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NATIONAL SUMMIT TO REASSESS THE U.S. - ISRAEL "SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP"

Washington, DC - March 7, 2014 8AM-5PM at the National Press Club

Welcome to the First National Summit to Reassess the U.S.—Israel "Special Relationship!"

U.S. financial, military, and diplomatic support for Israel has grown significantly and steadily throughout the past 60 years and now dwarfs annual American foreign assistance to all other nations. Research indicates the U.S.-Israel "special relationship" is a major factor in foreign hostility towards Americans. Some experts suggest that Israel has been central to U.S. wars in the Middle East.

However, the huge public backlash against Israel lobby-generated momentum for U.S. attacks on Syria and Iran indicates that Americans are concerned about the direction of U.S. foreign policy, how it is made, and those trying to make it. Despite such concerns, Congress has not examined the impact of Israel lobbying influence on overall U.S. national security and international standing since the 1960s. The time has therefore come for an expert inquiry with broad American citizen participation.

This historic summit will provide an in-depth, multifaceted inquiry into this critical subject matter. Panelists will include former military and diplomatic personnel, intelligence officers, scholars, economists, researchers and a variety of other subject-matter experts and authors often shut out of key discussions in public forums and news media outlets. Members of the public will be allowed to ask the key questions and network with other attendees.

http://natsummit.org/



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We the people are the rightful masters of both the Congress and the Courts - not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.
Abraham Lincoln

The government, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. Abraham Lincoln

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

What's this, ZIO/NAZI Kryptonite?

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I haven't had time to watch very much of this--

just a small amount, and what impressed me was one statement to the effect that "the Jewish community is becoming fractured enough that we can now talk about this"--

It always has been. There are those who collectivize that: All (Jews, Muslims, Christians, Bhuddists, blacks, whites, native Americans, Asians) are/believe this and such.

Once that breaks down, and *we* begin to realize that individuals have opinions, attitudes, beliefs and individual desires and behaviors and do not represent their 'group' or not all the time. There is a silent minority, sometimes majority, that is neither radical nor ruthless--

in every group.

Finding those people who are willing to reach out to others in peace and with reason is always refreshing for liberty.

I have tried to be a moral support (I can't support them financially, because I'm already overextended) for those who have questioned the mainstream--

it has been especially hard for them (Jews who question the establishment)--

but then I try to be a moral support for anyone who questions the establishment, whatever their race or religion.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

There is a lot of heat on from all over the world

plus http://www.truetorahjews.org/our_mission check out the video on the right.
http://nkusa.org/

Also this is starting to heat up in many places http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/irish-stude...

http://www.endtheoccupation.org/

A couple of the speakers touch on it:

End the apartheid

Tear down the walls

Palestinian right to return.

One person, one vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCOxG1chTes

I have a lot of respect for the Torah Jews--

and I have put links up about them all over DP for years--

I backed off a while back, because I got tired of being attacked--

As for the Irish, there was the priest who went to Israel, what a guy. He is dead now; he was very young when he died (fell off a ladder back in the UK apparently)--

For some reason I have forgotten his name. Thanks for the second link.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

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For anyone unclear about U.S.- Israel 'special relationship'

and to those that wonder why many people question and criticize the harmful influence of the Israeli government,lobbyists and propaganda has in our elections, politicians, media, foreign policy and foreign aid as well as many other serious issues-this is an excellent, factual presentation that will help you understand. A great line up of very knowledgeable, well informed speakers!! Be sure to save and send this one out to help inform others.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?318179-1/reassessing-usisrael-r...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

The more posts, the better.

I don't know if you have a FB page, but I set up a fake one so I can get info from ifamericansknew.org and councilforthenationalinterest.org They send me good stuff daily.

Babybear, I hadn't seen your post before I posted it...great job

We're on the same page for sure.

I had never heard of "If America Knew" but now I do.

You can be sure I'll pass that one around.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

The more posts, the better.

I don't know if you have a FB page, but I set up a fake one so I can get info from ifamericansknew.org and councilforthenationalinterest.org They send me good stuff daily.

Alison's my sweetheart

when she speaks the Babybear turns to butter :)

Mrs. Weir brought it all to the table.

Any favorite speakers?

I had to stop last night, so I'm watching the rest now.

I was distracted during Dr Wawro's speech, but what I heard was interesting.

