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My friend Ray the murderer. Let's talk about that.

Time seems to fly for us in activism, in politics, in day to day life and in our struggle. The "wheels of justice" grind exceedingly slow. The facts in this matter are not in dispute:

On a very normal seeming night some years ago, events precipitated that ended up with Kriston and Ray combatting and Kriston lost. He died. And although I'm in some ways a material witness and one of the only OF RECORD, I honestly cannot tell you if Kris died as a result of Ray hitting him or if he died as a result of going over backwards and hitting his head on the pavement or if he could have been saved from this event with prompt and prudent medical care.

A further fact is the state of New Mexico shows little interest in pursuing this pretty dubious case further. And yet a further fact is Kriston's mom won't let it go and probably never will and Gods bless her. Because the fact is there's no win here. We all lost. Oh man we lost bigtime.

Krison Pohl, for those of us fortunate enough to have known him was this amazingly talented kid, a true knack not only for technology but he could multitask between techology, chatting and drawing. His drawings were these happy and blissful dreams. And he was so snappy and conversant and willing to help that we all just loved him. But now I'm gonna share something with you that I have had to hold back for these years. I was ready to take the stand and couldn't compromise testimony or evidence. But now I'm gonna tell you what happened in my view.

Yes, Kris was this sweet and talented kid. Until he got busted for posession of marijuana.

Now for those of you who don't know, some of us "conservative" and "free" states like New Mexico and Arizona have some of the harshest penalties in this nation for drug posession and use. It's an AUTOMATIC FELONY. Without much representation atall and with no resources, they incarcerated this highly sensitive young man.

And what we got back?

Was not Kriston. What we got back was a freaking hyper defensive and violent animal. And he went on the war path and I tell you fact as I know it: at one point Kris baited his parole officer into doing cocaine and alcohol with him, had the officer drive him to a remote location and Kris then attacked the guy and left him in a condition to where the officer had to check into a hospital and miss some work days.

We all then tried to pull Kris back into the fold by talking to him and Ray, well after we learned Kris attacked an officer of the courts, I counseled with Ray and said OK, hey, don't let Kris onto your property but we determined to meet with Kris on HIS property and in the context of his people.

Kris was a Tejano. I'd have to do a whole other article on what that means but it's a cultural power center and we thought that having Kris back in this context and his people, well, we could try to use all our healing methods to get the old Kris back.


I get a call from Ray and he's hanging out and Kris' place pretty much doing what we said was the plan: minster to this bro. And things kinda sounded raucus and like there was a party going on and it was kinda like a party call line but somehow Kris started manifesting anger at me and I was frankly...I literally could not understand him because he was speaking all in ghetto gangster accent and lingo we think he picked up in jail but he (Ray later told me) that he was reacting to my having come down on him for having attacked the parole officer and he really needs to cut that sh....izz out or WE WILL COME DOWN ON HIM but I didn't get it....and Kris was just getting more and more upset and Ray was trying to lay healing hands on him and at one moment...swear to Gods...I flashed into prescience.

I didn't know what and I didn't know who but all the sudden I got this flash and said RAY YOU ARE IN DANGER, RUN RAY, YOU ARE IN DANGER and all the sudden I had a palpable sense of demons closing in on Rayzer and the horror of that moment.....

OMG. The demons aren't attacking Kris at this moment. They are using Kris to attack Ray. And OMG they got him and this trap is not about to close, IT JUST DID.

I was recording the whole thing. Kris was out of control and no telling but that recording includes that moment when it hit me and I started shouting RAYZER RUN! RAY RUN NOW RUN! RUN AND DON'T LOOK BACK! and he heard my urgency and he said OK I'M RUNNING!

And then till now it's all been a case of "if only". If only I had got this word that I believe my spirit protectors tried to communicate at the last moment, if only I had got it earlier but I DID. RAY DID TOO. Kris was consumed by a spirit of evil that he picked up in the brutal environment of NM jails. We knew this. We chose to confront evil and accept Kris. We tried and we failed so bigtime.

