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Typical Israeli behavior - throw Israel out of any World Cup or any Olympic games

This shows how Israeli people show their courage.
What they have done to the Palestinian players speaks loudly.

Why would anyone support Israel. Are they really entitled to the land they say is theirs. It belongs to Palestine.

This is typical, read the Old testament.

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More talking points conjured by the JDL and AIPAC

"we've been at war because the Arabs, and Iranians and none of them ever intended to make a good deal."

We're at wars with "the Arabs" because we invade their land, take their oil at pennies on the dollar, bring mercenaries into their countries to start "civil" wars, and drone their Children's weddings.

But keep believing what you've never seen with your own two eyes, Granger. You've never been on the ground in the middle east so call me "skeptical" for calling you a liar and a bullshit artist.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Not exactly

The deal was made with the elite, and the elite don't give a crap about the poor, see them as chattle, and the chattle blame America because to blame the elites they get their heads cut off.

ecorob's picture

Down with Zionism!

True in the 1970's when I first heard it and even MORE true today.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

In the 70s

That must be Nixon, who came to the aid of Israel during the Yom Kipper War, at the request of Golda Mier, despite Kissinger telling Nixon, "Let the Israelis bleed". Yom Kipper War.. During the holy days, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, backed with Russian tanks, planes, bombs, ammo, attacked Israel, which took two days before being able to get it's act together, since the people were praying and fasting and never suspected such an attack was being planned.

When you begin to study Israel, you will see, that after each battle, they learned a lesson and they do not forget those lessons.. the rest of the world may forget those lessons and compare situations without the past lessons in their mind.. but it's in Israel's mind. Israel is what it is because attacking Jews has been the way of the world.

USS

Liberty. That "accident" showed their true nature.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Sure did

Showed that NSA has been spying on people who don't appreciate it, and what's worse, is the USA, my country, didn't admit they were spying where they were not welsome, and that American men had died. Not one word did America tell. Shame, really.

Shame

on you for trying to be a disinfo troll here, of all places. Shame Shame Shame!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

there's plenty of dis-info here

And it's not coming from me, though I'm sure the real dis0info trolls would disagree.

ecorob's picture

Screw zionism...

and ANY Nazi who supports it (this includes you granger, you brainwashed, uninformed Zionist zealot.

Your ignorance exposes you.

Go to your gd gop "party" and pray for the death of Palestine...that is EXACTLY what you do and why many here have very little, if any, respect for anything you say. (Witness your history of negative support)

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I understand

but I don't agree with you. I used to agree with you, so I know how you feel. It's why I'm not calling names and being all pissed off.

I don't pray for the death of Palestine people, but for their suffering, which by no falut of your own, you choose to blame Israel, but Israel as you know it, is propeganda so you will contest Israel's funding (which Israel is not taking US finding so far this year), and Palestinian funding (tents, blankets, baby formula) Palestine is like a big FEMA camp of Jordan. Palestine even flys the flag of Jordan, not Israel, so why blame Istrael, when it's Israel who gives them jobs, and much more. I know, you focus on the losses. That's not an accident, and it is propeganda, because you never get the whole of the story, except BAD Israel.

I've always been pretty independent minded. I found long ago, when you follow a group, you short sell yourself, and sometimes, it's not so easy to stand for what needs to be stood for.. back in 07/08, not too many were standing for Ron Paul at first. And I'm sure, within a number of years, the tune about Israel is going to change.. because Americans are buying propeganda that is not helping them restore the constitution or move away from global govenrment.. and Israel will be free, while America may not be.

I'm sure there will be plenty who will blame Israel for that too. Blaming Israel means, you don't know the truth. That's all it means.

Israel's time is running out.

You say: "And I'm sure, within a number of years, the tune about Israel is going to change.."

In fact the general attitude around the world towards Israel HAS changed dramatically in the past almost forty seven years, since 1967. That was when Israel occupied the West Bank, Gaza and the Sinai Peninsula. At the time I well recall that the sympathy of the Western nations at least was largely with "plucky little Israel" who had defeated much larger enemies brilliantly. This was still the case at the beginning of 1971 when I lived there for three months and worked on a kibbutz.