Favorite: Alison Weir, Founder of IfAmericansKnew.org

@ 5h2m5s

Regarding the vastly disproportionate amount of innocent Palestinian semites murdered by racist anti-semitic Israelis, compared to the almost non-existent number of Israelis murdered by Palestinians via rockets. It is such a significant difference, it is almost safe to say no Israelis were murdered while more than 4000 Palestinians were. The Gaza numbers she speaks of: 29 Israelis vs. 4000+ Palestinians. What is that? MORE than 137 to 1? That's fair! Indefensible war crimes committed by Israel, unless you're a zionist zio-bot who defends Israel regardless of how spiritually, ethically, and morally bankrupt you have to be to support those Israeli factions' human rights violations and certified war crimes.

Facts: http://ifamericansknew.org

http://i.imgur.com/AKHJMlh.png

Yeah, my favorite speakers, thus far

In chronological order

Ernie Gallo, USS Liberty Survivor

Mark Perry, Smart Guy, Good At Framing Concepts Simply

Marion Bowman, Top US Intel Lawyer in National Security / Espionage Cases

I just finished the 9/11 Israel answer by Stephen Sniegoski

Only 5 more hours to go lol.

Good thing I have these beer to help me along, if I stay awake that late

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/259/1708/

Cheers; sipping among the best beers in the entire world, see background Abt. 12 bottle

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Clean up your room

Clean up your room, Young's man!

BOYCOTT ISRAEL

... until such time as a full accounting and justice for USS Liberty incident. End ALL foreign aid

Is this like a Whistle Blower's Convention on CSPAN?

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Is the USA to admit it has strayed and making a Right Turn?

The USA admits it has strayed and is making a Right Turn.

This is a good thing...

Hopefully they decide to just end all foreign aid.

"U.S. financial, military, and diplomatic support for Israel... ...now dwarfs annual American foreign assistance to all other nations."

I'm not sure that is accurate though. During the Ron Paul campaign Ron Paul said we give 7 times more in foreign "aid" via FRNs to nations that are hostile to Israel, than we give to Israel.

He used this argument as reasons to convince neo-cons and Israel-FIRSTers to understand that the practice of foreign aid actually harms Israel more than helps, and is just all about keeping the conflict funded so that the global MIC may continue to reap the profits.

Ron Paul also understands, and said so in his campaign, that all the "aid" we give to Israel just allows the U.S. government elites who steal money from poor people here, to give it to their rich partners in Israel (and everywhere else that receives "aid") so that they remain in power there and do the U.S. elite's bidding.

These war-mongering globalist partners in mass-crime have seen to it that their business partners in this operation are put into positions of power throughout our government, to keep this business relationship alive and wealthy.

Foreign aid is an intrusion into the sovereignty of any nation that is receiving it.

The U.S., as a member of the U.N., have practically forced Israel to give up much of it's conquered territory throughout the past decades. Most recently you have Obama telling Israel to go back to indefensible '67 Borders, and to stop building on their own land.

It is the foreign aid and false alliance between the two governments that allows the U.S. and U.N. to try to dictate to Israel what it can or cannot do.

There is simply a private business relationship between the criminal globalist elites in both countries (and beyond) that keep this façade going.

The people in America and Israel however, are natural allies, and have love for each other. And naturally there are many who do not like Israel, and many who do not care one way or the other. It should not be on those individuals to have to pay for the globalists elites war-mongering, or even for the support of the good Israeli people. There are many, such as myself, who despise the globalist MIC criminals in any and every form they take, but who do support the Israeli people. If "aid" need be sent, let it be sent by those private individual supporters.

I believe a very large number of Americans support Israel in that way, and therefore there should be an element of our government that represents those of us who support Israel, and should represent that support diplomatically. I have no issue with interjecting our opinions into the various arguments and issues around the world. It is the interjection of force, that I disagree with. And taxing Americans who do not wish to support a foreign nation with their dollars or physical efforts is an application of force I will never agree with.

I am not anti-Israel. In fact I am pro-Israel. And for that reason and others already mentioned, I support ENDING ALL FOREIGN AID.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

this is profound--

I am not anti-Israel. In fact I am pro-Israel. And for that reason and others already mentioned, I support ENDING ALL FOREIGN AID.

No more foreign aid. I was talking with some of my neo-conservative friends recently, and the complaints about how "all the food stamps are destroying America" (with which I agree on one level)--

and all I could think of was the banker baillouts in 2008 and the massive amounts of foreign aid and the amount of $ America spends on weapons (to use worldwide and who knows where)

and the tiny amount of money that comes out of taxpayer pockets for food stamps seemed negligible in comparison--

No more foreign aid!!!

