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Blackwater in Donetsk, Ukraine


During the scene of big pro-Russian demonstrations last week, 'unidentified armed men' (U.S. mercenaries) were seen and filmed on the streets. A Russian Diplomat claimed some 300 hired guns had arrived in the eastern Ukraine 'flashpoint' city.

At least two videos published on YouTube earlier this week show burly, heavily armed soldiers with no insignia in the city gripped by pro-Moscow protests, and in one video onlookers can be heard shouting 'Blackwater! Blackwater!' The armed men, who wear no insignia, jogged through the streets.

Blackwater, a transnational corporation (renamed Xe, now Academi) are seen as a private army that can promote U.S. interests without official military involvement. Such mercenaries in the region could give Putin pretext for military action. Here

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Loose lips sink ships. USA

Loose lips sink ships.
USA USA USA

Southern Agrarian

They should be stopped by the Russian Military

and asked for their I.D.'s. But, Putin will be able to handle this, right? We hope so.

IF....they are asked for their I.D.'s the Russians better have someone filming it from a distance, as well as up front.

These 300 need to be confirmed they are American speaking first, and if they are from the US should be arrested & deported and/or jailed as soon as the Crimea votes on their referendum....unless Russia figures out another way to remove them.

Who is the re-named KGB now?

FSB---the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation

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Video

You know what a "Hostile Takeover" is right? In America it means

some group gets control of enough stock to either take ownership of a company or at least to significantly change the board of directors - and this is done against the will of the current board.

But in Ukraine a Hostile Takeover is just what it says.

I used to stay at a hotel in Kiev when I was there called the Hotel Slavutich. It was owned by a rich "family" (word used loosely).

On one particular day a number of military type vehicles with men in masks and camouflage pulled up to the door. These armed men then entered the lobby, overpowered security, and kidnapped the managers. One patron was killed by stray gunfire.

That was it. The Hotel was now under new ownership/control. Obviously whoever did it had the permission of the mayor/government because the police were never involved and the change of ownership was never officially challenged.

Eventually the kidnapped managers were released. But they didn't return to the hotel of course.

Only difference was that now the hotel is known as the "Hotel Slavutych" (note the "y". instead of the "i" in the original spelling).

The new "owners" were not able to get the previous owner's website - so they simply created their own under the new spelling. And the hotel stayed open and continued to function, as it does today, without a hitch.

The entire crisis...

is exactly like a 'hostile takeover'.. instead of carving up a corporation... they're carving up a country.

I have NO idea if this is true... I will post 4 those that do:

cross posted from another forum:
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some info about russia.

After break up russia became very poor and tptb in russia very rich. Many became billioners and majority ended up worse off than before.
Then putin and parliment came up with a few ideas. Apart from starting a private war with the zio.... in russia and kicking most of them out etc, here is what they did.
1. Russia has a flat rate tax of just 13%
2. Russia gave each family who wanted agricultural land between 2.2 and 6.5 acers of land free of charge with no contracts or conditions.
3. They thought and provided them with initial free seeds and tools to get started.
4. Today there are over 30 million families in russia who have registered for this scheme.
5. Big corporations own 90% of agricultural land in russia, and these families only have 10% . But get this.
6. These 30 million families provide over 50% of russias food, meat, grain, veg, dairy etc etc.
7. Now for the big shock. THEY PAY ZERO TAX.

No commitments, no catch, no tricks and no tax.
Russia is on her way to becoming one of the richest nations in the world on family wealth basis.
There are 30 million families who are tilling their land with no one grabbing a big chunk out of it. They keep what they earn.

ALL CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN WARNED THEY WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVEARLY IF THEY RESORTED TO CORRUPTION OR SABATAGE WITH THESE FAMILIES.

It has never happened before (why should it) but if a family decides to give up on a land, it will go back to government who will pass it on to another family. Land can not be sold off. No corruption.

There are other legislations in the works in Russia that I was reading about that will be implemented soon but too long to go in to.

I wish every government in the world could implement this idea.
The only other country I know who started the same scheme is Iran.
Ahmadinejad started this scheme as soon as he became president back in 2005. It has been very successful in iran but much slower than russia due to sanctions by the west.

Perhapse edger casey was correct in saying that out of russia will come the idea that will be the salvation of earth.

do you have a reference for

do you have a reference for this?

It bothers me that though everybody KNOWS the government

lies to them - they fiercely defend the government's right to do just that.

Opposition to Snowden is just one way - but I have been in various forums this weekend. NOBODY seems to believe that the protesters were anything but an entirely Ukrainian spontaneous movement with no influence from the US whatsoever.

Posting links to Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland admitting that the US has spend $5 billion hasn't helped.

And everyone seems to think that the fact - the EXACT GUY she handpicked to succeed Yanukovych is now in power was just coincidence.

I've even had people tell me that, though they haven't heard the leaked telephone conversation, the press has told them that there really isn't anything ON the leaked conversation, but opportunists are cherry picking words she said and are misinterpreting them!

The US invaded Ukraine and overthrew the leader - EVERY BIT AS MUCH as Russia currently is - perhaps more so because Russia is only going for specific regions. But Russia being less tricky and deceitful and is more out in the open (even though they are using guys with unmarked uniforms).

Russia hasn't overthrown

Russia hasn't overthrown anyone.

Russia doesn't recognise the people who violently overthrew the elected (corrupt or not) government. The US, of course, recognises violent overthrow by a minority bunch of their Nazis as the new government (because they're *their* bunch of Nazis).

Russia has a prior agreement to be in Crimea. The US has marketed the awareness of this prior agreement as an "invasion". Crimea used to be part of Russia, so it's chock full of Russians who are deadly afraid of the Nazis who destroyed the government. They're not joking. 50 million Russians were killed by Nazis in WWII. (.. compared to 2 million Jews killed by Nazis. How would Israelis react to their government being overthrown by foreign backed Nazis who exclaim their hatred of Jews?) Crimeans actually, genuinely want to rejoin Russia. Should we be surprised or consider that to be some kind of Russian propaganda? (50 million killed by Nazis, and the US supported, hyper-aggressive Nazi gang in Kiev are open and proud of their hatred of Russians.) East Ukraine was part of Russia too. It has a slim majority of Russians. But there's no access by Russia to this area. And there's a media blackout for activity in this area.

There's a tendency for people to think "they're all the same" to help think: if we're bad, then they're just as bad. And if they're just as bad as we are, then they're doing evil stuff just like we are, so they have no right to call us out for the stuff we're doing. So we just end up supporting our team against their team .. just like the marketing aims to do.

Except, no regime is as bad as our regime is. Everyone has elements of corruption, our regime *is* corruption. The US/Israel/WestSlaveStates are the greatest cause of death, destruction, and misery on the planet. Whatever resists that should be supported. And don't get distcted by western marketing campaigns.

PS: Whatever info gets the most ZioBot smears deserves the most distribution.

I will be in Donetsk Ukraine in about a month.

I'll take photos of whatever is happening at that time.

bump--

Not sure whether to say 'be careful' or--

just to applaud you or perhaps you have family there, and they need you.

Hope all goes well, and I look forward to hearing your perspective.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

If it gets to be too bad - if full scale civil war breaks out -

I won't go. I will be out more than $1,000 for the ticket but oh well.

As of right now though I am going. I leave at the end of March.

recommend watching this interview--

http://www.dailypaul.com/314010/we-are-change-interviews-ben...

I like the way both Luke and Ben acknowledge that most journalists/Americans want to take sides.

Blackwater IS American; if it is involved, then this is going to be brutal.

I am tired of the games *my own* country has been playing for so many decades.

What can *we* do?

(rhetorical question; I know nobody else knows any better than I)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Blackwater are 'guns for hire'...

My own guess is that the 'paycheck' is being paid by one (or more) of the newly 'appointed' Kiev Oligarchs.. one of whom is now the 'minister' over the Donetsk region.

According to PaulCraigRoberts this week, there are already Kiev operatives at work surgically 'removing' key pro-russian citizen leaders in Donetsk.

Honestly I don't think so.

Every oligarch has a little private army a few armed guys, a few thugs, for protection. Some have more than others. Its just the way it is done in Ukraine.

But you KNOW the US has its fingers in everywhere. Using BlackWater is politically safer because the US can always deny involvement to the press and the rest of the world.

Special ops are great for heroic missions. But mercenaries are the people of choice for "grey" missions.

I am sure these guys are being paid by the US.

Fungible :)

You and I know that the 'original' funding can be 'laundered' many times.
Without any doubt the 'money' behind such incursions is from the 'West'... could be as simple as a ledger entry buried anywhere.
This is now a blend of what I call orchestrated opportunism... it's outcome/settlement already known and anticipated... if cooler heads prevail.. if not, look out.

There is no evidence either

There is no evidence either way. But if anyone actually knows Russian History they would know that such actions are typical of Russian governments throughout history.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

is that for Russia only? ..

is that for Russia only? .. or are we allowed to use that for the US too?

We should bear in mind that, unlike the current US Regime, the current Russian government is not a continuation of the Russian governments of the cold war or before.

The current US regime has more in common with the USSR of old than the current russian government.

It's NeoCon Sunday X 100 today...

CBS 'Face the Nation', CNN etc is non stop today...

How differently the new government is acting.

The military were never deployed during the riots in Kiev. Now they are being used to confront a peaceful population that wishes to democratically leave Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. This is very 19th. century behaviour, to use John Kerry's well publicised allegations of Russian "invasion" of Crimea.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Of course the military wasn't deployed in Kiev.

That was OUR invasion of Ukraine. The participants were told how to dress, how to act, what to say to the press, even told to bring flowers to look more peaceful and sincere.

And the government was threatened in no uncertain terms regarding what would happen if they laid a hand on the "peaceful protesters" - between firebomb tosses of course.

But this is the RUSSIAN'S invasion. This one the US government isn't paying for or orchestrating. Of course the military can be used NOW.

there is no Russian

there is no Russian "invasion".

They have prior agreements to be in Crimea. In any case, the population absolutely want the Russian presence there.

This so-called Russian "invasion" is a product of US war marketing.

They may well have been in Kiev also.

There were reports of foreign mercenaries active in the Kiev riots also. This is no doubt why the West has accused the soldiers in Crimea of being Russian unmarked military. According to President Putin they were local self defence forces. It seems to be very common for the West to accuse other nations of doing what they themselves are guilty of.

The question now arises, is the Kiev government aware of these deployments? Are they paying for mercenaries to avoid using the Right Sector paramilitary forces?

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Crimean Border flyover footage...

Where is the evidence that they are Russian?

The assumption in Western media is that these are Russians but they have also been claimed as local self defence forces.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Ukraine’s acting Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh

Ukraine’s acting Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh says that there are no plans to send the Ukrainian military to Crimea.

“No movements, no departures for Crimea by the armed forces are foreseen. They are doing their routine work which the armed have always had,” he said.

The Ministry of Defence says says all that is happening is training missions, but in the last few days troops have been mobilizing from bases in west, south, and north Ukraine, and anti-aircraft missiles have been spotted in north Ukraine.
http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-20-a-mili...

This is just 20 tanks, The Ukrainians have more than 2,000

altogether. All former Soviet of course - but several models behind the ones the Russians use.