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Homosexuals are Destroying Marriage in America?

Last night, someone emailed and asked me to write about the gay marriage case in Virginia. This morning, a woman from Wisconsin asked if I would blog about the gay marriage case in her state. A few readers in Utah have also requested that I chime in on the gay marriage fight there.

And so I was going to do just that. I sat down to type a scathing rant about gay marriage. I sat down to tell the world that gay marriage is the greatest threat to the sanctity of marriage.

But then I remembered this:

$129 DIVORCE

That’s a sign I saw on the side of the road a little while back. Divorce for sale! Only 129 dollars! Get ‘em while they’re hot!

And then I remembered an article I read last week about the new phenomenon of “divorce parties.” Divorced is the new single, the divorce party planner tells us.

Read more of Matt's article here...

http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/02/04/ive-been-divorced-fou...

As an aside, I know the government has no business in marriage. But maybe if people would start being loving responsible human beings, the government wouldn't be able to manufacture reasons to trample our liberties.

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I'd think feminism a more likely culprit

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Loved the article.

The government has no business being involved with what constitutes marriage.

Why focus on single issues?

"This is worse than that." East Coast vs West Coast vs Third Coast
and so on...
There is obviously an assault on traditional cohesive family identity on multiple fronts, from attacking the most defenseless family member while still in the womb, to encouragement and normalization of various types of deviant and often destructive behavior while downplaying all institutions and ideologies that encourage any behavior other than selfish, hedonistic consumerism.

Let's be clear

The only limitation on marriage should be the number two. Two people that is. Any two adult people! To be clear, we are talking about a legal status and the benefits that accompany that status. Health insurance, tax-free inheritance, not being compelled to testify, power of attorney, medical power of attorney, tax status, property rights to name just a few. Why should a brother and sister, best friends or parent and child be prevented from availing themselves of the legal benefits that come with marriage? Because in truth, love of another mostly does not ever involve sex.

I think this would free the churches of this tar baby. They need to own up to the fact that they are operating as an agent of the government when they co-mingle a government license activity with holy matrimony. All that's needed is new terminology which will lead to new ideology allowing the churches to choose whom they perform their services for. Make it unofficial and free.

What we need is a separation of Church and State (marriage).

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Yes, Homos ruin marriages

homo sapiens :)

What married couple has ever claimed in divorce court the reason for dissolution was homosexuals?
I've heard of irreconcilable differences...but homosexuals?

Judge: "Please explain the reason for the divorce"
Me: "Homosexuals your honor."

I may be alone in this but I don't have the urge to divorce my wife because people of the same sex have sex,or are on TV, or are living together or that the state in sanctioning their unions. In fact, nothing that doesn't involve my family makes me want to divorce my wife.

Also, I don't like these people being grouped as homosexuals. They are individuals who have homosexual sex, when they have sex, which isn't all the time. An individual isn't carpenter when he's mopping floors. No matter how good he is at framing houses.

We are all utterly unique individuals and We must protect each other from large forces that wish to malign us. Don't let them slice and dice us into a thousand different warring factions...Divide and conquer.

please read the entire article.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

HEAR HEAR!

HEAR HEAR!

The STATE wants division...

How they play our strings. The Term homosexual is a modern term. People that are involved in this kind of behavior are really sodomites. If you believe the founding fathers and what their cultural and religious beliefs were, then you can't believe that sodomy was a part of it, because it never was. During that period of time, sodomy was completely shunned. It is still shunned in the majority of countries in the world. I'm sorry to say, but it has never been considered normal.

You must understand that the extremes that our Media goes to just stir things up amongst the nation is suspect in itself. Since we know that 97% of Americans are straight, it should make every one of us wonder why they're trying to push this on the public. In the last few years, Hollywood has pushed this into just about every type of show on TV and made a big deal of it.

The not so obvious perversion is the motive behind our government to make this an issue. My thoughts are that they are obsessed with population control and at the of the end of the day probably just TOTAL CONTROL over everyone. The Sodomy issue comes down to being just a big distraction, so that we will be fighting over this, instead of fighting together to end a Totalitarian Regime which is in place my friends, already in place.

Indeed, because

Sodomy never existed before 1776.

Hilarious.

You're either uneducated or ignorant.

It certainly wasn't as prevalent.

At least not in modern history.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Science proves sodomy wasn't contemplated until

glee was on tv.

Now, its ruining marriages.

People need to think of

People need to think of divorce from a true libertarian perspective. One of the basic tenets of freedom is that no one has the right to live off another. That means no alimony, no child support etc. Because the gov can put a gun to another person's head and make them pay for someone else, divorce is BIG BUSINESS and there's no incentive for many people to stay in it, women especially, when they can use the legal system to rob their partner. Funny, I have never seen a woman ordered to still cook, clean, and sexually satisfy a man in court...the life he was accustomed to so why is it just financial? We easily recognize the latter as slavery, but somehow not the former.