And I would go so far as to say "no more intervention anywhere"--

but I daresay that's a dream.

I'm really not pro-any country (sometimes I'm not even sure how pro-America I am, because America has such dirty fingers/agencies)--

if I have a favorite country besides America it is a country I lived in FAR from the middle east--

but I think that aid hurts more than it helps, just as welfare here in America hurts more than it helps.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Ron Paul is talking about the

Ron Paul is talking about the total aid given to ALL Muslim nations being more than what we give to Israel. But the catch is that few or none of these nations are at war with Israel, or even threatening war. Egypt is the only one that might qualify. Ron Paul was simply trying to score a political point, but it wasn't really true.

Well, close, not ALL Muslim nations... But basically yes...

Except the catch with your point is, all the Muslim nations he mentioned do harbor hostilities towards Israel. Just because they are not in officially declared open war does not mean they have not been hostile. Harboring terrorists, giving them refuge, sending aid to terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, or government officials decrying the Jewish state would all be examples of hostility towards Israel.

It is a political point, and a good and accurate one.

And thanks for down-voting my entire post over that one little point that you are wrong about anyway. It is things like this that keep this topic from having a rational debate, and breaks down into personal attacks.

The only reason to down-vote my post is you just hate Israel, and that is your whole point. You don't want debate, it's not about America, or entangling alliances, or interventionism, or globalism, or fiscal responsibility, or non-aggression principle... It's about you've made up your mind, you hate Israel, period.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

In case you (or anyone) missed what Ron Paul actually said

http://www.dailypaul.com/293905/ron-paul-on-our-friend-israe...

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

So glad you chimed in here, Lawmanjed!

Maybe now we can discuss things calmly, without the vitriol from either side. I always knew you weren't "the enemy". We don't have to agree on everything but, it's good to start a discussion on the things we do agree about, like the MIC and ending ALL foreign aid. I've always thought anyone who wanted to financially aid whatever country for whatever reason, should be free to do so out of their own pockets and no one else's.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I always try to be calm, but this topic can be...

... turned personal pretty quickly sometimes, and we are all only human.

I have also always tried to make my views known and to be clear as possible. I was recently labeled a 'neo-con' in a similar debate on this topic. That is what I call making it personal.

We do agree on a lot.

I don't choose who I am born as and neither does anyone else. Sometimes, certain posters here can make a political issue, a personal issue. That is what breaks down the rational debate, into accusations, assumptions, presumptions, and broad-brush labels.

I think, and hope the goal of all on Peace. Gold. Love. is first... Peace. Rational debate, and not broad-brush-labeling is how we achieve that. We at DP have a voice. With power comes responsibility.

I have always come to this, or any debate or issue with my best attempt at an objective, unbiased perspective as I can. I absolutely understand the plight of a native population suddenly faced with what seems to them like an invasion of "outsiders" who then engage in battle and fly a new flag over the territory that was previously your home.

I also understand the plight of a people who also always called that land home, also always remained there and always have, for even longer actually, though they were the minority for the last few centuries with the exception of the last one. This people were persecuted throughout history, and once again an attempted genocide of this people happened in Europe. Nearly all of Europe was conquered by this force, and there was really nowhere to go, not even the USA who took in the NAZI brain-trust but not Jewish refugees. Nowhere, but home. The Jewish people have ALWAYS been followers of G-d, first and foremost, which is why they were persecuted for the most part. Kings, Pharoahs, Caesars, and Dictators have always desired to be worshipped, and Jews refuse to worship any but the Lord G-d, that Commandment #1. "Thou shall have no other Gods but Me".

When the Jewish refugees started pouring into Jerusalem after WW2, the British owned the country. There was never a "Palestinian" nation.

I don't agree with either side in their ethnic war. In my opinion they should unite the whole of Israel, Muslim, Jew, Christian, whatever. One state, religious freedom, tolerance, communication. And that takes the Muslims to agree to as well. Every "peace treaty" ends with foreign (outside 'Palestinian') funded terrorism against Israel breaking the treaty, unfortunately.

