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Glenn Greenwald Exposes Government-Trained and -Paid Trolls on the Internet

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

By Glenn Greenwald | 24 Feb 2014 | The Intercept

One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.

Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations”.

By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists” of using, the use of “honey traps” (luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself.

Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.

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TwelveOhOne's picture

What type of a question is this?

"Why do so many people complain about such a small place if there was not outstanding things going on there?"

It's some sort of logical fallacy. Does the following sentence resonate the same way in your head, does it make the same amount of sense to you? And if not, why not? "Why do so many people complain about Hitler if there were not outstanding things he was doing over there?"

There are plenty of wonders in the world, but there's only one country that you cannot stop talking about.

Please, please, honor your previous agreement? Or, then again, why do I bother responding to trolls? (For those who don't know, Granger had a paid account last year and her avatar image was a troll doll. Really.)

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paid account = professional DP statis

And I liked my little troll chef, I named her I LOVE ISRAEL, a place I refuse to stop talking about with LOVE, PEACE and HAPPINESS.

SteveMT's picture

Israel is sucking us dry.

Israel is what Vietnam was, Egypt was, and what Afghanistan is. All of them are leeches, parasites. They only take giving nothing back in return, and they are never satisfied until either they die or we succumb.

I don't agree

Much of our high tech comes from Israel. The money that goes to Israel is not for refugee camps and baby formula, it's for tech that allows someone like you and me to have computers.

It's our system that hurts us when it comes to getting even more in return from Israel. What Israel creates with American money, Americans get the right for patents and creating start ups.. so big corporations and rich people invest.. they buy the patents, and then, like John Galt's engine, it sits there waiting for a miltary contract opportunity because military contracts pay more than another company.. Kraft Vs Kelloggs so to speak (which have military contracts and why food is subsidized by wars too).

I guess you are right about "never being satisfied". The greatest bridge has never been built, so until then, many will continue to dream and design bridges that some will get the funds to build, inspirering someone else to build a better bridge. The paracites are the ones waiting for someone else to build them a bridge.

"Much of our high tech"

WHAT high tech, exactly? Name products Granger.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

granger, go love Isreal on

granger, go love Isreal on some neocon website.. they will agree with you. Isreal exists because we have enabled it. its not thriving. the people who live there took it from someone else who took it from someone else. It will be taken again, and then again. please prove me to that without isreal being here, i wouldnt be using a computer.. that should be great to read. and yes military contracts do cost more then other contracts, because of fraud. the government overspends on everything it buys. and the ones who get the contracts arent the best at what they do, they just know the most people in the us government.. Granger you are the definition of the DP troll. Your alone in your views, your isolated, your trying to create rifts here. Go be with your neocon friends please.

Actually, they don't

It's a mistake to think all neocons have the same appreciation for Israel. They don't.

Some are motivated by religious or spiritual interests.

WSome are moved by profit from technology that is purchased through military contracts.

Some are interested in the secualr possibilies that come from a society established in the art of self defense.

Some have been to Israel many times and others like me have yet to go, but definately lookm forward to when I go and it is on the top of my list of things to do.. though it appears it won't be untikl 2015.

We didn't "enable" Israel to exist. Zionists.. people who for all the above reasons, after WWI, began investing in Israel. Investors continue to see intellectual gold being produced in Israel, so we continue to invest; However, the world has changed in many ways.. now we are dealing with a UN Agenda, and Israel is at ground Zero, because Israel's first war was independence of the UN, so Israel's treaties and agreements are very different than everyone who is signed up with the UN and have no choice about the Agenda. That's why so many people watch Israel, though propeganda has people looking at the Palestinian conflict, which is created as a decoy. Look at Palestine and not this technology advancing humanity. We can't have Israel advancing humanity when the UN is busy watching the world go to Hell. Why be inspired when you can wax apathetic?

Seems a bunch of people from Huffington Post and The Nation have come to DP to cener, abolish, kill, those who they don't agree with. I don't agree with you or your censorship, how you stand for women being second class citizens, child rape in the name of marriage, executing homosexuals, disfiguring and raping women, or your communist agenda, which you don't even realize you support because you are so brainwashed.

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please do show me some of this intellectual gold.. I would love to see it.. I would prefer if it werent used to spy on, kill or oppress people. Thats the kind of technology we could do without. And then show me how these invention exceed those of America, japan, or china? Why they are so superior.. And I would also like to add, hitler was to the world what you think isreal is today. All of the inventions he made, ohh how superior his scientists were. We should have stepped aside and let him rule the world, he was so smart right? and on top of all this, your saying that they needed their own country to invent these things.. They couldnt live in another country and be as smart. If isreal never were a country those people would have lived somewhere else and done the same things. Why give credit to the country when its specific people who are inventors..? If all the world were just one country would we not invent things anymore? Enlighten me.

it comes in a variety of ways and means

one example, in Israel you can invest in multible start ups.. the statisical facts are, if you were to take $150K and divide that between 10 Israeli start ups, chances are you will recover your money within the year from at least one of the companies, Israel's government encourages investments, which is unlike the USA, where people are more to look for grants from government.

