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Debriefing on Freedom Summit 2014

Freedom Summit 2014 in Phoenix went both as advertised and as expected in the sense that it was tight-knit and not a lot of observers. It was all activist leaders. It's a reminder that even in our age of video conferences and instant communication, we still have to sit together, to eat together, shake hands, hug and do the hang to really gain that insight and confidence into who we are as individuals. As far as the resultant trust factor in immediate terms, a really sneaky thief could have made off with dozens of pricey electronic devices (we all just left our stuff pretty much wherever somebody was last using it) but they would have to have been sneaky indeed. The very subtle security of us verifying who we are and our history was reinforced by some of our brothers taking it on themselves to open-carry and kinda reassure us against extreme trouble.

No way to recount all of the speakers and fortunately I think it's gonna be up on Youtube soon. Tons of highlights, the Will Grigg vs. Larken Rose debate was classic. Judge Buttrick was deeply profound. Patrick Byrne in the same room was like...WOW MAN. Got a minute with him. Cody Wilson, holy cow ok the guy is smart but, no, actually he's BRILLIANT, many others but if you want the boil down it's as such:

Some of the elders had some blunt news: we are growing faster, stronger and better than ever but our opposition is growing tools and new capabilities faster than we can keep up. The deduction: conflict is coming. Conflict is here. This was received by grassroots (fringe, you know the guys Jesse Benton hates, us in other words) elements that basically returned grit, conviction and determination. On top of this was the bitcoin thing which returned a sort of YES WE CAN and YES WE ARE and YES WE'RE GONNA.

In short, Freedom Summit organizer Ernest Hancock promised TOMORROW'S SOLUTIONS HAPPENING TODAY and this was the dialogue and all levels from whales to us up to our elbows in the soil of this land were represented. In a very tribal type of environment I would say but the terms community and family work just as well.

To throw my personal views in there, I was happy to have a lot of interest in South American alternatives for relocation/expatriation, backup plans, medical care, asset protection and in general saying we have alternatives, stand and fight/die is not the only or inevitable course, it need not be our destiny. Some will stand and fight but others must find ways to preserve our values and promulgate them in new settings. This means going above, around and under conflict. Our opposition seems all powerful but our creativity is breaking convention too. We keep coming up with solutions. And the emphasis we're placing on youth-leadership is paying off right now.

I imagine the best place to see some of the media that will come out will be Ernie's banner site FreedomsPhoenix.com. I'll have some more specific debriefings to follow, escpecially where we're going with medical care. Our response to Obamacare is we care.

Eyes now shift to Texas Bitcoin Conference to see where that whole ride leads. Quick heads up on that? Say calving ground for whales.

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And then this other thing happened....

so there is this dude in the Dominican Republic, he's part of my little vast growing network and guess what? His son is into bitcoin and guess what happens next? I tell his son who I hung out with at the Summit and he's like NO WAY DUDE I HANG OUT WITH THOSE GUYS!

And he's talking Drew and the boys like they were all in short pants, they are all young and hip and fashionable and it's like hey kids, your dad and me have been talking about this Latin American investment thing this whole time and we never even realized how closely connected we were even at that moment. And it's just so freaky and I'll tell you what it's like;

It's that same feeling all over again. It's the wave, it's the rush, it's the energy and exhuberance and the muscle, the power we have and in these early stages we're never more than a couple of steps away from each other, the same names keep coming up and up like "I was just talking to so-and-so and it's like DUDE, WE JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE, YOU EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE...IN THE SAME 10 MINUTES and so this trust circle is building one again so fast and...

this is how we do it people. This is it. This is how we keep our edge. Because we are the innovators and they are in a reactive mode. You think they have ever out-thought us? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE. They didn't see us coming with Aaron Russo's America: Freedom To Fascism, they didn't see us coming with Ron Paul, they didn't see us coming to defend people from foreclosures, they don't see us coming not only with bitcoin but off-grid, a multi-billion dollar industry in prepping, billions of firearm sales (molon labe baby), they are running around trying to plug leaks in their bucket. We have trust, understanding and love. And love babies, the 3VOL is and will always remain the greatest power in the universe. And almost every single one of their human resources assets are in it for the paycheck and nothing more.

The hired guns work for top dollar. Always have, always will. Doesn't matter, we are among those who gave up safety and reassurance long ago. We're in it. There are those that just want to be left alone and there are those who just won't leave us alone and that describes the whole of human politics and economy at this juncture. We know and they know exactly who fits into what position in this happily simple equation.

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ICONOCLASTIC is the word

I, too, attended this event - both days, plus the Reception.

I begin by thanking Smudgepot for being such a great guest at my home on Friday night. My family truly likes you, man, and that is a good reflection on you - I only have two friends that they don't sneak the StinkEye at, if you know what I mean, so it shows what a good soul you must have.

I have posted my photos from Saturday, and the few from Sunday, on our Phoenix Liberty MeetUp Group website, and linked them through the page I edit at Freedom's Phoenix. You can view them here: http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/150592-2014-02-17-freedo...

I say Iconoclastic is the proper description for this event because for anyone just becoming aware of these things definitely had their current worldview SHATTERED, because these people not only didn't hold anything back, they didn't even try to candycoat it a tad.

And they literally at times forcefed the info in, whether it was Butler Shaffer speaking so low you had to lean in to hear him (great tactic) or Larkin Rose raising the decibel level a degree.

As Smudge stated previously, the YouTubes should be forthcoming very soon and I urge everyone to view as many of them you can get your hands on. There's no way other than write for two hours to try and relay a small part of what was imparted to us this weekend, so I will share two things:

Sunday for lunch we heard from Meghan Kellison on the subject of BitCoin. When she explained about the anonymity of its usage, Quartzsite Mayor Ed Foster (who sat at my table) made the quiet remark "then how can I collect sales tax!?!"

The other 'precious moment' came also on Sunday, when Rosa Koire (the person I was MOST impressed with out of all the Speakers) took to the podium to speak on Agenda 21. Ernie asked her something to which she shook her hair out of her eyes, leaned into the microphone, and replied "Man, I haven't asked Daddy for permission since I was eight!"


As usual, my favorite portion of the weekend was in the ~*LAVISH*~ Suite Ernie had set up for the participants to make the most of each others' company after the Saturday night lineup had concluded. I got to hug and schmooze friends I haven't seen in a while, and met new people that I clicked with right off the bat. I love when that happens. I left around 12:30 am, and there was still about ten people yakking it up here and there. What a fabulous time.

If you EVER get a chance to attend one of these events, by all means DO IT! Take the time to go and do, as Smudge said. Meet. Break bread.

Be Family.

Ed in Phoenix.

p.s. for those who don't want to wade through the photos for the one of Smudge, it's here: http://www.meetup.com/Freedom-Summit-2014/photos/20176032/33...

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

Since we're naming names ED VALLEJO THE PSYCHICI TAXI

my earlier reference to the protective prescence of Oath Keepers was officially represented by Ed.

Ed also happens to be my LT when we do movement mass gathering logistics/security.

So exactly how safe did I feel?

Like a babe in arms. Slept the sleep of the untroubled. Ed should charge for that.

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Did I name any names?

You got mad at me last time I used your real name in print or media, so I used nom de plumes to identify your photo...

Fess up.

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.


How would you assess the numbers and ratios to converted verses new interested visitors. Sometimes these things can be a kind of preaching to the choir.

A good choir needs rehearsals?

Ladies and gentlemen once again my good friend Helios who is an expert small business and home-based business developer. He has this whole toolset that covers the span of startup to marketing and fundraising and even MLM aspects which actually makes sense in this sphere. We ain't exactly selling kitchen knives or stain removers here. He's really good for those of us who envision a "working expatriation" to South America and other places. He's also an expert on Ecuador. Check him out at


Anyways as stated, the value on this one was not on preaching to the choir or even building it's numbers. This was our chance to extend OUR network. What we found is we all knew each other through just 3 degrees of separation max and we just squashed that down to one. So it was a combo of people that have known each other for years and people who knew we're gonna meet for years and now....

it just happened under a whole new program.

GOP? USA elections? Huh? Who ever heard of such a thing? Honestly we got a new language going and we forgot those words. Democrat/republican wasn't even on the agenda, keeping our Apple/iPod people in the bitcoin loop was an actual imperative. Welcome to Generation Next.

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would definatly appreciate

would definatly appreciate the youtube vids, when they start coming, especially the larkin debate

That was the fun part. I think Cody Wilson will blow your mind.

Here's a dialog between radial freedom which brings in anarchy and threat to state status quo all in one.

What Cody spoke about it radical in our terms and in terms of our opposition. For anybody with database or high level logic/decision making experience it's not a surprise to hear that we are, absolutely, already, now, happening, happened, done type of on PREDICTIVE DATABASE DRIVEN ENGINES. From there he made the hop into medical science and genetics (tie-in being how massive computing power which we micro-assemble as bitcoin miners & etc.) is the kind of stuff required to not only crack genomes but assemble them as desired. Desired by somebody else. Someone not-us. However Cody's angle isn't really about resistance, it's about creativity and hope and optimism.

Contrast this with some bitcoin whales who are all about normalizing this to fit as closely as possible with reporting/accountability/government control models as fast as possible and again, argument on. Some of us want this to be accepted BY GOVERNMENT and some of us view the very thought as CAPITULATION.

I'm on the fence, one leg on both sides but I see this as purely as discussion of SCOPE. Is bitcoin in and of itself gonna lead up to a stateless condition of freedom? Well hells no, it's not that simple, it never is. I don't see bitcion as attacking government on a real or existential level I see it as the opposite, I see it as liberating governments and people from one thing: global bankers. And not like they don't have a role to play in a bitcoin tolerant economy. They can facilitate certain transactions and provide liquidity to a set of clients in this paradigm. Simple deal to me: leave us alone and I'll let you alone. We know they won't take this deal, they won't give an inch without a fight and they are fighting against us right now.

That kinda sets the stage. As always our "opposition" is such because they oppose us and what we want to do and how we want to do it. We're chattel in their control model. They like it this way. Any question, any new idea, any solution is their property in their minds because WE ARE PROPERTY TO THEM.

So. The question remains as to what role bitcoin will play but that it has a continuing role is clear. Time will tell if this is an evolutionary leap or a stepping stone.

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The Larkin vs. William Grigg debate

was comical. OK:

NOW ENTERING THE ROOM: Mr. William Grigg, noted scholar and acclaimed author, Husband, Father, Christian. Mr. Grigg walks with a simply ministerial air. Ministerial as in Pastoral in the clerical sense: he is a Shepherd and he is as gentle and graceful as he is dignified and an aura of AUTHORITY settles about him like a mantle. This man is a king of the MLKII tradition and style. The room swoons in awe and respect.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd in this corner here's Larkin Rose in his boots, jeans and butch t-shirt, he's young, he's buff and he's known to be rough and ready. He eats nails for breakfast, he sweats them out with tequila for lunch and he can shoot the eye out of a fly at 50 paces. Twice. Same eye.

And here's the bell...and the combattants come out with inflatable swords. I mean that wasn't softball, that wasn't even whiffle ball, that was the Nerf version of a smackdown. What did you expect from two men who truly respect one another? Not the kind of politician act nice to get along respect but the real kind. Forget about the points made, you already know them. That was just watching an elder and a young buck pass a ball back and forth and the idea was to keep it in play not make the other guy drop it.

Not much of a debate as such. Would have made better youtube to have a bunch of us forming a wall to defend Mr. Grigg while the Oath Keepers and guardians dragged Larkin off kicking and screaming LET ME AT HIM I'LL KILL HIM and foaming at the mouth but...

alas....it was what it was.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Thank you for the update Smudge

I hope one day to make it out there, when the time for me has ripened.

and i hope you get that

and i hope you get that standing ovation you deserve, in bringing not a small amount of us together :)

Im not joking

Meaning when you are old and grey and bent over

like Smudge? Must we all wait till we are old to be young?

Wait a minute dude...why don't you speak?

I'm not gonna tell you ABOUT the after hours party Saturday night, I'm just gonna tell you there was one and you weren't there. Just gonna let you think about that for a while.

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Thanks for the report.


Nice debriefing

Concise and informative. Keep it up, I am interested in the work of these activists, and the reception of your South American ideas. Bitcoin sounds very promising as well, provided we can expand the acceptance of bitcoins.

It's certainly being attempted

The bitcoin rollout is happening everywhere. I wish it was happening faster for Argentina. Live demonstrations are being discussed, bitcoin parties where fractions of coin are bounced between accounts, transactions made in realtime where whole groups can see it.

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Debbie's picture

Very interesting comments and oversight -

Thank you!


Why you are most certainly welcome.


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