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What's going in your garden?

These are very exciting times! After relying on old stock and the much appreciated wild treasures for two years I'm now making preparations. It's time to dig my heels into the garden, to trade sweat for bread.

It's a great deal for me. When I was challenged to do the math it was undeniable. Take two kernels of corn and a sharp stick. Poke two holes in the ground, drop in your seed, and step on it. With a little maintenance those two seeds become hundreds. How does a a 10,000% return sound? Yeah, sounds good to me too.

I've learned a lot from you folks and I'm back for more. What are your plans? Browse rareseeds.com for some inspiration. Share your progress, even your failures, if you dare.

And if you don't have a piece of earth to start, consider the waste places. Learn to use a new wild edible. Make it a game. Each one is worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars over a lifetime. If you have thirty bucks lying around, Sam Thayer's books on wild edible plants are excellent. No tillage required, just dress it and keep it. What fun!

As always, remember the law, respect the gleaner's rights, and respect the land. Give it rest. Avoid mingled seed. Then you may reap the benefits of rain in due season, and watch as the Creator of heaven and earth rebukes those who would devour.

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my garden sleeps

We are still in Persephone days here, though coming out of it soon. The cold spell killed the radishes and swiss chard in my cold frame, but the kale and spinach survived. I tried some winter legumes, but they didn't make it. At least now I know. I also planted a bunch of garlic in October and it sprouted and the green leaves are poking through the snow. I am not worried about the garlic. I don't know whether the leeks will make it through the cold. I will probably get some more brassicas going in a few weeks. The bee cluster is dwindling, but they should make it.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Whatever you grow in your garden, please consider saving the

bees. Don't use any pesticides, they are all systemic. The plant will reproduce it as it grows and you will be eating pesticides in your own food.

Use diatomaceous earth instead of pesticides. This stuff works on every insect except bees and is good for the garden. If you use it be patient, it takes a day or two to see no bugs.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

That is great advice.

We put a little in the pet food and feed for the cows and horses. We have zero worms in our animals. You can also put it around the foundation of your house to keep scorpions and ants out of the house. It cuts them and they dehydrate and die rapidly. If you have chickens, you can use a flour sifter to spread it on various piles of poop, and it will dry out and not be as stinky, nasty, and tasty for flies to gather. Make sure you use the right kind though, as in food safe. They make some that is used with swimming pools and it is NOT safe for ingestion. Take it from me, my wedding license from Jamaica has my occupation as 'pool boy'. Almost as good as sleeping in a Holiday Inn Express. :)

DE benefits

Best item ever for a garden.

Animals: Put very, very small amount on animals to kill ticks & fleas. I just get a little dust on my hand and lightly go over back and sides.

Also check out the great benefits to humans. Buy high quality food grade only. Recommended: http://www.amazon.com/Perma-Guard-Diatomaceous-Earth-Food-Gr....

Research all the benefits, here are a couple (comments are good on both sites): http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2013/02/foodless-friday-heal...

Most people don't realize DE has super benefits when taken

in just a glass of water. Most don't know that our bodies can't use calcium and magnesium without having silica first. Silica is required to keep our joints moving correctly, even skin and hair needs it. In fact we all would be just a pile of mush without silica. It's the most required nutrient and has become depleted in our soil from over farming practices, so not much in produce anymore.

The great thing about DE is that it is almost all silica.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

Very good info

'Food Grade', that's what I was looking for.

Food grade DE right here


I see there are four dealers in Oklahoma. This is where most people get theirs to sell online. Anyone can become a dealer if they want to.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

I never tried a shop vac. Quicker than hand picking I'd guess

Potato beetles and squash bugs is what I had in mind.

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We have Bananas, Loquats, Grapefruit, Orange and a 35' Macadamia Nut tree.
Shared with our neighbors whom have Mango, Papaya and Avacado!

We haven't a garden yet but have managed to stock a good amount of MREs and other survival foods and wares.
We tried a small raised garden once but the critters caused a lot of damage.
There is quite the variety of critters down here on the edge of the Everglades!
And every bird in N. America in the winter! My garden needs to be in a cage!

My bananas are awesome.
We don't have monkeys! :-)

Exercise Liberty...and share with your neighbors!

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The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

Want to trade for some ice and snow?

My 4 year old would kill for some bananas growing in the back yard, and I'd do the same for avocado. Avocados are about 1.19 apiece these days, when I normally got them 2/1.00. When we go to Florida I eat all of them I can. Was wishing early today that there was a way to preserve them when they were on sale.

YOU are sooo lucky

I LOVE loquats, they have got to be one of thee most under appreciated, under valued fruits of all time especially when they are at their juiciest peak. I grew up with a loquat tree in the back yard and every year we would relish the season. Thank you for reminding me of something I need to look into planting again.

They are yummy!

The perfect ripeness window is short!
And you have to fend off the birds!

Many a morning I stand under that tree and consume a fruity breakfast!

Exercise Liberty...plant the seed, enjoy the season!

America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

Yet all so very

worth it!

I live in S. Carolina, very sandy soil here... any tips?

Used to live in CT where there is very rocky, but rich soil due to the glaciers that came through thousands of years ago leaving them behind. They're called "New England potatoes".

