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Permission To Carry.

Should I have to ask permission to conceal carry? I have always been a bit of a rebel. I suppose I should prepare to spend some time in a cage for living the true nature of the 2nd amendment. What would you guys do?

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You shouldn't have to no.
But for now, it is a bad idea not to.
1 screw up and you will be denied ownership or buying another gun.

So say you do carry, get poped, guns get confiscated, then they really cross the line and it is time for armed revolt.

So wheres your gun brotha?

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Second amendment suspended for an indefinite time.

The second amendment was written to protect the citizen's rights as individuals or organized groups (militias). "...shall not be infringed" was meant to be an absolute guaranteeing the right to bear "arms," not shotguns or hunting rifles but "arms" in its broadest definition to prevent the federal government from becoming more powerful than the citizenry.

As an individual you have the right to defend yourself by whatever means necessary and to carry such means upon your body, however, governments have compromised that and now we have to deal with cops who believe their power outweighs your rights, and, guess what, it does.

The odds are in your favor that you will never be challenged by a cop or have to use a firearm for self defense. It's your call, but, you'll be carrying concealed without a permit at our own risk and prosecution if caught.

In Michigan our State Police have issued a legal update. Visit the site. I think you'll find it interesting as Michigan has very tolerant gun laws, especially open carry, which I do every day, weather permitting.

"Officers are reminded that the Fourth. Amendment protects citizens from unreasonable searches and seizures. Carrying a non-
concealed firearm is generally legal. Officers may engage in a consensual encounter with a person carrying a non-concealed pistol;
however, in order to stop a citizen, officers are required to have reasonable suspicion that crime is afoot. For example, officers may not stop a person on the mere possibility the person may be carrying an unregistered pistol. Officers must possess facts rising to the level of reasonable suspicion to believe the person is carrying an
unregistered pistol.

"Officers are also reminded there is no general duty for a citizen to identify himself or herself to a police officer unless the citizen is being stopped for a Michigan Vehicle Code violation."

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Is not a concealed carry permit registration?

and isn't registration step one toward confiscation? I just can not reconcile those two items.

More C@liforni@ns To Get "Permission" Soon

9th Circuit just ruled CCW regs in C@liforni unconstitution@l:


I carry always.

I also have 2 concealed handgun parmits issued from LA and FL. I originally acqired a non-resident permit from FL becasue it was cheaper, lasted longer and had less requirements. Also, Louisiana has reciprocity so it would be valid in LA and 3 more states than Louisiana's permit at the time. Well, Louisiana legislators quickly discovered that they were losing revenue from residents due to this and passed a law that made out of state non-resident licenses invalid for residents of Louisiana. Needless to say it pissed me off and after pleading with my rulers for a while, I jumped through the hoops and got the Louisiana permit.

Now, keep in mind I carry anyway. Always...even in defense free zones because I'd rather be alive and in trouble. That being said, I will continue to keep my concealed handgun permits valid. Not because I feel I need permission from the state, (the stunt with the out of state licenses really woke me up)but because I travel to lots of states that honor Louisiana's permit but have vastly different and confusing gun laws. For example, open carry is illegal in Texas. There are some stipulations to carrying firearms in your vehicle (unless you have a permit) that I am not familiar with and frankly don't care enough about to learn and comply. Mississippi requires that when transporting firearms the ammunition be in a separate compartment...whatever that means...unless you have a permit.

Anyway, I have them so that I can travel and not be harrassed for breaking some obscure law that I don't know about in another state. The whole of the matter is, if they revoked my permit tomorrow, I'd still carry just like I do now. Always and everywhere. I'd rather ask forgiveness than permission. Also, in LA, although it has not been challenged yet, in 2012 the rulers passed and the people voted to amend the constitution to in essence grant us constitutional carry. Hence anyone charged with "illegal carrying of a weapon" in LA now has very strong constitutional grounds to challenge the charges.

i carry

i carry when i feel i need to. i have no "license" other than my UNALIENABLE right to protect myself.

from an individual standpoint: you are better alive and "in trouble" than dead and gone...

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Vote with your feet. Move to

Vote with your feet.
Move to a state that does not require a permit, such as Arizona.



"You only live free if your willing to die free."