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Fibonacci Cauliflower?

I received a seed catalog in the mail this week. My husband was skimming through and found this weird cauliflower pictured below, upper right hand corner of photo.

What do y'all think about this "Fibonacci Cauliflower"? I wonder how the botanists pulled this off? Anyone have insight? I find the Fibonacci Cauliflower kind of creepy and don't think it's proper for eating....????

 photo fibonnachicauliflower-1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonnaci_Sequence

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I don't know about that book

I went through it several times, following the directions exactly, but I am no closer to having my own universe than I was before I got the book.

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Also called

Broccoli Romanesco.

Take some Magic mushrooms and then eat it.

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I've had it. Doesn't taste as

I've had it. Doesn't taste as good as regular broccoli/cauliflower in my opinion, but definitely fun to look at.

Vihart does an excellent video on fibonacci sequence in nature

She goes over this very phenomenon in a unique fast pace entertaining way
I highly recommend her many mathematical videos:


Part 1 http://youtu.be/ahXIMUkSXX0


Part 2 http://youtu.be/lOIP_Z_-0Hs


Part 3 http://youtu.be/14-NdQwKz9w

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Automathecially?

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Those were awesome

Thanks. Now I have to watch her other 100 videos... :)

I watched a documentary last

I watched a documentary last year about crop circles that referred to this. I think it claimed that all cauliflower did this. Something about vectors... was interesting. Called 'Thrive.' I was in a less skeptical mood than normal and it was pretty well produced.

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I don't think it's creepy

It's a fractal. Eat it and you'll get better at math. Magnificent!

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Nope..Not another frankenfood

This is actually Romanesco broccoli.. I tried to grow it in my garden last season and failed. It's beautiful. I can't wait to eat one.

It is very tasty!

Besides beautiful, this Veronica coil flower is very flavorful. The shape is too complex to be man-made. It has what looks like an infinit sets of Fibonacci. I ate, I like it and sour ivied at least 3 years after I ate it.

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Nature by Numbers :)

Nature by Numbers :)


http://youtu.be/kkGeOWYOFoA

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I'm thinking on this now and wonder

if perhaps aloe is Fibonacci? I guess all Bromeliads besides pineapple are too?

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That one variety looks like it should have thorns on it

Like a cactus. No thanks

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That just seems so neat

Like eating math.

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Fibonacci

is found in nature, probably a lot more than we even realize...

random links by searching "Fibonacci in nature"
http://britton.disted.camosun.bc.ca/fibslide/jbfibslide.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/fibonacci-na...

This one shows some sweet images.
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/fibonacci-sequ...

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Yes, there's the aloe :)

Thanks for that

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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Click on "Vegetables and Fruit"

http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci...

It seems all cauliflower reflects Fibonacci numbers. That "Romanesque" strain (apparently part broccoli) just makes it more visible.

But, yeah. It is odd. And I'm with you. It doesn't look appetizing to me.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Ah I had no idea

I knew about sunflowers and pineapple but wow, it appears the sequence shows up a lot. I've never studied a cauliflower that closely. So now I guess my question is...do these cauliflower show up naturally? I've never seen it....doesn't this mean some botanist fiddled with it?

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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It's not a different specie, but yes,

the result of botanists fiddling around.

By the way, I knew I knew that cauliflower from somewhere, but in some other context. Ah, yes. I found it, if you can maybe only tell with a larger picture - an example of fractals (in nature): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fractal_Broccoli.jpg

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Cauliflower has been

fiddled with by botanists since before we had a term for them. Humans have fiddled more with green veggies than they have dogs.

But the Fibonacci was still natural in that the fiddlers weren't aiming for it. They were breeding for other features and managed to pack the head so tightly with their selection that some kind of order emerged to fit more. That or the order was already there and packing the head tightly ensured this kind of order would prevail.

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It is natural. The Golden Ratio shows up all over in nature


http://youtu.be/085KSyQVb-U

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OR perhaps, right now, We ought to, eh?

Somewhat lengthier than what most folks will likely easily watch, but, oh well, here goes...

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I get that it's natural but this case (cauli) seems exacerbated

I knew about pineapple and sunflowers etc already. I never realized with the broccoli and cauliflower I guess because it shows its pattern in miniature and you have to be purposefully looking for it. I've never seen this version of cauliflower before in my life, have you?

Well then, this "Veronica" version of cauliflower seems "blown up fibonacci" and now my next question then is how good it is to tamper with God/nature in this way?
???

I'm leery of it. Could just be my ignorance of the subject.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Seriously though...

I would eat the Fibonacci. I have not yet tried it, but it seems not just popular for its nutty appearance, but also for its nutty taste. It is not GMO by the way, but is simply a multi-generationally inbred result of broccoli/cauliflower hybridization. Yum-yum!

Maybe it's just the way it looks

...I'm not crazy about the colored ones either, but couldn't hybridization be troublesome to our innards?

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Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
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That's a mighty worthwhile question.

I'm inclined to say yes, it could. I'm also though, inclined to say that it's probably more often beneficial than not. Most of what we eat was consciously seen as hybrid at some previous point in time.