In 1948, it was the Muslim leadership, mostly NOT from local 'Palestinians' who refused to allow the Jewish population to live in peace (because the local Muslims, Jews, and Christians were already living in peace), and was responsible for the violence starting. The Jews had secretly made small arms for defense (as these were survivors of the holocaust, resistance fighters who knew what was coming), and won the fighting in the streets. They then declared independence as the re-established nation of Israel.
Then the surrounding Muslim nations declared war on Israel, because they would not allow a Jewish state among their Muslim states.

It seemed like Israel and the Jews would be crushed. Some suspect that was indeed the plan. The Odessa Plan, it is known as, was the Nazis plan to gather all remaining Jews in Palestine, their 'ancient homeland', and then destroy them there. The Nazi war-machine was destroyed at that point, however Hitler had an alliance with the Mufti, and Islamic leadership throughout the Middle-East and North Africa. That relationship, and the re-writing of the map post-ww2 is why Iran translates to 'Aryan'. Odessa Plan also explain why Nazi collaborator Rothschilds were invested in the re-establishment of Israel. And the Nazi sympathizers, double-agents, and open Hitler/Nazi supporters within the halls of power in Great Britain make the possibility all the more likely. Not to mention the Vatican helping to escape hundreds of thousands of Nazi SS from Nuremburg justice. And also the USA bringing in the Nazi brain-trust into the MIC, but not allowing Jewish refugees in, continues to paint a picture of a vast conspiracy.

But G-d apparently saw fit that Israel and the Jews were not destroyed. Can't argue with that in my opinion, and it just so happens to coincide perfectly with what the bible says, what the Jewish people (the good ones, the Remnant) have been representing all along, for 5000 years.

Now however, Israel is still in tough mess, with enemies all around. The Palestinian people are in no better a position, and are being used as pawns, and as a ground-force for foreign Islamic Kingdoms like Jordan (whose Kingdom is propped up with U.S. foreign aid also), and made into targets by the actions of radical Islamic intolerance groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, backed by Iran and Syria and other foreign nations.

I wish Israel could unite the who nation, and the Muslims and Jews can get along. If Israel thought it could, it would. But there is still too much hate on both sides, especially the Muslim side, and that is undeniable.

The goal is get people to put down their hate, and start to listen. I hope that is an eventuality but it isn't up to me.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

talk about a conspiracy to investigate--

WHY did so many nations refuse to let Jews enter previous to WWII before things got so bad for Jews in Europe?

Who was behind this? Why so much silence about it?

And why did one nation (or one part of a nation at any rate) manage to evacuate their Jews, when other nations couldn't manage it?

(Denmark)

And it's very interesting to me that Sweden did allow those Danish Jews into Sweden, and yet they rejected Jews from so many other places.

All unanswered questions, and I think it's vital to know the answer.

I have been trying to study this, and I admit I don't have the full picture, but I wish I knew the truth.

What did Denmark do to make themselves able to succeed, and why couldn't other nations do that?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

That's a lot to digest before I can respond to you.

We do have some points of disagreement but, also many points of agreement. For example, I don't believe a two state solution is the answer. One state, with the same laws applying to everyone, would seem the best way to go, imho.

I wouldn't put the entire blame on the Muslim leadership. Leaders on both sides have done a lot of damage. The people themselves, whether Jew, Muslim or Christian, I believe are good people. They certainly managed to live peacefully together before the state of Israel was being created. Unfortunately, an open dialogue between them, without outside or government(s') interference, isn't possible at this point in time. I believe both the Palestinians and the Israelis are being played as pawns in an ugly game. Information is being withheld or distorted on both sides. Hurt and fear have been instilled in them, which makes it hard to trust again.

I will not argue the point with you as to whether or not Ashkenazi Jews were returned to their ancestral homeland or why they were placed there. They are there now and that has to be accepted. It is their home now.

As for the rest of your comment, hopefully we will have the opportunity to explore that calmly at another time.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Where do you think this going, or what will become of this,

another (bigger) false flag to scare the crap out of everybody?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Well, it knocked out DP for awhile LOL!

Just kidding. I don't know where it will go but, I never thought I'd live to see the day when those truths would be said openly on national television. Did you see it, Ira?

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

They have more planned

and they're going to be in other major cities around the country. Many prominent speakers are already lined up to speak. Some may be two or three day events. This will give people a chance for people to better interact and network. A very influential guest from abroad is scheduled to speak. Some may say it will be a little freaky ;)

Just started watching now

When DP went down I was thinking the same thing......

I wonder if Grangers head explodes. She probably has her fingers in her ears saying naaannaananananananana

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown