, it’s all good.” Then he went back to his desk. About 1937, I was in college and people were wondering what to do about Hitler. I was impressed by the fact that Litvinov, the Soviet Representative to the League of Nations, said that “any aggressor should be quarantined”—that is, boycotted. He was talking about Japan, Manchuria, Italy, Ethiopia and Hitler helping Franco take over Spain. So when I was 18, I became a member of the Young Communist League. After the war, I was actually a card-carrying member for about four years. However, I drifted out when I moved up to the country, although I still have friends who are Communists and I still read the Communist newspaper from time to time. Occasionally, there are some very good articles in it. But I also read Fortune magazine and the New York Times. I am a magazineaholic.

JW: So, would you say that you are still a Communist?

PS: Only in the broadest sense of the word. When I was 7, I loved the books of Ernest Thompson Seton. Born in Scotland and raised in Canada, he became a well-known author in the first two or three decades of the 20th century. Seton held up Native American Indians as a role model. In his writings, he said, “Don’t go back to Greece or to the age of chivalry.” He said there were people on this continent who were brave and strong and completely honest. For the Indians, to tell a lie was a terrible crime that could mean being exiled from your tribe. I remember Seton’s book, Rolf in the Woods, where an older Indian teaches a 13-year-old white boy. The Indian said, “You know your books, but I can teach you the book of nature.”

I built myself a teepee and started tracking animals. Seton was my guru. Years later, I found that what I admired was the fact that the Indians shared everything they had. If there was food, everybody in the tribe ate. Since there were no ice boxes, where would you put the food if you shot a deer? If there was hunger, everybody in the tribe was hungry, including the Chief’s wife and children. There was no such thing as one member of the tribe being well-fed and the others being hungry. Anthropologists call this tribal communism. All of us are descended from tribal communists, if you go back enough thousands of years. In a sense, it was a form of Communism. It was Communism for their tribe.

But I would say, John, that the Communists I knew were the bravest, the least selfish people I ever knew. They fought against racism—put it at the top of their agenda. But lest there be misunderstanding, I must explicitly say that I drifted out of the Communist Party around 1950. And after visits to several Communist countries (USSR, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Slovenia, East Germany, Vietnam, China, Cuba), I feel strongly that most “revolutionary” types around the world don’t realize the importance of freedom of the press and the air, a right to peaceably assemble and discuss anything, including the dangers of such discussions...

SteveMT's picture

Seeger gave us hope when there was none.

I'm talking about Vietnam. Pete was one of a kind.


"Now there's one thing I will confess, ...,...

Bring 'em home, bring 'em home,
I'm not really a pacifist, bring 'em home, bring 'em home,
If an army invaded this land of mine, bring 'em home, bring 'em home,
you'd find me off on the firing line, bring 'em home, bring 'em home!"..

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Arlo tells of Pete and he at the fall of the Berlin Wall

And then Pete joins him on stage for this classic Elvis song.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Avant-Garde back in the day.

Avant-Garde back in the day. RIP

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams

Pete at 93...

2012 concert singing Turn, Turn, Turn.... brought TEARS 2 me (sob)
I had to stop it... couldn't take it. oh my.. I'm gettin old...


SteveMT's picture

Seeger: I did write six words.

Seeger's own words, "[in addition to the music] I did write six words."
Those words were:
"I swear it's not too late."
He actually did write one more repeated throughout the song:
"Turn, turn, turn."

Turn, turn, turn, tells us more of the SOTU than Obama did

Song: 'Turn Turn Turn (To Everything There is a Season'
Album: 'Pete Seeger's Greatest Hits' (2002)
Artist/Composer: King Solomon-Ecclesiastes / Pete Seeger
The song is based on verses from the book of Ecclesiastes
in the Bible. Pete Seeger put music to the words in 1959, and
recorded his own version in 1962. The Byrds recorded it in 1965.

Here's a 2002 recording of the song that brought a humble American musician and the greatest, of wisdom, Jewish King, into a colaboration that has stood the tests of time.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass


Bum me out big time.

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to be continued