The story goes that Kris ran down Ray and attacked Ray from behind, the injuries on Ray are documented. Ray, being like I dunno, like 100X the power and size of Kris and being a semi-trained martial artist, Ray counter attacked. And the location being remote and Ray having no specific place to run TO, he ran back and got back on the phone with me. And I said RUN OVER HILL AND VALLEY AND DON'T STOP. But he said someone had called the cops and that changed everything. Don't become a fugitive. So I ordered Ray to stay put and I heard him get arrested.

The next day I got bad news, Ray was in jail but then worse. Kris. Our little brother Kriston. Our precious and bright and shining example of new Liberty Youth....was dead. Gone. We failed. Whatever treatment opportunity we had, we missed. If we tried we didn't try hard enough. And now Ray is in jail and held as the man that killed Kris.

And that is my part of this story and I never got to tell it in public before. And I have never been apart from this. I made myself a part of this from the moment I met Ray on one day and Kris on another, I love them both and will never stop, they both made my grade and loyalty for me is trans-generational: I trust you, I trust you with my property, my women, my children.

As a result of the venal and harsh legal regime in New Mexico, Ray was immediately incarcerated, he spent 15 months in jail, deprived of access to counsel, wealth and even our help as we, his friends did what we could along with Ray's mom and pop who are heroes and stood by their son, we little people did what we could to mount some sort of legal defense. And eventually we secured some dilegent legal help and we put together a very good case indeed.

I'd say "winning case" but again, in this one, there's no win. We all lost. This is about crisis management and the only question is how much we can minimize the damage. Can we just get through this? Can we just find a way to EXIST? If we have this then we have a chance. Just a chance to repair the damage IN OUR LIVES. If we can do this maybe there's a chance, just a chance that we can do something to minimize the damage this did to Kriston's people, in particular Mrs. Pohl whom our hearts go out to ever single day and night. And I don't think any of us imagine anything we can do can repair this damage to Mrs. Pohl, we can try anything but we cannot make this wrong right: we cannot bring back her son from the dead. What I tell you from my heart now is that we tried.

The state killed Kriston Pohl. We were the ones trying to bring him back to life.

To you who hear this for the first time, this is simply a warning to watch yourself and your footsteps and know that self defense is truly the last of the last resorts. The only thing that could make this situation worse is if Ray died too and we have two lost brothers.

To those who have known Ray, who have been familiar with this situation we have one final job to do. We must try to be present at Ray's final hearing and if we can't be there, we must mail hand written notes to the court on Ray's behalf. If we can influence this situation one more time, as we have ever step of this way, we can get Ray's conviction, which he has already served MAXIMUM JAIL TIME FOR, we can just get his record as a felon expunged and he can resume life and commerce and a hope of a future.

Having said this, most of you know that I am still facing criminal charges on my own miserable experience and I'm grateful for your support and you have it coming back from me. For it seems to me, people, that Andy Warhol in the 1970s said everybody gets their 15 minutes of fame but now for us I observe that everybody gets their 15 days in jail. And I still need help and Ray still needs help but at least we show progress and improvement and we are moving on regardless.


So here is what Ray tells us on how to help:

Here is a link to a site I put up when I was finally released from jail after being held for 15 months on 1st degree murder charges. http://operationkristalklear.blogspot.com/2012/04/what-is-op...

A few people have already asked about being able to speak on my behalf in addition to (or in lieu of) writing a letter. I spoke to Todd Farkas (my attorney), and he presented two options:

1) If you want to speak on my behalf in court at the Sentencing Hearing, please let me know before March 12th. Todd will schedule you in for a 5-minute slot.

2) If you cannot attend the hearing but would like to speak on my behalf, you can record a video (YouTube suggested), and submit the link to me as late as March 12th. Todd will see that it is submitted to the judge.

I am Smudge Pot of Oyate and I thank you for your attention. If any instructions are unclear please PM me, I'm always open, lights are always on.

I want to make absolutely clear that this is not me asking for help in this instance, this is me appealing for the help of those who know Ray, his handle on the DP is Rayzer42. You guys already help me. This is for a bro and for what it's worth, this is what I'm willing to do for us. If this story and my association with it disparages me or makes my investment advice lose credibility with some people then so be it. What I learned from this experience more than any other is it's not about not getting in trouble, people like us are already in trouble. This is about what we do about it and giving up on friends is neither a smart thing to do about it nor is it reassuring to whom we want as investors. What we want is investors that see that we stand by our friends and partners in tough times.