At that time Israel had an opportunity to deal with the Palestinians justly and compassionately and manifest to the world that what they claim to be, the chosen people of God, was justified. This they did not do. In fact they did the opposite, proving that they have no such claim. "By their fruits you shall know them."

It is as the result of that decision that the peoples of the world, with the exception of most Jews and Christian Zionists, who have been blinded by their beliefs, now oppose the Jewish state which is becoming more and more intransigent and is now committed fully to complete annexation of the West Bank and the expulsion by any means possible of the Palestinian population. It appears to me that you have come late to the party and are misinformed about the history of the region and much else.

From a scriptural perspective the people known as the Jews have indeed had a valid claim to the land of Palestine, as they include in their midst descendants of Edom/Esau who do have such a claim. This claim has been met by God and they have been given a period of grace to bring forth the Kingdom of God as a result of being justly recompensed. They have not done so, nor could they, and their time is running out. As I have mentioned to you before, the end of this period of grace will result in the destruction of Jerusalem and the collapse of the faith of many Christians who believe exactly the opposite...that God will protect Jerusalem and the Jewish State.

The "truth" you believe is a delusion and this too will come to an end. Only time will tell which of us is correct.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Oh Bull

I suggest you watch "The Legal Case for Israel" and LEARN the FACTS.

Did you read my post?

I did not challenge Israel's right to exist. On the contrary I provided scriptural support for it.

For you, international law as defined by one Jewish professor is authoritative. For me it is the word of God. In this case we happen to agree. However just as God gives, He also takes away. He has given the people who are today called Jews the right to Palestine as compensation for the patriarch Jacob's sin, in acquiring the birthright and his father Isaac's blessing from his brother Esau in an unlawful manner.

Esau's descendants are called Edom, who were incorporated into Jewry in 126 B.C. by the Maccabean ruler John Hyrcanus. They were given the option of being circumcised under the Old Covenant and remaining in their forefathers' land or being cast out of their land. They chose to be circumcised and became Jews. One of their descendants was the Idumean King Herod who was King of Judea when Jesus was born in Bethlehem. So, these Edomites or Idumeans are part of the people we know as the Jews. They have always coveted the land that was given to Jacob/Israel and now they have it and they are demonstrating all the violent characteristics of their ancestor Esau in ruling it.

In any event they are also under an obligation to bring forth the Kingdom of God, since they have had control of the earthly Jerusalem since 1967 and annexed it officially in 1980. Since the Kingdom of God is a spiritual Kingdom and they are not spiritual it is impossible for them to bring it to birth. This means they must be cast out just as Abraham cast out the slave woman Hagar and her son Ishmael when Isaac, the promised heir, was born. As the apostle Paul tells us:

Now Hagar represents Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written:

“Rejoice, O barren woman who does not bear children; break forth and shout, you who have no birth pains, because the children of the desolate woman are more numerous than those of the woman who has a husband.”

But you, brothers and sisters, are children of the promise like Isaac. But just as at that time the one born by natural descent persecuted the one born according to the Spirit, so it is now. But what does the scripture say? “Throw out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman will not share the inheritance with the son” of the free woman. Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman but of the free woman. (Galatians 4:25-31)

So you see I do not challenge the lawful existence of the Jewish State. I simply point out that the government of that State, with the agreement of most of the citizens, are not acting towards the Palestinians in a lawful manner, according to the Law of God, which they claim to hold in reverence (the Torah). It is on this account that they will be judged just as they were judged in the past and their nation and city were destroyed in 70 A.D.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

For me, it is both

It is not one or the other, I LIVE in this world and thus I do my best to be informed about the world I LOVE in, and I recognize a spiritual interest witin myself that is personal. More personal than any sexual relationship, with all due respect to what is important in this world by comparison to the spiritual world, that I don't know how sex futs in, if it does.. I guess I'm agnostic about that. Hmmm.. None the less, IN THSI WORLD politics is part of life no matter where you live.

