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Update: Fracking Is About To Go Down In America ~ Industry Insiders Are Turning Whistle Blower


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Update: Pa. Supreme Court will not reconsider Act 13 decision
The court issued an order today simply stating, “the application for reargument or reconsideration of the opinions entered by this Court on December 19, 2013 is denied.”

http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2014/02/21/pa-suprem...
Josh Fox is coming out with a new documentary filled with whistle blowers who point out where the bodies are buried -- literally.

I just had a phone call from a man who spent several days filming with Josh Fox.
They not only interviewed these whistle blowers, the whistle blowers took them, on camera, to sites where they were paid to bury materials from unreported spills and cuttings (by-product of drilling) that are loaded with deadly toxins.
It's going to be a blaster.
And these same whistle blowers have brought suits against the drillers and the DEP.


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That's right

but as long as they can kick the can down the road they don't care. We are dying from acute environmental destruction. On many fronts.

"Methane-rich gas commonly occurs in ground water in the Denver

http://archives.datapages.com/data/bulletns/1982-83/data/pg/...

From a report dated 1983 - before fracking.

"Methane-rich gas commonly occurs in ground water in the Denver basin, southern Weld County, Colorado. The gas generally is in solution in the ground water of the aquifer. However, exsolution resulting from reduction to hydrostatic pressure during water production may create free gas, which can accumulate in wells and buildings and pose an explosion and fire hazard."

Dont blindly believe some guy with a camera who, like the Matt Damon film, is possibly backed by other oil producing countries that don't want to see the USA become energy independent.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

He is a fraud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9CfUm0QeOk

The link above is of the guy getting called on his BS. The video where the people could light their water leaves out certain facts. people in that area where able to do this as far back - before fracking - to 76 and there were even reports of it happening naturally back in '36.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Josh Fox is no Fan of Liberty or Truth

I would strongly encourage everyone to research both sides to this story. If you've seen Gasland you should, alternatively watch Fracknation. Unfortunately, a competing opinion is not what HBO, Josh Fox, OPEC, Russia, Yoko Ono, Matt Damon, the Sierra Club, Green Peace, etc. want. If you want to watch Fracknation, you'll have to watch Mark Cuban's (a truth seeker) Channel AXS.

BT- I'm sure you'll respond to me with some over the top response calling me a schill for oil and gas or a flat earther. You'll probably have some anecdotal cases where something supposedly happened somewhere. The truth is, I appreciate a dialogue on the subject; you don't want a dialogue, you want to ram this liberal big gov't agenda of banning a 60+ year old process down our throats. Libertarian until you don't like what someone else does?

Here are a couple of articles you might find interesting...
American Thinker
The Foundry
A Line of Sight
FrackNation Trailer

If this becomes a figurative shouting match between us, you will win. But I would be happy to have a debate with you regarding geo-politics or the science of hydraulic fracturing.

Peace,
Zach

Thank you. It amazes me how

Thank you. It amazes me how many people blindly follow these crazies.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

More_Liberty, You're Right

I thought my wife was crazy when she told me the Federal Reserve wasn't a federal agency...
That it was owned by "private shareholders" like the private bank I worked for BBH Co.
Nuts!

And the IRS wasn't a federal agency and get this, it was incorporated in Puerto Rico!
Ha!
CRAZY!

And being a Vice President with Bayer Corp, she told me there were "economic hit men" that traveled the world getting whole countries indebted to American bankers and forcing those countries to have huge infrastructure projects built by American corporations, you know, just to keep the money in the family so to speak.
Insane!

Oh and here's the kicker;
She told me that the FED just printed money out of thin air!
But that was you know, like 12 years ago.

I guess I owe a lot to "crazy" people...
Right a-s-s-h-o-l-e?

Sorry, You left yourself open and I couldn't resist.

Thank you-

I have a lot of respect for the DP community and whomever else regularly lurks the site. I consider myself much of a lurker here, but I do tend to comment when I notice people advocating something outside the values of libertarianism.

I know there are a number of O&G workers here regularly. I also know a disproportionately high number of people I work with (in O&G) are huge Ron Paul supporters. There has been a lot of disrespect towards those people who actually create something for a living. A viable commodity that is used to make the world a better place. The site's motto is Peace. Gold. Love. Guess where gold comes from? The ground. It's mined. We could outlaw all mining (drilling included) but the truth is, we would all be poorer for doing so.

O&G isn't a perfect industry and there are legitimate libertarian claims to be made against it (ie corporate welfare), but we produce something real that fuels the global economy and enriches people's welfare.

Cheers, More_Liberty.
Zach

backed by the UAE?

This guy is a fraud but it's his right to be a fraud in America. I wonder if he was also funded, like Matt Damon's promised Land, by oil rich Arab nations such as Image Media Abu Dhabi, a subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Media - owned by the government of the UAE. It is no surprise that the rich oil states such as the UAE and Saudi Arabia are nervous as hell about the USA being able to produce its own energy and even become a major energy exporter.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

This guy again. Will Matt

This guy again. Will Matt Damon be in this sequel?
Why is he just now complaining about the cuttings from fracing?
When drilling mud has been used FOR DECADES on traditional wells and in advanced recovery methods for mature wells?

Southern Agrarian

How many liars would show up for fifty bucks each?

If I ran a Craigslist asking for people to show up and tell a lie about fire coming out of their faucet?

I'll bet I could get thousands of people to tell how uncle Jack got cancer right after the fracking people showed up and molested little Tina...

It's the same Chicken Little hit in the head by a different acorn.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

You shoot from the hip and end up looking...

Well, If it's any consideration, the industry's own studies are reporting a 48% well casing failure rate.
That's measurable, unlike many geological opinions.
So lethal stuff that has no business being near living things
(at concentration levels that would make a nuclear bomb builder envious) is coming up from a mile or more below the earth's surface and killing whatever it comes in contact with.

And regarding money?
My phone call this morning was from a guy who was paid $1.5 million by Range Resources to STFU. He had them by the balls for the damage they did to his $2 million farm. The workers even broke into one of his barns and stole a Bobcat and got it stuck in mud.
A judge hammered Range and told them my buddy could tell anyone he wants to about the settlement.

One unsubstantiated statement at a time.

The lawsuit had actually been filed by Range when Ron Gulla failed to turn over the deed to the property after signing a sales agreement. Gulla claimed Range had agreed to help him purchase another farm but failed to disclose that there was an oil and gas lease on that farm. Range denies that claim. Gulla does not have any paperwork to support the claim.

Mr. Barracuda:
1. What studies show a "48% well casing failure rate"?
2. concentration levels "high enough to make nuclear bomb builders envious". What levels of what?
3. Stolen Bobcat. What are the names of the perps? Did Ron Gulla press charges?

Without spending a lot of time researching, it seems that Range Resources offered him a land swap or 1.5 million dollars.

They bought his farm and he sold it voluntarily to them.
State of Pennsylvania inspectors could find no evidence to back any of Ron Gulla's pollution claims.

Gulla appealed the suit to the Pennsylvania Superior Court. When he lost there, he appealed it to the state Supreme Court, which denied his appeal in November.

Range Resources denied doing anything worse than making a muddy mess on the farm, pointing to state inspections that revealed no fracking contamination of the pond. Nevertheless, the company eventually paid Gulla $1.5 million for the farm, then sued to get him off the property after he accused the company of reneging on a land swap that would have provided him with a comparable property elsewhere in Washington County.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Citizendave, You got the spun version

The lawsuit had actually been filed by Range when Ron Gulla failed to turn over the deed to the property after signing a sales agreement. <---This statement proves Range tried to bully Gulla after they lied to him. And that is proven by this statement.----> Gulla claimed Range had agreed to help him purchase another farm but failed to disclose that there was an oil and gas lease on that farm.
Range denies that claim.
Range denies everything. They are proven liars.
Gulla does not have any paperwork to support the claim.
There is pending litigation against the realtor on this part. Gulla is suing Range again. He doesn't give up. And he doesn't lie.

Mr. Barracuda:
1. What studies show a "48% well casing failure rate"?
Just got that statistic this morning.
2. concentration levels "high enough to make nuclear bomb builders envious". What levels of what?
At 5,000 feet, the radiation levels from uranium and the salt concentrations alone are enough to kill anything. That's just two. Go do YOUR research.
3. Stolen Bobcat. What are the names of the perps? Did Ron Gulla press charges?
Gulla responded to a knock on his door in the middle of the night. It was the guy who took his Bobcat looking for help. Gulla being a trusting, helpful human being went out to help him. Turns out the guy got his truck stuck. Broke a window to get the Bobcat out of the barn. Took the Bobcat and got it stuck. Gulla discovered all this in the process of responding to him asking for help. It's been over three years since Gulla told me about it so I don't recall if he just told the guy to get off his property or if he called police. I do remember the guy was young and Gulla had a merciful tone when he told me about it. And he said the kid had just come in from out of state that night. None of this chatter matters. The industry and the government are screwing the people of Pennsylvania over. I personally don't care if you believe me. Time has been bearing everything out. And when Josh Fox's new film comes out you'll see. It's finally gotten to the point where enough employees and sub-contractors are getting sick and being betrayed by the drillers.

Without spending a lot of time researching, it seems that Range Resources offered him a land swap or 1.5 million dollars.

They bought his farm and he sold it voluntarily to them.
State of Pennsylvania inspectors could find no evidence to back any of Ron Gulla's pollution claims. Lie

Gulla appealed the suit to the Pennsylvania Superior Court. When he lost there, he appealed it to the state Supreme Court, which denied his appeal in November. True

Range Resources denied doing anything worse than making a muddy mess on the farm, pointing to state inspections that revealed no fracking contamination of the pond. Lie

Nevertheless, the company eventually paid Gulla $1.5 million for the farm, True. They stroked a check out of the goodness of their hearts.
then sued to get him off the property after he accused the company of reneging on a land swap that would have provided him with a comparable property elsewhere in Washington County.
All spin. Range, a realtor and their well paid lawyers danced Gulla around long enough for the "response to motion filed time" to run out. That left Gulla with no standing to depose anybody. Ron Gulla's only mistake was to take people at their word.
I'll tell you what Citizendave, You go up against Range or any other company and see how long you last. Gulla is a hero. And I can put you on the phone with him anytime.

I believe in contracts

It sounds to me like Gulla signed his property rights away for a pocket full of shekels, and then when he found out the Range people had totally hit the monster jackpot on his land, he wanted a bigger piece of the action, but the corporations and the lawyers and the Judges read him the fine print. He's been pissing and moaning all over the internet, but if you check into it a little, you find he's just a giant world class whiner.

As a Libertarian, I believe in contracts. Mr. Gulla is mad about every contract he signed and has sued and taken everybody all the way to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, because he signed contracts recklessly.

Did you meet this guy in a bar?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Time will tell who the liars

Time will tell who the liars are.

I sought out Gulla in 2009 when I learned a property I was bidding on was leased. I saw an article in the local paper.

He introduced me to;
Honest testing companies,
Geological engineers,
Bob Donnan, a landscaper, who built http://www.marcellus-shale.us/ at his own expense,
And a slew of people who had damaged water supplies, livestock and health.

That property is worth shit today.
And the royalties have dwindled down to almost nothing because the production dropped way off and driller deducts all kinds of "post-production cost deductions" out of the checks.

Gulla has saved me a fortune. And he doesn't drink.

Oh and he's a grown up... not a smart a-s-s.
On second thought, let me just say that you're dick because you've made claims and accusations based on half truths and lies. So there. You-are-a-dick.

Addendum

After viewing the film on the process of hydrofracking,it becomes apparent that this also accomplishes a second beneficial thing for these industries. They get to legally dispose of hazardous chemicals they would otherwise have to pay to get rid of. This tells me that there is collusion between government & industry to engage in something illegal while reaping profit. Just like when industry came up with dumping hazardous fluoride into our drinking water under the guise of preventing tooth decay. It's time to dump all our politicians & start from scratch.

Incorrect. Those are disposal

Incorrect. Those are disposal wells.
Fracking =/= Disposal Wells.

Southern Agrarian

Its kind of like the guy that

Its kind of like the guy that came up with the brilliant idea to shoot nuclear waste at Iraqis...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

hmm...

Spent core rounds are a great idea. They just need a nice lead jacket to shield the soldiers using them.
Now the Iraqi war is a whole other can of worms :/

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

In the 70's and 80's I grew up on a small farm in upstate NY.

Every morning when starting the morning chores you had to wait after turning on the water for all the natural gas too clear out of the line. It would accumulate overnight. There was a hose that extended down from the ceiling and sometimes we would light it and crank the valve wide open. Pretty cool having a four foot flame in your hands!

Tasty, clean water

I saw the video on the internet about the water that you could light up & it kept on burning. This can't be good for human consumption. While there are many things that are flammable, I believe that most are products of oil refining. Nobody would drink gasoline or oil. Why should industries be introducing hydraulic chemicals that can leach into the water tables in order to extract them easier? Where is the research? These chemicals have to be of a higher viscosity in order to crack rock. In other words , they have to compress less than water. That's why they use oil in hydraulic jacks. Where do they go after the frack? Hopefully not in my body. It's bad enough that my city of Chicago adds flouride & other chemicals to the water on top of the runoff from indutry polluting our lake. If we don't hold them to the fire, who will? Certainly not Chicago politicians. Most certainly not Washington politicians as is evidenced by this film.

The video was a fraud.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/04/the-gasland-movie-a-fr...

"Fox’ documentary Gasland, claims that fracking, a way of drilling for natural gas, has polluted water and endangered lives. One of the most alarming scenes is when he lights water that residents claim has been polluted by fracking."

"But then a little digging reveals a few inconvenient facts. A 1976 study by the Colorado Division of Water found that this area was plagued with gas in the water problems back then. And it was naturally occurring."

Here is the video of him being called out about his falsehoods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9CfUm0QeOk

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

excellent post..

This needs to come out.
The ONLY redress for 'oppression' by Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Oil, Big Bank coverups and trampling of small business/property rights/privacy/environment/food etc. is absolutely NOT in the 'Courts of Justice'.
It 'should' be... but it ain't.

ALL that is left for redress of 'grievances'.
is the internet and garnering public outrage... sadly (as we well know)
even THAT is not enough most of the time.
It's (always) about money and greed and complicity of Government in covering up/oppressing truth for the almighty dollar.

Fascism is indeed on steroids and we CANNOT expect justice from it.

If you ever get the time..
watch this film by Dr. Mercola on the organized oppression of one man.
Watch the first 4 minutes and you'll see what I mean.

Here is another documentary on the subject

It looks like in the rush to make money off this new boom, industries are getting sloppy and overlooking important safety and environmental procedures and this is where the issues are coming from. Definitely looks like a "There will be blood" type of scenario.

The question are:

Is there a way to do this that is more environmentally sound?
What is the impact of this vs oil and coal?
What other energy solutions can be found instead of this?

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

I am still on the fence on

I am still on the fence on this. It is hard to get any unbiased info as there are such monolithic corporate interests opposed on either side. I will watch his movie but it smells a little like an astro-turf movement.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Something to consider.

They are fracking at around 16,000 feet in this area. The train tracks run about 3 miles from my house and when it goes by it vibrates my house ever so slightly. That means that it is vibrating the fracked shale that is about the same distance down. The fracking grid covers many square miles. Do you see any possible future problems with this?

Of course we will not know in our lifetime but as long as the buck can be passed then why should they care?

In looking more at it, I

In looking more at it, I don't think it is the actual fracking depth that is the issue as much as the well casing leaking into the water table and the storage and disposal of the chemicals. I am not saying this in support of the practice, we just need to make sure we know what the problems are.

As far as the timeline, the well casing is a major concern as the cement and steel may corrode over time which provides a path for the gas to leech up into the water table.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Yes. I agree.

My point is that bad well water may end up being a small beginning to a bigger problem. I think we are only just beginning to reap what we have sown with our appetite for energy and the effects of destroying the crust underneath us will rear it's ugly head one of these days.

I think you make an

I think you make an interesting point. Personally, I don't believe the whole "fossil fuel" story that oil is from plant matter is it is miles below the ground with no other fossils etc. Which means it was created by some other force of nature and usually has a purpose as pretty much everything else in our planet does to maintain the delicate balance that allows life here on earth.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

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Expanding on that a bit

Perhaps oil is the lubricant for plate tectonics.

And you thought HAARP was an earthquake machine... :)

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