And you guys are that.

And thanks. Thanks for being you.

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that's a sad story, Smudge

Not sure what I can offer besides my wishes that you and Ray find justice and peace and come out stronger in the end.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

Is it a story if we're not dead yet?

Is it sad until we can't help the situation?

Know what I look forward to?

The restoration. The Next Place where I long to embrace Kriston.

Know what seems impossible right now?

That Kriston's mom finds peace and might somehow, some way understand that we hurt too. And we cannot equate our suffering with hers but is it possible.

What we can do now to make inroads is published and we can influence this situation. And then we will write the story.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

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Sorry for your loss

And I hope and pray for a better outcome.

You should write a book about this experience. I think it's important to get the word out that the state caused this. There but for the grace of God go I. Sending healing energy and love.

I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.
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hey you have a prayer in your sig line

Heh. Heh heh heh heh heh....

"and you will know them by this sign"

reminds me of a song;

We are one the the spirit, we are one in the Lord
we are one in the spirit, we are one in the Lord
and we pray that our unity may one day be restored
and they'll know we are Chrsitans by our love, by our love
yes they'll know we are Christians by our love.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

I have had some interaction

I have had some interaction with Ray. My honest assessment was that he was kind of a jerk.

In my interactions with him, he mistreated everyone I ever saw him interact with. And people made excuses for him like "hey that's just the way he is" or "that's what freedom is all about". I especially disagree with the last statement. Freedom isn't about letting people be a jerk and giving them a pass about it because that's their right. Yes, it's our right to be a jerk, but there are social consequences to doing so, even when you believe there should be no legal consequences. We don't have to accept those behaviors just because we want freedom. The idea of freedom is that people should feel the negative consequences of their actions and behavior and that leads them to change and be better people for it.

Now having said all that, I do feel bad for his situation. Being arrested for killing someone in an altercation that you reportedly didn't start, is tragic and has no winners. I do hope the best for him. I do think people can change. I hope he has changed for the better and humbled since we last met and that when he regains his freedom that he will be a stronger force for good.

I am sure I had that coming...

Glassman, If you want to share any details about why you came away with the impression I was a "jerk", I would gladly hear it. But that being said, it probably isn't necessary. I understand how I was.

One of the interesting things about all this is that it was actually March, 2010, 6 months before this nightmare started in which I had a major revelation about how I was acting, and how I need to act in the future. Oddly enough, this is while Kriston Pohl was locked up in prison for no good reason, and he was learning exactly the opposite lesson.

Anyway, the thing I realized is that my anger at the New World Order creeps (and the like) did not derive from a good place. Does anger ever? Maybe. See but here is the important thing: I was, and many are, angry at them for building systems which benefit them at the expense of others. I was not "mad" because this is an unethical way to act so much as I was REALLY mad at the fact that they were better at it then me. I had striven so hard to be of success in the game they created, that I had fallen into the same mindset as them.

I had become a person who would put systems above relationships- who recognized value in efficiency over human happiness. I referred to the "sheeple" and talked down about and to them the same way a lot of the creeps do about all of us from their yachts and tower-top suites.

On top of that, I started to see the fruits of our hard work by early 2010. I was gaining some optimism that this ship could possibly change course in time to prevent a total societal meltdown. Then I find guys like David Wilcock. Whether you agree with him or not, you do have to give him a little credit for being able to largely see all the nasty things happening in the world, and yet he always has an optimistic view of the future. Here is the video I made around that time...

All of this culminated for me in an event that had I been in church at the time, they would have said I had been "saved". This happened alone, on my own, at my property in the remote hills of New Mexico. This happened a full SIX MONTHS before the nightmare began. And thank God it did. Had I not had this realization to set aside my ego, and realize we are all one and we are all in this together, I may have really lost it when I spent 90 days on total lockdown. I may have become the exact person that the DA and the press were trying to say I was!

But that didn't happen because I had already learned the lesson 6 months prior. So the nice thing about 15 months in jail is that I had lots of time to read and write and really dig into my new realizations. I got to work out regularly and I put some health problems behind me. I came out of jail in the best physical, spiritual, and mental health of my life.