Here in western SC though the soil is all sand after about half a foot deep... Not used to it yet... Tomatoes did not yield last year...

Any tips?

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Amend! Amend! Amend!

It's gonna require digging and filling. You might have to spend some on some good soil or medium. Mix it in with your sand and it will drain well.

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That's what I did to get it started last year... Looks like

I'll have to do it again this year... table scraps just aren't enough...

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Dont know what to tell you about growing In SC

because like a dumbass - I moved back to CT from upstate SC ten years ago.

Yes I am jealous of you and I am bitter -lol!!!

Seriously though - just keep improving with well rotted manure.

John2K has some great advice.

Sounds like you need some organic material turned in with the sandy material. Where we live it is very sandy also. We live right next to a river called the South Canadian, and it is basically a quarter mile wide sandy beach for hundreds of miles starting in Amarillo Texas and ending in Lake Eufaulah Oklahoma. Anyone who is a fan of John Waynes 'Rooster Cogburn' has heard about the South Canadian river. BTW I am lucky enough to be a direct descendent of Rooster Cogburn on my Grandmothers side.

Anyway..We were lucky enough to have an old barn on our place that hasn't been used in about ten years. I took the front end loader and cleaned it out by dumping a 4 inch layer on my raised beds and then turned the soil. We had an abundance of tomatoes for the next two years, and this year we will do it again, except with our compost piles that have finally had time to break down. Our 'Green Zebras' and 'Cherokee Purples' did fantastic with this setup. We never had grown Green Zebras before last year. They are absolutely wonderful! Tart, and just bigger than golf balls. We are now able to make green tomato relish and fried green tomatoes without cutting into our red tomato supply. If you haven't tried Cherokee Purples and Green Zebras, please give them a shot. The Cherokee Purples are the best tomato I have ever eaten. They make great salsa, sandwich tomatoes, and just slice and eat food. I am so in love with my Cherokee Purples!

Oh and btw..you can always take soil samples and have your local extension agency test them. That way you can figure out just exactly what your soil might need. Good luck!

Have you tried Black Krim?

I'm going to give it a try, though the only tomatoes that have worked for me are Roma's and a volunteer cherry that I save each year.

No I have not,

but will sure look into them. If there's one thing I can't get too much of, it's tomatoes. We let the chickens run wild in our garden which causes some problems, but the bugs stay away, so I'd say it's a wash. That was until the figured out that cherry tomatoes are delicious! Our tomato plants are right down the middle of a 4 foot wide raised bed, and there are cattle panels on both sides of the box to support the plants. The chickens learned the could fly up on top and rattle around a bit and the cherry tomatoes would come falling down. That's all fine and dandy, because I plant way too many cherry tomatoes, but it started really tearing up the plants. This year we're going to get ducks and geese to run around the garden and keep the chickens in their electric netting area, BUT we have to plant some cherry tomatoes in there for the little ladies. :)

BTW We plant so many cherry tomatoes in order to keep us and our kids out of the big ones while we're working in the garden. If I didn't have the cherry tomatoes in there I probably wouldn't see many maters make it into the house.

Western SC is sandy?

I could see Eastern SC being sandy closer to the coast.
I live in Western SC (Upstate) and the soil is red clay...lots of amendments needed (I use my own compost, leaves, etc.).

The rain is what affected my garden the most last year but I did get a harvest despite the lousy weather.

Been doing work all winter - little by little - to prepare for Spring planting.

Here's a little sandy soil advice: http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilize...

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There's a lot of red clay too, but my yard is mostly sand...

I'm outside Augusta, GA, across the border in SC...

Yeah, apparently this was all sea bed ages ago, even all the way out here from the coast.
And the Savannah River might have something to do with it, too, I'm guessing.

And, yeah the rain was terrible last year I began to get black mold on my herbs, etc.

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You might try growing a

You might try growing a tomato plant in a huge heap of compost, table scraps & other organic garbage. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQBSfYnN_c Around 1 minute in he shows how he does it. His plants are huge & produce many tomatoes. The guy's website is at http://www.rotheraine.com/ The giant pile of compost & table scraps might negate the issue you're having with sand.

I haven't tried it yet but plan to do so when I have land that I can garden.


That was worth watching!

I'm just sitting here wondering where I'm going to find a 4ft heap of garbage.

add organic matter

Mix in lots of compost.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Thanks everyone for your help and input...

I've been putting 'table scraps' & leftover veggies in last years beds now since the fall, so I have been doing that. Mixed in manure and bagged soil last year to get it started. Just not sure if that's going to be enough? Oh well, I'll just keep at it and add more cow poop and leftover side dishes until it's right! Thanks, and good luck with your own gardens, I'm sure ya'll will have better luck than me!

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We have 2 large raised

We have 2 large raised beds...both around 16 X 16. One bed has all fruit...a peach tree top level, blackberries mid level, and the ground is covered in strawberries.

The second bed will grow...

swiss chard ...

all grown extremely close together.

I'll be starting the tomato, lettuce, onion, spinach, cantaloupe and peppers indoors in the next week or so. The rest will be planted from seeds in the outdoor beds in late March-early April.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

sounds like some of that

square foot gardening I've read about. I can't wait to get some fruit trees going.

It's very similar to the

It's very similar to the www.food4wealth.com system.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul