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Happening now: Plane Crash : Missing Passport Connected ?

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http://www.wxyz.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-loses-conta...

Malaysia Airlines loses contact with plane flying to Beijing, carrying 239 passengers

Foreign ministry officials in Italy and Austria said the names of two nationals from those countries listed on the flight's manifest matched passports reported stolen in Thailand.

Italy's Foreign Ministry said the Italian man who was listed as being a passenger, Luigi Maraldi, was traveling in Thailand and was not aboard the plane. It said he reported his passport stolen last August.

Austria's Foreign Ministry confirmed that a name listed on the manifest matched an Austrian passport reported stolen two years ago in Thailand. It said the Austrian was not on the plane, but would not confirm the person's identity.

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4 Americans including an infant on board

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SteveMT's picture

One of the two "plane" objects found is 70 feet long??!!

Debris From Missing Plane Possibly Off Australia
Posted on: 11:02 pm, March 19, 2014, by George Brown, updated on: 12:07am, March 20, 2014

A Royal Australian Air Force plane is attempting closer inspection of the objects that were spotted in the southern Indian Ocean.

John Young with the Australian Maritime Authority said the largest piece appeared to be about 70 feet.
http://wreg.com/2014/03/19/debris-from-missing-jet-maybe-fou...

fireant's picture

Objects may be from missing Malaysia Airlines jet: Tony Abbott

""Two objects possibly related to the search for a missing Malaysia Airlines plane have been spotted in the southern Indian Ocean", Tony Abbott says."
“The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has received the information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. Following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/objects-ma...

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SteveMT's picture

Yup. I hope this is the breakthrough to end the mystery

Objects found by satellite? Why couldn't they track the plane by satellite in the first place?
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Australia says objects from missing plane may have been found
March 19, 2014 2:58PM

Abbott called it “credible information,” adding that after “specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified.”

But Abbott cautioned that locating the objects could be extremely difficult and “it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight MH370.”

He did not say where the objects were.
http://www.suntimes.com/26314667-418/australia-says-objects-...

michcrow's picture

Plane May Have Landed on China/Kyrgyzstan Border

I'm not going repeat everything in the video. But the one thing I'll
highlight is the fact that apparently the wife and children of the pilot moved out the day before the flight.

Here's the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d94RCENQx-Y

Two shorten the road.

fireant's picture

Unconfirmed, but since assets are moving search to the Indian

Ocean, likely true.
"Rolls-Royce, however, isn't talking on the record about what data it may or may not have received and Malaysian officials were quick to dismiss the WSJ report as inaccurate at a press conference today. Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the chief executive of Malaysia Airlines, told reporters that the last technical data received from the plane was less than 30 minutes after takeoff. "That was the last transmission," he said. "It did not run beyond that."" http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/13/mh370_roll...
I have to ask Mr. Yahya why the search has moved west if they have no transmission after 30 minutes flight time.

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Malaysian Airliner Carrying

Malaysian Airliner Carrying 20 Texas Based Defense Contractor Techs Who Specialize in Electronic Weaponry and Stealth Technology
http://www.dailypaul.com/314146/malaysia-plane-hidden-with-e...

  1. Semiconductor firm’s top management onboard missing MAS flight
  2. Turns out Boeing Warned About Electronic HiJacking of 777
fireant's picture

Looking more and more like #1 may have something to do with it.

Kidnapping? Not so sure about #2, but the engineers from freescale could be a target for someone wanting advanced tech? Here's the company website: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/library/prod_lib.jsp

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michcrow's picture

There is Nothing There

Recently the Chinese provided some satellite images where there was
something that looked like debris. According to the Malaysian Goverment, they searched that area and said "There is nothing there".

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/there-is-nothing-m...

Two shorten the road.

Curious, if the radar reports are correct

after it turned off its transponder, and turned west, it was headed straight for Somalia/Yemen. Since it was headed to Bejing, it had alot of fuel.

Another possibility, could it have hit anything with so much force as to actually vaporize the plane leaving no debris large enough to notice - a hypersonic object perhaps? A suitcase Nuke ?

What would an EMP do, would the redundant systems still fly for a while, with the crew and passengers dead ( from lack of oxygen ) ?

Or did a large secret door on Pulau Perak open up, and the plane landed on a hidden underground airstrip, and are now prisoners of Dr. No ? - it looks possible

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"Another possibility, could it have hit anything with so much force as to actually vaporize the plane leaving no debris large enough to notice..."

...you mean like if it hit the penta gon? lol.

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Just tell the US that someone

Just tell the US that someone was carrying gold coins from the US mint on board. The plane will be found in 1 day.

michcrow's picture

Transponders Turned OFF??

I just heard this recently. The problem is I don't remember where. Has anyone else heard this?

Two shorten the road.

fireant's picture

If the plane did travel an hour after lost from primary radar,

yes, that means it was likely the transponders were turned off. Analog radar would then be used, but altitude is not shown, and it can be sketchy. Also, range has much to do with it. Other parts of the world do not track as completely as we do in the States. This story has been around on several sources, but it's still all speculation. Someone has to get all the radar data from the various sources and reproduce the flight path. That can take some time to accomplish, especially dealing with multiple jurisdictions.
I heard an airline pilot being interviewed today who said definitely the transponder on a 777 can readily be switched off.

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What would the advantage be

for the manufacturer of a 777 to give a pilot the ability to shut off the transponder? Seems counter intuitive to me.

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fireant's picture

I don't understand either.

The only reason I can think of for turning them off is an emergency power conservation. I can understand pilots wanting control of all systems aboard the aircraft. If it was source of fire, you'd sure want to be able to turn them off. I'm just guessing.

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Just talked to my neighbor who flys for Delta

He said YES, the transponder drains the electrical systems and they do shut them down routinely and rely on (I forgot what he called it) but essentially a radar ping or blip. He bragged about being able to pick up paints skins on other aircraft..,

But that explains that, I guess it saves electricity.

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fireant's picture

If reports the plane continued to fly for hours is true,

that would rule out any emergency shut off of transponders because no type mayday signal was sent. If there were an emergency and the plane kept flying, the pilots would have time to communicate the emergency.

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SteveMT's picture

Malaysian plane: debris field found.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/10/nine-countries-in-ma...

A vessel in the area confirmed material was floating in the ocean about 92 kilometres off the southeastern coast of Vietnam in the South China Sea. The debris is located about 520 kilometres northeast of a missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370′s last known radar position.

A Thai cargo ship in the area was asked for assistance and had set course to the position but had not found anything unusual as of Monday afternoon.

The location of the possible debris does not match the flightpath expected to have been taken by the jet, which should have flown directly over Ho Chi Minh City. The location supplied to the Hong Kong’s Civil Aviation Department was more than 125 kilometres southeast of the original flight path.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/10/nine-countries-in-ma...

The whole thing reeks of

The whole thing reeks of something bad. Not quite sure why but something is bound to come up.

"Alien" abduction MIGHT be

"Alien" abduction MIGHT be the answer, but we don't know at this point as there is a lack of corroborating evidence from other potential witnesses. This aircraft certainly isn't the first to vanish without a trace. Historically, we have whole flights of aircraft which have disappeared without a trace as well as private airplanes. Most of these cases had corroborating evidence, e.g. strange lights reported by other observers on the ground, etc. The most interesting aspect of this particular case revolves around the alleged culprits and rationale, i.e. Iranians, forged passports, etc. If this tragedy isn't "alien" abduction, it's certainly being used by authorities to promote clandestine agendas, e.g. war with Iran, global biometric databases, etc.

In the following article, notice clearly how the mass media portrays anyone promoting an unorthodox view of Earhart's disappearance as a nutcase. ;)

"Theories about Earhart's fate have fascinated researchers - and nutcases - ever since."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-air...

Guess what appears after my statement that powers would push for biometric identification as a result of this tragedy... Here's an alleged video pushing biometrics from the Wall Street Journal which I haven't yet seen due to restrictions at my current location:

http://online.wsj.com/blogs/embed-video.html?guid=BA215F15-8...

Now, unidentified blips were

Now, unidentified blips were allegedly detected on radar ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/missing-malaysi...

Also interesting is the

Also interesting is the allegation that two witnesses of a light in the sky along the detoured route to the west across Malaysia MIGHT be either an explosion of the jet or , yep, a possible UFO. No information was available in the report regarding sound, but an explosion should have produced much debris.

A massive power failure

A massive power failure occurred near Darwin, Australia around March 12th or so which is ~ 5 days following this tragedy. Currently, the cause of the massive power failure is unknown. Is there a connection? UFOs emit bizarre electromagnetic effects and do affect electrical distribution. Is there an ongoing UFO flap in this region at the present time? Regardless how absurd some of this conjecture may sound to the ignorant, these questions need some investigation while conventional ideas are rightfully pursued.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=957561

Here's another article

Here's another article pushing biometrics based on assumptions of terrorism from humans... Why not give the biometric information to Interpol instead of authorities in the US? These goons are so predictable as an obvious case is being constructed for global biometric identification.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-fingerprints-photos-m...

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If this was terrorism, I would venture to bet it is also

connected to this:

Authorities on Sunday blamed a slashing rampage that killed 29 people and wounded 143 at a train station in southern China on separatists from the country's far west, while local residents said government crackdowns had taken their toll on the alleged culprits.

Police fatally shot four of the assailants — putting the overall death toll at 33 — and captured another after the attack late Saturday in Kunming, the capital of Yunnan province, the official Xinhua News Agency said. But authorities were searching for at least five more of the black-clad attackers.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/knife-wielding...

China also has groups that hate it, and not for its "freedom." Rather, for its lack of freedom. There are groups that don't want to be part of the Chinese empire.

How do 2 Iranians on stolen

How do 2 Iranians on stolen passports fit in, just a coincidence?

What I want to know is how in this day and age of

a multitude of satellites that watch virtually every square foot of activity on this earth, and the technology of the chips and GPS function devices we do not know within a foot of where every plane is located on the planet and in airspace every second of time, especially commercial aircraft with a history of hijacking, bombing, etc.? This is just way too fishy that it cannot be located!

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Praying for the families

Sad ordeal.

Curious?