The land is Judea and Sumaria.. if you want to talk about political authority, you call the land after the Roman Empire conquest (and Brittish succession) Palestine.. but spiritually it is SUMARIA and JUDEA.

The treaties that have made established Israel which treats Palestine very well, better than the US treats Mexico. Israel discriminates in providing energy to the West Bank and Gaza for smaller price than Israelis, Israel offers food, Israel GAVE Gaza to the refugees.. have you seen pictutres of what Gaza was when the Jews lived there? It was fantastic. Could have been a Hong Kong. But the business of "Bad Israel" is too lucrative. Too many people not seeking the truth, such as yourself.

Seems to me, that finding love for Israel is one of the greatest blessings in this life. You don't need to be a Jew or a Christian. You don't need to live in Israel or have ever gone there. You just have this cinnection, serendipity, and peace.

And I like the Israeli government. I like Netanyahu. Know why? Because he cares about Israelis. Israelis KNOW they have a leader that cares about them. How marvelous to have a leader that you KNOW cares about you. How novel.

So if we pass a law that says we can steal the Grangers land

it makes it A-OK? It's a law right??? It was done legally! Give it up Granger! Actually, I take that back. Keep it coming. You are doing more to expose others to the principles of freedom and liberty, just not like you think. In this way your dyslexia is a gift!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

UN Agenda is already writing those laws Ira

The best I can do is be informed and protect my property rights as best I can. Some things I can not control.. If six armed people came to the property during a vunerable time, I'm sure they could take my property and do with it as they wish and in reality, little I could do about it.. I'd be pretty busy looking for a place to stay nearby so I might have an opportunity to do something.

Why not watch "The Legal Case for Israel"? Why are the facts about the property and treaties concerning Israel and Jordan, the same treaty that made Israel made Jordan, which Palestine is Trans Jordan.. so why the beef with Israel? Why not Jordan? Palestine flied Jordan's flag, not Israel's.

Know why the world allows the Jews in Israel to operate as they do? You might watch the Legal Case for Israel to LEARN THE FACTS.

Didn't the UN create Israel?

?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Because when I go to the GOP events

I don't see a bunch of Jordanians trying to hijack my country. Because there are not a bunch of dual national Jordanians in high office doing to this country what they have done to their own.

You see anyone who criticizes your homeland as racist jew haters. I don't hate jews just like I don't hate Catholics. I have issues with the government just like MANY, and I know for a fact MANY Israeli citizens have big problems with the control freak zio's.

Stop being a hater, coward!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

What about

Duel Canadians, Mexicans, Iranians, Japanese, Chinese, Taiwan. and if you have been going to GOP events then you have been seeing plenty of Hispanics and Asias with duel citizenships that are getting funding adverage white boys are not, duel Israeli citizenship or not.

Israel has done an outstanding job with building a country.

I see anyone who critizes Israel as someone who was where I once was, and that's why it doesn't upset me, but gives me perspective to think about what I was thinking and how to translate that to what I'm seeing now.

I admit to hating Sharia Law, and I don't care what nation you come from or what race, I'm opposed to Sharia courts in the USA.

Name the "duel" Canadian, Mexican, Iranian, Japanese, Chinese

Taiwan citizens in our federal government. And no I do not see them at the GOP events.

In addition to liar and coward, you are a fraud!

Have your normal pathetic posting day, tool!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Arnold Schwartzennegger ring any bells?

Ted Cruz is Canadian
Michaeel Bachmann is Swiss
Off the top of me head..

I know how hard it is to search being pages of LIST OF ISRAELI CITIZENS RUNNING AMERICAN POLITICS, and I woukld think that someone like you might ask< "Why is there only Israeli?" Is it only Israeli?" But that might be too hard for you.