Israel tech is what gives you a chip to have your own computer at home, and many other applications.

It's not that they are superior, because they come from many nations, it is the pirpose, or goal of advancing humanity, and many work on that in FREEDOM.. something much of the world, and today, much of America does not have.

As for enlightening you... there is a 45 minute lecture, Harvard, "The Legal Case for Israel." What is so great about this lecture is it explains the UN treaties and what "Palestine" is what the relationships with Jordan and Egypt are, and much more, that most American didn't know. Many here won't watch it. What are they afraid of that I am not?

"Israel tech...

is what gives you a chip to have your own computer at home, and many other applications."

What specific technology "chip" are you talking about here, Granger? What product of Israel gives Americans the ability to "have your own computer at home, and many other applications"?

The Intel Chip? A new type of CPU that Microsoft uses?

Please elaborate on the claims you're making.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

I used to work with a few

I used to work with a few people from mexico, they sent all of their paycheck to their family down there, and they owned several businesses there just by investing their paychecks. So in this regard mexico is equal to Israel in investment capability. And saying that you cant invest into start ups in this country is complete fallacy. Yes people do get grants here as well as having people invest in start ups, and I guess your saying that Israel gives out no grants, who cares.
What chip are you talking about specifically? The first computers were made by two American companies. Which according to you allowed Israel to make a little chip to accommodate the invention full of little chips made by america.
I see nothing that shows the intellectual superiority that you claim is going on over there. One chip in a computer that I couldnt verify even though i looked it up. How do they have more freedom to invent and create then we do in America specifically?
And you end the post diverting attention to the debate you say people are focusing on to much... Palestine and Israel. What do the relationships have to do with the superiority of Israeli inventions and intelligence? You made bold claims about superiority and now you take it back.. Are you willing to admit that most countries that arent third world countries have contributed an equal or great amount of intellectual property and technology then Israel? Without the need for us to defend and support them against the rest of the world even?
If you choose to enlighten me again.. actually do it. Dont divert and vaguely make the same claims you did before without anything specific...
Trolololo.

Yes

I know Mexican Americans too. What does the business structure of Mexico have to do with the business structure of Israel. Mexico is very closed, where Israel is very open to foreign investment. Israel gives out many grants and scholoships, and products. The only country to register a growth of forest 20%. Amazing things they are doing thre.

Here's just one company that started in a garage in 74 http://www.zdnet.com/israel-inside-a-history-of-intels-r-and...

Israel has more freedom to create because it does not have the same regulations, taxes, conflicting laws/ county vs state vs nation, nor is it under the yoke of Islam and Authority like the UN, because it refuses to sign the treaties Clinton, Bush, Obama sign. Some say that the fact most Israeli do two years of military training before they go to college, has created a vibrant campus with students who fearlessly ask hard questions to anyone. There is a push to move beyond what is and make dreams real.

People do focus too much on a fabricated conflict rather than focus on what opportunites are being created in Israel. Rich people focus on business opportunities.. poor people focus on the conflicts.

Let me put the superioruty ussue to you like this.. I think the supreme superiority afflicted is Islam. Women have to cover themselves, clitectomies, disfiguring women, child rape in the name of marriage, execution of homosexuals, and apartide on many levels, government, religious, sexual.. mmake a joke about Moses and Jews will laugh, make a joke about Mohammad and Muslims will riot for days and then burn the town down, because they think they are so much better.

I am not willing to admit that most counties have their act together as well as Israel. No. I think most countries would fall if they had to trade places with Israel.

We don't need to defend Israel. We need to compete with Israel.

SteveMT's picture

No wonder! Israel has a $4B sugar-daddy.

It is "amazing" how much can be done with yearly tax-free gifts like that. Israel has us in their pocket. They can act anyway they want to. We got their back and their front and their sides.

Yep

And yet, Israel hasn't touched American money this year. Russia promised Netanyahu anything, China has offered money, what does Israel need America for? Won't be long and America is going to wakr up and say, "Israel should have stuck with us because we supported them." Israel doesn't need the USA and they are proving it.

deacon's picture

Then we have the great fortune

of getting to buy it back from them,at a reduced rate,i am sure
Lets add,we now have them creating startups here for drones,paid for by the american tax payer
It's always best to use other's money,instead of your own,it's almost free
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

It's already happening

It's part of the problem, as Ayn Rand pointed out in Atlas Shrugged.. John Galt invents a engine, an American compnay buys the patent, and never builds it. Israel has not used any American money this year. If you didn't know, Israel and the USA are at odds.

deacon's picture

It is happening?

Then what happened, or where did them funds go?
It was in the 2014 budget,provided by your own link

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=8527

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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

the funds didn't

Funds are sitting there as far as I know.. meanwhile Israel is trading with Africa, India, China, Korea..

SteveMT's picture

You defend your positions Granger.

I don't believe that anyone would argue against that statement. Whether your positions are correct or not is another story. You bring a different perspective here, and you make everyone rethink their positions why they (me included) disagree with you. You make us dig deeper, which is a good thing.

This place is about as free as it gets. "Censorship and propaganda" are the exceptions, and "truth and justice" are the norm. You can bring any topic that you want here. Whether it is shot down or not is for the members to show. The point is that you can bring that topic here in the first place. Peace.