Gov has no business in marriage. If people want to be together, they had better make sure it's right, make sure to work at it, or make sure that they are still a self-sufficient individual which is a good idea anyway as people don't live forever and sometimes die young so having a back up plan is just common sense, instead of the moral hazard gov sanctioned marriage creates.

Oh, was this supposed to be about gays? Doesn't harm me in any way so why should I care? If you don't get that, you're not a libertarian.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

The legal reason, is well,

The practical reason, is well, because even though many woman work today, historically, men have been the primary breadwinners of the family. So the women raise the children, men earn money.

When it comes times for divorce, the man's "contribution" is easy to see. Its the money. The woman's contribution isn't easy; it is the home-life, raising the children, etc. So the court would be unfair to say, "well, the man gets to keep all that he earned" unless they also give everything "else" to the woman (other than custody, a lot of that is intangible and has already been "spent"). Could you imagine the uproar if a court decided that a free man could never be in the same room with his kids, because his ex-wife was the one who raised them? Can you imagine how poorly that would be enforced?

That is why the courts rule the way. The idea is, that as husband and wife, the two of you built a life together. Just like the children aren't just the "mother's" since she raised them, the financial wealth and property isn't just the man's since his labor obtained them.

Obviously, there are times when the court deems financial restitution that is way too much, or even not enough, but that is the basic philosophy behind it.

There was a great example of this a few years back. Some millionaire sports owner, married for 20+ years, got divorced. His wife got half the team, and many cried foul. But this was the reasoning the court gave, especially since the man made his millions while married.

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Don't play the marriage-failure blame-game with gays.

There is plenty of blame to go around without including gays. Blame the glamorization of heterosexual infidelity on TV with movie stars, politicians, & the rich & famous. Blame both the Church's nullifying decades-old marriages for a price and the government penalizing married couples by the marriage tax for the decline of marriage. Both spouses have to work these days to make ends meet, which again implicates the government in wrecking the family unit. The governments continued involvement in wars that never end cannot be contributing at all to keeping families together. The multi-front war on traditional marriage is seen with these issues, not the perceived assault by gays. The institution of traditional marriage has been taken out of the churches and put into the hands of corrupt government officials. The constant brainwashing of the sheeple by the MSM has had the desired effect as well. The cards have been stacked against marriage for decades. The last one gets the blame, in this case gays, but the reality is that many things are actually responsible for destroying marriage.

Government

Government control of marriage destroyed marriage

I know a lesbian couple that

I know a lesbian couple that has 3 adopted children, all from different ethnic backgrounds.

They are both super successful. One parent is a lawyer, the other works for Sotheby's in New York.

About 10 years ago they adopted a black baby boy.

Then they adopted a baby girl from China. Then they adopted another black baby boy.

They would all be dead today if it were not for two people who so happen to love each other.

Their adopted children unwrapped many presents under the tree on Christmas morning, go to school 5 days a week, and come back home to their 2 loving, caring moms.

They are a family, full of love, and they're just like everyone else.

Isn't marriage supposed to be all about LOVE?

Why can't two people of the same sex love each other?

What's wrong with love?

Would people rather have these 3 adopted children living with two married heroin addicts instead just because one is male and the other is female?

Who would you rather leave your kids with if you had to?

Who would you rather have watch over your loved ones?

A very smart, rich lesbian couple or 2 married junkies?

This isn't a hypothetical question either. It's real life America in 2014.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

I would say that just because one situation is better for a

child than another doesn't make it good.

Secondly, I don't consider the life you've described as ideal for children. The children are institutionalized for at least 40 hours a week.

And, thirdly, to answer your question about whom I would have watch over my loved ones, the answer is NEITHER. Both couples you describe would be untrustworthy.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Everything.

What's wrong with love?
everything.

I guess it depends on what you are "loving".

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I agree with OP. Homosexuals are tearing the very fabric of US

Homosexuality is becoming a huge threat. It's so pervasive and ingrained in our society that straight married divorce is on the rise and I know why. Homosexuals are tricking straight married couples to divorce in order to turn them into raging fags!

I will not rest until all homosexuals have been stripped of their freedom to live life as they see fit. That's what Jesus would have wanted - and all issues like the bankruptcy of our country, the increasing threat of a WWIII, or our degenerating liberties (including my own) take a backseat to this important issue.

We must unite in our hatred of those different from us!