So, in short, Glassman, I offer that I respect you for being honest here, and in calling me out. If I knew more about what happened between us, maybe I could even offer an apology. So, if you want to have that conversation at some point, I am here! :)

Ray Powell
Founder, Hacking For Change
Head Geek, Startbutton.com

So I guess this isn't gonna help one bit

but your honest assessment? Not gonna contradict it. Ray can be a jerk sometimes. And I've seen what you see but...me and Ray arguing somehow just leaves us closer and friends. I've never been angry at Ray but EXASPIRATED?

Tell you a story (oh no not another smudge pot story)....

Here we are in DC. It's the morning of R3VOLUTION March. Among other things, my team is securing Dr. Ron Paul himself, we have planned for months, I was up at 4:00AM, by 6:00AM I had done my walk-through with my core team (APPLESEED!), I saw that our stage manager was on scene, my liaisons with Capitol Hill PD were in position and had our radio frequencies so I had just enough time to skip back to the hotel and make sure our team was in business, it was a malestrom of hyperactivity and where's Ray?

Hey anybody seen Rayzer?

I bounce up to his room and pound on the door but Ray can't hear me, he has the music cranked up and I'm banging and pounding on the door for like an eternal 2 minutes and at this moment PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, ALL OVER THE WORLD, OUR ALL START STUDDED CAST OF SPEAKERS AND OUR LOGISTICS COORDINATORS.....

and finally Ray opens up the door and he's got a smoke in his mouth, a cup of coffee in his hand, he's barfoot and weaing a bathrobe and he's just like "hey dude what's up?"


And here it goes. He gives me the "the Ray look" which means, and he says "dude WTF is your problem?"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's where I go snap. See other people at that moment would have got so angry that here's the rest of us going nuts and there's Ray basically having his own private party and he's his own guest of honor. Everything is swell in Ray-world. See it's YOU that is freaking out.

I did the exact opposite of logic which would have roughly been along the lines of berating him or simply man handling him into the nearest dumpster and it was nothing short of utter and rank insensitivity to what the rest of us were going through at that moment but with Ray there is this utter futility to getting him to see things any way but the way he does.

So I walked right into his room, hopped onto his bed and grabbed this tray thing he had and I rolled us a joint and he handed me a cup of coffee and I indulged myself in 5 minutes of Ray-time. Yes, the whole world was counting on us but if the cares of the whole world can't wait for just 5 minutes?

If the whole world makes us forget about one bro then what the heck are we doing this for anyway? And why was I there? To take care of others? No, I was there to take care of us. I'm not a security officer, I'M OUR SECURITY DIRECTOR AND MY JOB IS TO CARE FOR US AS INDIVIDUALS. And I'm not exactly under-confident. I had the best team in the world. I always do. Know why I get the best teams with the most dedicated people? Because I don't just hire outside security agencies, I train them out of volunteers. OUR PEOPLE. Nobody gives more, nobody is more dedicated and committed. We are the best, consistently the best in this business and every law enforcement agency from private to federal, they are always shocked, SHOCKED to find that we're volutneers, just regular people.

The whole world goes one way and Ray goes the other. So yeah I can relate. And I don't know why we're friends, we just are and even if we weren't, at a certain point you don't pick your friends you just sorta end up with them. And bailing on a bro when he needs us most?


And here's the kicker. If I believed that Ray killed Kris out of any malice or spit, over any anger or premeditation, as I stand before you now and always will with my life on this line,

I'd have taken justice into my own hands. And we would be having a very different conversation right now. Because Kriston Pohl was my friend too. I would have claimed right of vengance. And I would have satisfied the blood lust of Kriston's family, an old and honorable Tejano family. You don't get to kill one of my friends and walk away whistling, there is a very serious question as to whether you will live or whether you will die.

One fact in this matter is Ray went through my trial and my findings and my judgement before any other. And mine has no appeals process.

Having passed my tests or at best, there's points upon which I am not and will not ever be informed, I let Ray live and now I support him because there's only one bro in this I can help and that's Ray. I make prayers for Kriston and instructed my spirit protectors to carry him home, I ask that he be at peace with me and my decisions but right now I can only help the living bro.

I can only help the living bro now. And it's the sad duty of the warrior to fight for what you have left, not what you lost.

