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Will the "Son of God" movie unite or divide Us? Opening 2/28 Somewhere near You.

Listening to the radio news this morning, I heard a big segment going into the upcoming movie release of, "Son of God", linking it to a series of Bible-themed movies coming to a theater near you soon. Why are much bigger audiences willing to go to theaters for this theme, rather than R-rated raunch?

I thought I'd be the first to ask, what potential impact could these well-made movies have on folks attitudes towards the things that belong to God, and those things in Caesar's image only? Here's the official trailer for, "Son of God":

Update***

I just found this musical trailer with more scenes woven in. As with any issue of faith, even those who faithfully hold to no faith at all know that art can have a powerful influence that may play loud a common moral cord, and pull similar heart strings.

When the TV series proved there is a HUGE Bible-theme audience, 20th Century Fox anted up support for this project that's about to break onto the big screens world-wide, five days before Ash Wednesday, as some would call it; and seven weeks before Good Friday, as some, well, you know...




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Actually it's not.

The Saviors Name is the Greek #2424 which is the same as the Hebrew #3091 "Yahshua", not #3442 which is "Yeshua". "Yahshua" is the name of the son of Nun and the Name of our Savior. Hebrew #3091. "Yeshua" is the name of two other OT people. Hebrew #3442.

Jesus is erroneous.

BTW I like your statement: "As far as I can tell the contribution of Jesus (Yahshua) was a proposal about how to enlarge Judaism to include Gentiles."

Basically you are exactly right. He did not create a "New" religion.

Correct! The mission of

Correct! The mission of Judaism was always to be a light unto the nations.

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I hope the religious folk enjoy the movie, or

at least see it as an opportunity to discuss their faith. I won't go see it, it doesn't seem like a movie I would personally enjoy. My tastes are more along the lines of The Last Temptation of Christ.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Unfortunately,

Just watching the trailer made me shake my head...These poorly made, ridiculously inaccurate films (and the awful TV-series - regarded by so many as a disgrace and wasted production) will probably be received in a very mixed manner. Just look at who's heading these projects.

Those who read and study the Bible are going to be appalled at the exclusions and inaccuracies, while your 'Sunday Christians' will probably love it. Everyone else will fall somewhere in-between, hopefully only regarding it as a very (VERY) Hollywood take on pick-and-choose aspects of the Bible. I hope no one takes these too seriously.

And anyone who thinks these films are great should spend less time watching Hollywood-messed-up revisionist movies, and read more of the actual Bible. The movie 'Noah' looks more accurate then this one...and that's not saying a whole lot...

I agree.

The same Hollywood that puts out its usual filth isn't likely going to make a real thought provoking religious film based on actual spirituality.

In reality, they are just going to make a emotionally charged film with a good looking Jesus running the usual miracles and crucifixion pageantry that has been pre-packaged to run the box office from all the sales of the masses of 'Christians' who feel morally obligated to see a film about Jesus.

Its the equivalent to the movies they put out about cancer survivors etc so people can foster some bastardized sense of compassion and empathy while sitting in a theater when in reality they just got a 2 hour emotional amusement park ride and will again return to there usual sheepish life of apathy by the time they open the garage door at their house.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

I hear you and feel your pain

But since we have no choice as to its release, it's good to prepare for more open discussions on Biblical faith, even if corrective, because this movie will have an obvious enough mass appeal that it will stir up many thoughts and feelings, even if misdirected.

Liberty-loving believers can better address them, if we are prepared to do so. Unbelieving patriots can also benefit from an awareness of this movie's likely influence.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Yeah, cool, yet another Jesus

Yeah, cool, yet another Jesus in film that looks like a European model. Is it so hard to believe in a Jesus who actually looks like he probably DID look? I guess it is for many Christians. I'm sure they'll watch this and STiLL want a river of Iranian children's blood to flow for their beloved Israeli apartheid fascist state.

There's more to this than style and looks

though they definitely tried to appeal to a common artistic portrayal of Jesus that is popular enough for most folks to recognize. It's not so much imparting that racial texture onto Jesus, as giving most viewers a somewhat familiar role model.

That said, I always love when objectors try to make it about the actor cast, than the way they fulfilled the toughest role they will likely ever portray. Directors and scriptwriters, likewise have their own struggles with this Role; but the actor's inner conflicts have to be weighed in, when measuring how well they accomplished what they hope to convey to their audience.

Many who profess to know Him, Jesus said that He one day say, "Depart from me, I never knew you", including those you speak of here.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I didn't mean disrespect my

I didn't mean disrespect my friend. I myself was a Christian missionary for two years of my life in a foreign country. While my beliefs have changed over the subsequent years, my respect for the general teachings and message of the Christ have remained. It is still, truly, a story that inspires awe.

The problem I have is with the fact that the majority of self-proclaimed Christians in this country are some of the most rabid supporters of war and slaughter that you'll ever meet. They can watch films like these, attend meetings, and read the Gospels, and then turn around and wish death and destruction to entire societies of human beings. It's disgusting to me and it's why I have so little respect for so many Christians these days.

I bring up the image portrayed in these films of Jesus because it's this painting of Jesus as some sexy, European-featured hunk that solidifies the idea in many Christian's heads that he's one of them, and the people they wish to see slaughtered are something OTHER THAN human, when the reality is, that Jesus looked a heck of a lot more "Arab" than he looked European.

None taken, I hear you, and agree

I have met the same kind of professed believers, and they are so removed from conscience that they fulfill the obvious application of, "Depart from me, I never knew you, ye that work iniquity"!

They think I've got a problem until I remind that the name, Christian, is only used twice in the Bible, and the second is descriptive of what they ought not be doing!

"But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
)Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
)For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" 1 Peter 4:15-17

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Oh.....

Oh....By "us", you mean Christians. Rather than those of "us" working together in the liberty movement. For a second, I thought that this might have actually been a relevant thread here on the Daily Paul.

So glad to hear your view, even if misunderstood

I knew this thread would have it's challengers and potential conflicts, so I phrased it carefully to invite peaceful dissent, both by believers and unbelievers. It's over an artistically powerful production about one of the most controversial persons ever, AND is from one of the most written-about historic/prophetic books in the history of our planet.

Like it or not, since it is about to be released this upcoming Friday, I thought a discussion about it; even a respectfully airing of some of our differences, might help ALL of us deal with this powerful, cultural, and spiritual release, that will likely have a HUGE impact on folks of ALL ages, races, political, and spiritual persuasions; for good or evil.

If you still think, -Flux-, that it's not a relevant cause for a thread on the Daily Paul, then, please, tell us what is?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

The point isn't

Whether we agree with the ideas of the film or not. We have the choice to decide whether to accept the ideas or not. Neither side needs to be upset with those who choose differently than them.

How fools from both camps justify their foolishness by twisting ideas for their personal gain is not the debate here either.

This is getting funny.

I just watched the second clip you provided. Did these people do any study before they made this movie. It seems they are just rehashing there Hollywood version.

As for your question.

Luke 12:51 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:"

Mat 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Why would His story bring people together when that is not His intention. He did not come to bring people together but to bring people to the truth.

This movie will probably compare to "The Ten Commandments". A great visual effect but Scripturally lacking. And I quote from the movie: Brenner: "Who is your God?" Heston: "The Lord is God" What? LOL I loved that movie when I was a kid but now I can't stand the blatant lies and errors it presents.

No wonder Atheists think the bible is dumb.

Middle eastern religions should be avoided

Islam is about Submission
Judaism is about Blood sacrifice - God prefers Abels goat to Cains wheat.
Christianity is based on sacrifice and martyrdom as well.

these are al ways that the council at nicea knew would make it possible to control the masses - hey , you scared of death ? Its OK, Jesus' Sacrifice saved you, now if you sacrifice yourself you will be special, like him. I'll tell you how - onward Christian soldier.

The only sacrifice is to

The only sacrifice is to believe in something greater than yourself really. Most people don't let go of their ego long enough to think that deeply. People like to play at being the God of their own little pretend world.

But about myself I will not boast, except as it concerns my weaknesses (2 Cor 12:5). Let the unbelievers seek praise from each other; I wish that which is from God alone.

Jesus' Human sacrifice

The human part of him was killed and then he rose from the dead to become God.

The Apostles, and his followers, symbolically ate his flesh, and drank his blood. Not that far from the beliefs of the ancient Aztecs.

Then to be saved from hell, you have to be washed in the blood of the lamb. The Jewish blood sacrifice coming full circle from Abraham.

you don't have to be a christian to believe in something bigger than yourself.

This movie with its anglicized language and actors, and its kitchy music, is all about how its good it is to sacrifice to be like "your saviour" - the idea that one person can save you if you make the sacrifices they say.

Division

Matthew 12:25

Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand."

What this means to us now I cannot pretend to fathom, but we are splintered into many factions. Will we continue to mock each other? Or will we stand together for the "truth"?

On a personal note. The trailer gave me chills and I can't wait to see it.

But about myself I will not boast, except as it concerns my weaknesses (2 Cor 12:5). Let the unbelievers seek praise from each other; I wish that which is from God alone.

I got chills too.

I got chills too. For me, i could use a good refreshing dose.

Not divisive, just really bad.

This is purely my artistic impression, I don't have a god belief and I think "Jesus" is an amalgum of multiple pagan god-men. However, I am fine seeing a movie of the story, it is a good story, and I welcome any piece of art.

All that said, this looks absolutely horrible! Bright smooth fabrics, very white teeth, bad wig work, a Germanic pretty boy playing a Semite. It is a story everyone knows and a movie made several times, so in my opinion you need to have some fresh spin. This looks like scenes from a bad History Channel reenactment. Based on these previews I will pass, the acting, or lack thereof, is painful to watch. Just bad.

I know standards of Americans is pretty low when it comes to movie acting, I just respect the craft too much. I can't explain enough how horrible the acting appears to be.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

The worst part

was the music, including a bastardization of Blind Willie Johnson's "the soul of a man." Because all of the stepford children that might like this movie would be scared of the honest portrayal of the song.

Here is how it is supposed to be sung. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6DIQavvBTU

Don't get me wrong.....

belief is a personal choice..... it works for some.

I believe religion should be studied as a cultural issue along with our founding documents, but as with any issue it creates extremes that repel some. Take the "Israel firsters"!

Why make a personal choice an issue or debate when there are much more serious issues that need our attention?

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

I don't get the question

Not sure I understand what you were asking. Are you wondering why I posted something in a "god" thread? If so, then I guess I would say that the topic was open-ended and I like movies. I reviewed the artistry, or lack thereof, in the movie. A bad movie is a bad movie, no matter the subject matter. I didn't make any claim about those who believe the story is true.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

This type of post is nothing but divisive!

Many of us liberty minded individuals don't buy into religious teachings.... so now we seek to cause division amongst ourselves, shooting ourselves in the foot over a personal choice issue?

We're doomed if we stoop to division on such a scale!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

Many of us liberty minded

Many of us liberty minded individuals do buy into religious teachings, and why not talk about it, why be censored?

I don't go on a thread about bitcoin and tell people that bitcoin is divisive because some of us liberty minded individuals think bitcoin is a speculative bubble. It is amazing how passionate some atheists can get over something they think doesn't exist. It also takes a great deal of faith for a person to claim to know there is no God. They don't know for sure.

A down vote.....

I rest my case!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

I think it can and will be a good thing.

I personally think the world can use a good kick in the ass. If the film is actually good and not slanted in some way, then many of us, including myself can use some renewed energy in the faith department. Yes, something as silly to some as a movie can be moving and make oneself think. Its very similar to the liberty videos and movies with hidden messages that I show people as part of my awakening process for them. I'm sure it will bring the discussion front and center like Mel Gibsons, Passion of the Christ.

Hollywood cannot make a pure form of spiritualism...

...it is necessarily tainted.

Therefore, the only thing "biblical" about it is a pegan's view of a bible story made to embed certain propagandistic goals and to make Mammon, er money.

Hence, this movie cannot be viewed as any sort of actual depiction of either the literal story nor the spiritual aspect of the story and its inclusion in the bible.

For pure hedonistic entertainment? Sure, go see it. But don't allow it to draw you in to "sides" of "arguments" about the movie, which would only be fake sideshows to the fact that they only give a shi* about raking in DOUGH - AND NOTHING ELSE.

Noah's about to make a big splash also

Bible themes are becoming popular, but will the Bible become more literal, or less, to folks because of these movie's impacts?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I am anticipating this one.

I am anticipating this one. Not sure about the actors...linter eating choice and them all but should they all be in this movie? Regardless, it should be a good one and well acted out.