Amen and God bless!

cmon. you didn't even read the article.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I think

I think the comment was intended to be sarcastic.

he was attacking anyone who says homosexuality is wrong.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

"Attacking anyone who says homosexuality is wrong"

More like exposing the hypocrisy of those who say they want liberty, but want to dictate specific people's lives. Are homosexuals personally interfering with your life? Do they walk up in droves to your home and have orgies in your front yard? No? Then stop bitchin'

You don't like homosexuals - what they practice is in opposition of your tenants. I understand that. What I don't understand is why you think you should have any control of that. Is it not good enough to just disagree with them? You have to tell them they can't do "this" or "that"?

Did Jesus dictate people's behavior? No. He provided guidelines for people and allowed them to make their own decisions whether to follow them or not. God gave us free will for a reason. You think you know better than him?

And don't dodge by saying "that's not what this thread is about" - chick, I know your agenda, I know your posts, I know what you're about. One might almost call you a "light Rick Santorum"

IF you would have read the article, you would have known that

it WAS exposing the hypocrisy of opponents of same-sex marriage.

Secondly, Telling someone that their behavior is wrong is exactly what Jesus did. That's why they crucified Him.

And the 'Rick Santorum' insult was the lowest blow I've received in a while. I would say many of you here know and care nothing about God, free will, or even true liberty. You are not libertarians, you are libertines. You don't want anyone to even SAY (freedom of speech by the way) any behavior or vice is wrong or harmful.

I am no anarchist, because I believe in a supreme law giver. But, I am probably a proponent of a smaller civil government then most of you can even imagine. I have never said homosexual marriage should be outlawed--I don't think the government has any business in marriage whatsoever. The only things I think should be outlawed on a government level are murder, rape, and theft. And, I'm not just talk. Even though my family and I live in poverty (compared to most Americans), I have never taken a cent of government money and that includes sending my children to government schools or health clinics (which many so-called libertarians do).

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Marriage already sucks -at

Marriage already sucks -at least for most people -just saying

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

Part of the reason it does for so many

is because both parties go in to it needy, and expecting the other to fully meet their needs. To be blunt, no one person can meet all of another person's needs. To be even more blunt, if anyone tries to stay in a marriage, no matter how great it looks from the outside, without some divine intervention they are likely to fail. This is where the Christian who trusts in the finished work of Jesus has a vast advantage over anyone who is trusting in their own ability.

Flex and Colorado Sean both also pointed out some strong secondary causes why marriage can 'suck', including the stresses of unmet expectations and the constant pressure placed on us by our government. For example: if the 1950's tax rates were applied to purchasing power rather than income, the tax rate for anyone earning less than $60,000 a year would be nil.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Sounds cliche

Sounds cliche but I believe it is true that it is harder to keep a marriage and family together today than it was 40-60 years ago. The pressure can be intense & unrelenting (16 yrs experience).

Mothers (and fathers)instinctively want to provide security. Parents want to be good parents... but how can you be engaged if all you are doing is working your a** off to stay afloat? Making a marriage work takes a lot of strength.

IMO the majority of citizens are under siege. This did not exist a few generations ago. Today marriage is less than a 50-50 bet. Those are pretty sh*tty odds and it has nothing to do with homosexuals. My target are the sociopaths running our country... running it straight into the ground.

- Stay Strong.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I agree that the sociopaths are running the country

If there was no FED, and if the deductions for the 'personal income tax' were what they were back then, we would have far more buying power. Also, the focus on questioning authority of parents, and their values, but not government or its values in the public schools is no small factor, IMHO.

We will, by the grace of God! (Stay Strong) My husband and I have been married for 13+ years, hope to live to see 50 yrs together.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

We live in a culture of

We live in a culture of instant gratification. When marriage hits a rough patch, it gets thrown away. I was divorced in my young 20's from a woman that I couldn't get along with once the lust ran out. Fortunately we didn't have kids or real estate, so divorce was relatively painless. In fact I walked away with $25,000 in my savings account, while she left with about that same amount in credit card debt that she ran up after we separated. I was able to afford a good lawyer, she wasn't. Justice is for those that can afford it.

I just recently remarried, I am in my early 30's, and this marriage has staying power I believe. I am a white dude, and my wife is from the Philippines. A place where divorce is illegal, and so are abortions. A place where family means everything, and almost everyone is God fearing. My new wife is way hotter than my old one, and doesn't have a body that will balloon out, unlike my ex. We met when I was working abroad. I honestly couldn't imagine marrying another atheist American woman. I shudder at the thought.

The problem with American women is they have been raised in American culture. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to oversimplify things. There is good and bad people everywhere. If 1 in 10 American women were good wife material, it is more like 6 in 10 over in the Philippines.