This fight with Kriston, we shall settle and make peace with in the Next Place. Until then our duty is for the living and the future generations.


Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

remember the story of Jesus as he saile to the gentiles?

And came upon a man who was infested with the legion? The demon asked that they be cast into the swine. They dove into the water and drowned. Those in the town did not understand, even though the once incoherent man was freed, that the animals paid the ultimate price. There is evil, our hearts have the capacity for it and the townspeople drove Jesus from the area because they did not understand. There is evil in this world, yup, and not all comes from man. I am sorry for your anguish, and pain, I feel it. But choices are made, free will is our bane and salvation.

Smudge, I will pray for you and your friend.

I thank you but email is ok too

Some people accuse me of spamming chat rooms and you can see this on our own DP chat but I do it at night when the room is dead. I'm convinced that God dwells in silent places so what I am literally doing is praying.

One time I felt like I needed prayer late at night and everybody was asleep and I suddenly got this message that if you want to talk to God there should be GodsHouse.org and I went up there and there it was and I asked for prayer and somebody prayed with me.

Wow. Check it out. God is on the internet. Yeah we know God is EVERYWHERE but...still kinda strange to consider that God cruises facebook. And he doesn't need a modem or a cable account. And maybe internet helps us satisfy our obligations to minister. Imagine my joy to find that if they haven't read it, the NSA keeps all of my prayers, all of my hopes, all of my ups and downs. Maybe they will read it some time. Do them some good.

Know what will do us some good here? If prayer is your hammer, at this point? Honestly? We need the help of the living.

Would you pray for our brother Kriston Pohl and ask his ancestors to forgive us? If you are a spirit warrior, hear our hearts and just help, do what we do best, intercede on our behalf. Ray and I still have a chance to heal our lives but pray for Kriston's mother who we don't even know how to ask for forgiveness, who could ask a mom that? But when this is resolved, whichever way it goes, I mean to do exactly that.

A demon attacked us and took a heavy cost and sometimes all we can do here is contain the damage. When I see Kris in the next place....

man I can't wait.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

My spirit is with you and Ray, and may you be filled with

the energy to pull through and rise above. This is a really touching story and thanks for sharing, my heart goes out to you all, peace, love, & liberty.

kind people rock

Come as you are

Come as you are, as you were, as I want you to be, as a friend, as a friend as in no enemies ya.

Enemies ya. Enemies ya. Enemies ya.

When I swear that I don't have a gun

and no I don't have a gun

and no I don't have a gun

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Very sorry

to hear of these very unfortunate events. It must be a stressful and challenging time for everyone involved.

Sending positive and healing energy your way to help all those who are hurting and needing comfort at this time.

Thank you for sharing this with us and hope the path forward will be clear and smooth.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

Don't Let Go by Husker Du: some are demons

Don't give up
Don't let go
Don't give in
Don't let on

In your bed
Late at night
Red hot red
Don't give up


Did you know there are positive demons?

It's ok. We will not let you go.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

here's to the rebels...

the misfits ... the crazy ones . . .

"Here's To The Crazy Ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the
square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules, and they have
no respect for the status-quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify, or vilify them.
About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the
human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world - are the ones who DO !"


That's a tough situation.

Good advice about self-defense.

I am not familiar with who Ray is

but he probably is looking at involuntary manslaughter at the least. I don't think it will be considered a homicide from what you state. Truth does not win court cases, money does. He is gonna need a good lawyer, not sure where to go with all of this. You can get good public defenders possibly in cases like this if they think it will build their street credentials. Not sure if anything I said helps, but it's all I got. I can only wish and hope all works out well for you all.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Yes looking at in a mirror

a mirror in a way shows us the past. The second we are, it's gone because we are serial beings. We have a definite beginning, duration and end. At least as corporeology goes. In exactly the same way that a photograph can only show us the past and the moment the shutter goes CLICK that moment is in the past.

That's all it can ever be.

Ray has already done maximum jail time for this "crime", they kept him in jail without trial and efffective defense for 15 months.

The ONLY question now is can we get the felony conviction off his record so that he can stand in the company of men, that he is restored the rights of voting and the ability to own and possess weapons for his own protection and that of his family.

That is what is at stake here now.

Do you understand?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.