Ohh you might like this article http://www.biyokulule.com/view_content.php?articleid=4642

Off withe the top of yer hed

sounds abot rite

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

deacon's picture

the granger

He asked which were serving the fed gov and had dual citizenship,Not who from all over the world served in a gov capacity,and held dual citizenship
He asked which ones were from say Taiwan ect ect
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

And I names three

Arnold Swartzenegger, Michell Bachmann and Ted Cruz, and iff the top of my head here in CA Michaeel Steel, and from what I'm seeing on the entries, and PACs it appears that here in CA, we have quite a few, which I could go through all 53 counties and spend a day researching to collect names, the thing is, I don't have an issue with duel citizens, especially because I see a lack of American nationalities getting involved on a deeper level than being an uninformed voter.

I could to prove my point, and I began, but after 5 pages of searching and the feature was ISRAEL, even though I did not use the word ISRAEL, I saw ISRAEL more than anything, which again tells me, that the issue against ISRAEL is contrived propeganda, and I believe this comes from the UN treaties about fair and balanced media..

The UN has more resolutions against Israel, about 1600.. and today as people are being slaughtered, massacured, genocide, in Sudan, Nigeria, North Korea, there's not one resolution against any of it.. Syria.. we're still waiting for those chemical weapons to be accounted..

Seems those who work with the UN like to target ISRAEL, as if Israel has the only duel citizens in US government. That's not trut and that's my point. It's even common sense.

deacon's picture

HEY !!

I loved this comment from you

"Seems those who work with the UN like to target ISRAEL, as if Israel has the only duel citizens in US government."

I agree with you about the dual citizenship,I am sure the fed gov is not the only gov they are involved in
You have no problem with others,who are known to have another countries better interest at heart,because our own do not want to get involved?
Most here are for smaller government,so if there isn't enough citizens for them jobs,then maybe those departments should remain closed.
you mentioned there are 1600 resolutions on israel...If they didn't want to join the collective,then they shouldn't have joined the UN
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I'm for smaller government

It wouldn't make a difference. The only thing that would make a difference would be Americans actually competing for committee seats in elections, and the All American making an issue of his opponate's duel citizenship. I can't blame the duel citizen.. there's a seat open and they show up. The American never shows up. But the American complains because afterall they voted.

Israel didn't join the UN. When the League of nations became the UN, one of the first things the UN did, and ALL the countries agreed, to take the Brittish Mandate of Palestine and create TWO states, a Jewish state to be named Israel, and an Arab state named Jordan. Off the bat there were problems and the problems turned into wars, and within a year of the UN establishing Istrael and Jordan (Palestine is Trans _Jordan, that's why they fly the flag of Jordan.. it's actually a BIG refugee camp..Gaza too. Anyways.. the wars in 47 and 48 ended with Israel declaring INDEPENDCE from the UN.

So the UN created Israel and then Israel blew off the UN. Now they have some treaties, but they did not sign onto the UN Agenda, and that's why the US is having a problem, and the media is all about BAD Israel.. didn't we all KNOW how BAD Israel is.. and trying to find good stuff, very difficult.. you have to look, vbut it's worth it, because Israel shows us how to beat the UN Agenda.

Here's the resolutions I was talking about in a 4 minute film:

deacon's picture

United nations member states

List Israel as a member,and has been since 11-05-1949

http://www.un.org/en/members/
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Did you read it?

You got to do a little digging, actually, it's getting harder to dig, none the less, the link on Israel from the page you posted:
http://embassies.gov.il/un/Pages/default.aspx

Israel is a member, so why do they seem to have special privledges? Because they are unlike any member. The war of Independence, the UN wanted two states, it got two, Israel and Jordan, but what about trans-jordan (the west bank of Israel)? Israel is very focused on self determination, and the world in the shape of the UN is not going to stop it, though they work very hard at it.

I don't like the angle of this pdf, but it will show you that Israel and the UN have never been on the same page
http://www.adl.org/israel-international/un-international-org...

I've read some really good articles, but they are not pipping up.. also I checked some of the vids I had put on my favorites and they are off youtube. Anything good about Israel does not stay on the net for long. No one finds that suspicious but me. Amazing.

Once again your information is incomplete.

Golda Meir WAS warned about the pending attack by an agent in the Jordanian government. She decided to ignore the warning for whatever reason and the rest is history.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)