Well

since I appear to be a topic, are the other stories more important than my own? To some collectives I'm sure, but as an individual, and to other individuals', perhaps not so much.

SteveMT's picture

You never miss a chance to bash Christians.

Even when this thread has nothing to do with religion.

Obama is droning Muslims who also happen to be American citizens.
Obama is droning Muslim women and children.

"Bucket loads of American tax payer money into Arab nations?"
How about the $4B/year we give to Israel?

Are you a warmonger? Do you want even more war?

Really?

Some think Catholics are not Christians, but I think catholics are christian. I'm catholic.

I'm not a fan of the federal governemnt drone form of justice.

Israel is a smart place to invest though the UN Agenda hates it.. they want to "sustain".. Israel strives to thrive. Arab nations have been under the brutal 7yoke of Allah and msi will die in vail in the name of Allah. Shame they choose to buy rockets for Israel rather than food for all those kids they're teaching to hate the USA and Israel. Western Civilization. I happen to like western civili8zation. Ban the burka.

SteveMT's picture

American also wants to "sustain" 900 bases in 130 countries.

If only this power could stay the same, the neocons would be very happy. However like the parasites that they are, they are never satisfied. The neocons want ever more power and influence around the world. They are insatiable.

All of the soldiers in Vietnam died in vain; that died in Korea, died in vain; that died in Afghanistan & Iraq, all died in vain.

All of the people what we killed on the other side of these wars, are the ones who the died for a reason. They died and are still dying for a reason, and that reason is to get us out of their respective countries.

who is the paracite?

Do you realize how many of those nations depend on the US base for jobs, school, food, and that includes here in the USA, where many military bases are what built the public schools, hospitals.

When you say Neocon.. because that term is morphed and has been changed by wiki.. what you are saying is supporter of Israel, as if Democrats did not have supporters of Israel, or if a Democrat supported Israe4l, they would be a DINO, a neocon.. correct?

I think of globalists, global government, the UN communist and Islamic block wanting more power and in the UN treaties, what many westerners took for granted and thought mid east and asia would appreicate, like democracy, is not working. It works for Israel, they are open minded and have a quest to advance humanity, but that is not true for Islam or communist industralization.

I don't agree with you that the former troops died in vain.

They died advancing humankind. Those who do not appreciate human advances resist, which I believe began when the west made deals, and when those deals fell through, they became wars. Now I think Western civilization is going to be knocked back.. Obama has been actively shutting down bases and reducing troops, and I think it will come to pass that America no longer occupies or tried to sustain western civilization, but rather, let the world grow dark, and the elite will enjoy western civilization.. the rest will see how long they can survive.

Well I suppose...

the next time you are reading blog or article comments on website, it a safe bet that some of the comments are left behind by internet trolls. Especially the ones making a false comment about a liberty candidate and don't respond back.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

SteveMT's picture

You are right about that.

When they argue erroneously or when they blindly attack without defending themselves, I believe that you now have the justification of calling them a government-paid hack or a government-paid troll. If they still don't respond , then they were. Let's poison their well for a change.

No problem---the TRUTH ALWAYS wins out

In every blog fight i've ever had!

You can kind of tell if it's a troll or not, and if it is a troll then call them a troll! Label them a TROLL. Then, move on to continue your blogging.

I believe I am affecting thousands of people who are reading my blogs every day. I know that you tell one person and he will tell 10 others, so this is really multiplying into the masses. I have noticed that people are starting to use some of my phrases and some of my words, so I know that this is working.

And, it is working for all of us that blog. No matter what they blab to the public, the truth always wins out. There is nothing that these government trolls can do about it. In fact, I would venture to say that sometimes we frustrate them, probably often times we frustrate them, and they end up quitting in frustration, or moving on to another blog.

Once we reach a critical mass, the numbers will simply overwhelm any amount of government trolls they try to hire.
So, good luck to all and---

HAPPY BLOGGING, AND HAPPY TRAILS.

If you read the article, you'll see

Its not the "trolls" that make you mad that are the government agents. as you point out, the obnoxious person that is just trying to get you angry will not influence any opinions.

The government agent is the one who will try to connect a movement with crazy, unbelievable ideas. They will try to be leaders on the site. They will try to move the discussion into areas that the general public finds unbelievable and unrealistic, or objectionable.

How often did government media try to link Ron Paul to 911-truth. And when they did, which "truthers" did they link him with ? The one with the most outlandish and ridiculous theories.

If I were a government agent, I would get on a site, get to be good friends with everyone, and agree with the dominant people in the group. Then I would start to exaggerate their beliefs on line. If there was a theory that was easily proven false, I would push it as hard as I could, and gaslight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting ) anyone who tried to bring sense into the discussion.

I doubt that the feds use the obnoxious or abusive troll very often. These are more like DOS attacks, and don't sway any opinions.

Who was it here that kept

Who was it here that kept saying Greenwald was part of a vast Communist conspiracy? Maybe she's a Fed after all.

TwelveOhOne's picture

That was Jill Booth

She is no longer riding along with us.

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