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Josie the Outlaw: Who owns you? Are you anyone's slave? New Video 2/4/2014

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I'm not even going to try.

If you think that you "own" yourself, go ahead and talk. I'll listen and see whether I learn something. I'm just saying. You didn't create yourself. You didn't have anything to do with your own existence. How can you claim to "own" something that you didn't create? DNA pwns you. Your ancestors pwn you. You don't own you. The ONLY thing that you can influence, AT ALL, is future generations that carry your genetic material. You can choose compatible, healthy mates, or incompatible ones... Aside from that, you and I amount to nothing in the grand scheme of human existence. Why would I try to convince anyone? LOL butterfly x chaos theory... Who remembers the Ukrainians who dies in the Holodomor? SMH

How can I claim to own

How can I claim to own something I didn't create? Well... Everything I purchase at the store, I own, though I did not create it. So there's one way. Whenever I stake a claim to unowned goods/resources, such as harvesting blueberries or a tree from unowned or public lands, I own them dispite not having created them. There's another.

So, I stake a claim to own myself as a birthright of my sentiant existance as a human. As far as I know, and as far as you can proove, no one else owns me, and that makes me an unclaimed resource and I, as the resident of this body have the first right of refusal for ownership. So really, I have no idea what gives you the idea that I don't own myself given our system of laws and private property.

I did not give my consent to be anyone's property. Or is it that my parents created me and thus they own me? That can't be the case since labor is not a claim to ownership. You must own the actual materials of what you build, not the object itself. If you disagree ask yourself who owns a treehouse built out of stolen lumber. Children do not consent to be created, and when you claim ownership over someone's property without their consent, that's called theft (or in that case, slavery). Or are you trying to say that if I clone a human in a test tube, they become my personal property to dispose of as I please? Even if they are sentiant with a mind of their own? Perhaps we should get together and figure out how to clone and then breed an army of slaves?

Or were you speaking of some other creator who owns me? A... magic sky fairy perhaps? Or a Flying Spagetti Monster? Or perhaps one of your Drywish forest spirit friends? Do THEY own me? Give me some proof and we can talk. As far as im concerned, I was "created" by random chance inside an infinity which has no sentiant mind and therefore cannot own property. Until you can "proove" that another individual has a higher claim to ownership over me than I do, I own me. Its pretty simple.

At "best" your entire argument makes a plea that I have a social"responsability" to those who came before me. However responsability is voluntary, not manditory. Therefore I am under no legal obligation be deprived of my rights for any other individual, and I will make choices based on my personal value judgments.

This is the wrong crowd to be pushing "the collective outweighs the individual" with pal. Collectives are an abstraction that do not exist, much like there is no such thing as a "forest." There are only trees. And there are only individuals. Most of us here actually understand the legal process of aquiring private property and our rights here.

Ownership is a social construct.

I'm not talking about ownership.
I'm talking about moral obligation.

To borrow a phrase, "You might as well buy the waves of the oceans
or a piece of the sky. Somewhere, there is a man who thinks he owns the moon."

You don't own your own LIFE any more than you own those other things.
You exist, because a collective group of individuals, made moral decisions that allowed your Life to continue to evolve through generations and ultimately reside within you. Your Life cannot continue to exist without the Collective, so it is the best interest of your Life to nurture the Collective and enhance its existence.

Incorrect. Owning "waves of

Incorrect. Owning "waves of the ocean" is not valid because waves are just an abstraction based on the behavior of water. However there's no valid reason you can't own the property water traverses, even if its ocean water. Heck you could even own a specific amount of water in your fish tank, and put a little wave generator in there to make "ocean waves." Private property is defined by several traits. One of them is that it has to be a finite object which 2 or more people cannot use in exactly the same way, at exactly the same time.

A human being meets this criteria. We are a finite object which cannot be used exactly the same way at the same time by two or more people. Therefore we could meet the criteria of private property. We "can" be owned, unlike an abtract concept such as a wave, or a piece of the sky which is actually trillions of particles and gasses which are transiant and move from one section to another.

So since we can be owned and defined as private property, that begs the question; who owns us? The highest claim to ownership we can "proove" thus far, is that we own ourselves because "we" are "always" the first humans to claim our flesh. Therefore every human being has original claim to their own body. Our bodies are therefore our own private property to dispose of as we like.

Who do we owe our existance too? Who do we have a responsability to? What groups of people should we be thankful for the gift of life and all that we have? Those are questions that only the individual can arrive at. One thing is clear however, responsability, obligation and gratitude are by no means a claim of ownership over ourselves.

A warning however, and I may have misinterpreted, you should be very careful if its your intention to dismiss the idea of private property. Private Property, the ability to "own" things is the basis for capitalism and individualism. Many societies throughout history have opted for an eclectic economy where everyone shares everything and no on "owns" anything. The result nearly without acception has been complete collapse under good circumstances, and mass graves in the rest. Ownership is a fundamental cornerstone to freedom. You cannot have one without the other. So please bare these things in mind when espounging the virtues of philisophical collectivism and the wonders of eclectic spiritualism. When you can't own property, you will become property.

In closing, until you can proove someone has a higher claim of physical ownership over me than I do, I own myself.

Do you believe

voluntarism and the collectives interest in survival are mutually exclusive? Throughout nature we see redundancy in individuals. Having many individuals ensures survival. Organizing into a cohesive collective with emphasis on survival seems to me that it could be counter productive to those ends by eliminating or at least diminishing the diversity of individuals. Would you agree that there is a plan afoot by a global elite to destroy individuality?

You mention "You didn't create yourself". Well that is certainly true to the extent of conception and even the experiences that form the basis of what an individual will grow to express as Self. But the fact remains as reasoning beings we have the capability to make decisions and exercise free will. Granted many or even most know not what free will is but nonetheless we have the ability to break convention and choose our own path. In the end we own and are responsible for the choices/statements/actions/ we make. Also unfortunately we are bound by the consciousnesses of the collective in the aggregate.

To make it clear I believe it is organized religion, punitive parenting and the state that are the trifecta of control that conditions us to accept our earthly enslavement. We can crush these paradigms and honor our species and planet, ensure our survival through voluntary action once we properly understand that we can not organize human affairs through force fraud and coercion.

I would agree that there are many plans afoot...

One plan of the global elite is to promote individualism and divisiveness. While we struggle, in individual self-interest, against one another, we do not have the requisite unity to defend ourselves against a unified elite, which is intent on extracting our energy for their own use. Universal Socialism is a useful tool to the globalist agenda, as it directs all individual energy only to the state, while discouraging all other loyalties. All the oligarchy which pretends to be loyal to the People, but has no such loyalty, needs to do is control the state and skim the profits.

That is amazingly incorrect.

That is amazingly incorrect. Your problem is that you are incorrectly defining your terms.

Individualism and Collectivism are systems of governance which differ on the origination of rights and the location of political power. They are not meant to be taken as "individual" & "collective" in terms of alone or among others.

Tyranical governments use Collectivism 100% of the time. No exceptions. They NEVER promote individualism. You are very much confusing "divide and conquer" with Individualism. Individualism is a system of government (a republic or stateless society) based around natural rights. Individuals have natural rights, and they can transfer those rights to a governing body, however they cannot transfer rights they do not have. A good example is a gated community. The people who live there may higher a secruity guard, and they may give him some limited rights to protect them from dangers. They have a right to self defense, so they can grant this. However they have no right to grant him the right to go raid the next gated community over, kill people and take their things, because THEY do not have the right to murder or steal.

Further, the security guard has absolutly no authority to deprive the people whose community he has been hired to protect, of their rights. Imagine if the secrurity guard began telling the homeowners they couldn't come out after 8pm, they couldn't own guns, couldn't use pink lawn flamingos and kept upping his own wages, threatening to lock those who refused to pay in a cage. He'd be fired immediatly.

Collectivism on the other hand claims that the governing body has the right to grant rights to its subjects, and withdraw them as it chooses. It can assign certain rights to certain "groups" of people and deems that the group outweighs the individual. Of course in reality there is no such thing as a group. A group is nothing more than an abstraction of many individuals, so whatever is afflicted upon the "individual" is afflicted upon the group. But through this rationalization, the ruling class can rationalize to its own slaves, sacrificing some individuals for the many. Of course in the end, the "few" is the public, and the "many" is the government. This is a slave and master society. All governments are like a beast which feeds on liberty. If left unchecked (which is inevitable as the more comphy people are, the less they pay attention) that beast will devour liberty until none is left. When the liberty is gone, the beast will begin to feed on the people.

This is why im a capitalist in favor of a statless society. No government can be contained for long. Prosperity brings apathy, and apathy and governments do NOT mix. It is an illusion to think you can contain a government and keep it individualistic. A gated community can keep its security force in check because if their guards begin screwing up, they get fired and a more responsable company gets the contract. Competition is a wonderful thing.

Congratulations to Josie and Larken

Larken has always done a god job at explaining these issues. But Josie is damn near hypnotic while explaining, and the production is fantastic as well. So congrats to both of you guys for crafting such a palletable message of anarchy.

And since these videos are directly about anarchy, not minarchism or constitutionalism, I am interested in reading some comments for or against anarchism.

Snowden: Not a Slave

There are a few non-slaves around. She was wrong to say that you can't vote for someone who won't enslave one: I personally have helped nominate candidates who would be public servants instead of public masters. Voters just need to elect them.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Blowing up the status

Blowing up the status quo.
One post-hypnotic suggestion at a time.

Ignoring authority is not the

Ignoring authority is not the answer, for sooner or later those who do will find themselves coerced right into jail... or worse!

The remedy is there in the law. It is to know the law that is use to bind you and then to leave its jurisdiction. This does not require physical relocation, but rather a change in status. Refute the presumption that you are the property of Federal legislators. do it completely and lawfully, and create the evidence that you have done so. Again, the remedy is there for your use. You must learn how to use it!

Discover how it works. Read The Red Amendment (link below). Join PAC to build unity, peacefully disengage from the de facto law form that enslaves you, and live in the republican freedom guaranteed to all the States of Men in the Union by the Constitution.

Acting independently will only isolate you, and doing so with disregard to the law will only land you in serious trouble.

Once, there were several States of people in union. Now there is no Union because there are no peoples of the States, only Federal citizens divided by "politics," disinformation, and geography, but united and ruled by fake patriotism, government "benefits" and privilages, and the belief that begging their masters for more benefits and privilages while petitioning for quid pro quo relief will achieve their republican freedom.

Knowing the law IS the answer, not acting independantly of it.

~ Engage in the war of attrition: http://pacalliance.us/redamendment/

Ignoring Authority?

There is no such thing as authority of man over man. Law? What law is there other than natural law?

The way out of the loop of control and domination is not by trying to chain a government (individuals vested with rights that the common man does not have) down. It is through self empowering understanding that we do not have the right to force others to our will that all offenses are theft of one variety or another and theft is immoral.

The 14th Amendment is the

The 14th Amendment is the private law that binds you to the statutory whim of Congress. You assent to it, and grant the federal government authority over you, every time you vote, register, apply for a license, or receive a government "benefit."

Income Taxes, BTW, are voluntary because being a 14th Amendment US citizen is voluntary.

I do not advocate any attempt to "chain [a] government down," but rather by knowing the law that created the Union, and thus the de jure status in the organic system our forebears enjoyed, one can unchain himself from the bonds that he has unwittingly submitted himself to under this current, perverted, de facto law system established by the 14th Amendment.

If you want morality, know the law and act morally. The government is, in fact, acting morally according to the code of its law system that we all have approved of, and continue to support with our participation in it.

It really is that simple.

~ Engage in the war of attrition: http://pacalliance.us/redamendment/

Josie really

understands the tyranny of the state, and does a good job at breaking it down for those caught in their matrix, that as long as they continue to support the state they will never be free. The biggest problem being, as Josie reported in her last video 'A prison be any other name', the government school system has taught most that it's good to reliquish your freedom to the state. My brother is much younger than me, and fits the millenium classification. I prevented him from being caught in the government matrix refered to as public education. However, many in his age group he confers with have been indoctrinated into the matrix, and believe much of the actions of the state are good for them. Then we also, have the older groups who have been indoctrinated into the GOP vs Democrat divisionist game, who are also programmed into the state of serfdom. I'm coming to believe the only recourse is an all out collapse, though it won't be pretty, it's the only way to break the Zionist Bankster power of control, and bring back the Republic as the Founders invisioned it.

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My family does.

My family does.

(But not as a slave. As its head ;p)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

A vote up and a bump

My husband's in the same position. I am 'joined' with him over my children, but he is head over me..

You could also say Messiah 'owns' me as well, and though He is my 'head', as is my husband, yet I am a joint heir of the promises of God.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Your Best Post Ever !!

May this cogent and articulate video help spark determined resistance to the Politics of Obedience.

“Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”
-- [Étienne de La Boétie (1530-1563)
French Jurist and Author, from The Politics of Obedience: Discourse of Voluntary Servitude, pp. 50-53]

Here is another classic:

http://www.dailypaul.com/94073/you-are-a-slave-how-important...

"If we led our lives according to the ways intended by nature and the lessons taught by her, we should be intuitively obedient to our parents; later we should adopt reason as our guide and become slaves to nobody.”
-- [from The Politics of Obedience: Discourse of Voluntary Servitude, p. 55]

Will Tyranny grow quicker and larger if there is no liberty

woman or man to keep it in check??????????????????

kind people rock

Her ability to Articulate

Her ability to articulate the issue plainly makes her a wonderful advocate for Individual Liberty.

WGRR DB - rEVOLutionary talk for revolutionary times. Listen LIVE!

Amen!

Shout it from the rooftops girl!

The creation, production and fair exchange of values is the business of evolving consciousness, love and life.--Craig Johnson

To awaken from the summer

To awaken from the summer slumber