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"People Are Idiots"

It’s a phrase that gets tossed around rather nonchalantly, and just about any situation can justify it.

A traffic jam. “These people are idiots!”

A long line at the grocery store “OMG these people are such idiots!”

And every so often, in political debate. “Yes, I understand your ideas about X, but people are idiots, so therefore we need to maintain system Y.”

This is a major mental obstacle that anyone wishing to advance the ideas of liberty, or advance the ideas of anything, must overcome and dispel in their own minds. It is dangerous, and illogical.

If “people are idiots”, and you are a singular “people” – a person – then by that logic you too must be an idiot. And why would anyone listen to an idiot?

Of course, the user of the phrase isn’t referring to people like him. No, he’s talking about some mysterious tribal “other people” that seemingly inhabit the entire planet, yet never include this user, his immediate family or inner circle of friends. They are the smart ones – it’s those other people who are the idiots!

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On a side note:

Some people really are just stupid.

http://benswann.com/democratic-congresswoman-claims-constitu...

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

i think its more misguided than anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa_2HJqBRBE i think people are just misguided not idiots or statist...

Albert Camus — 'The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.'

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"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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Beat me to it

One of the most accurate lines in a movie ... EVAR!

Then again this statement could apply as well.


http://youtu.be/MhLqPfAylF4

I keep running into this

I keep running into this argument when I talk to my socialist friends. Some of them argue that commercials are immoral because the public cannot stand against the "awesome power" of them. They generalize alot and say that the responsibility of the public to make decisions that are beneficial to the individual is too much for people to handle, therefor advertisement needs to be heavy regulated, or illegal.

I am a Swede with a socialist background turned Libertarian and I agree with some of their arguments about different things, never their solutions but sometimes their analysis about problem-areas in our, and your, society.

But with this I heavily put down my foot. Their claim that people cannot handle the responsibility is downright self-destructive and it bottles down to the argument that people are stupid and cannot, and shouldn't have to, handle the responsibility of living their own lives. I could not disagree more. In my opinion people, individuals, are smart and creative, GROUPS are idiotic and dangerous (individualism>collectivism). Therefor if people start thinking more individualistic and start taking responsibility for themselves their collectivist argument falls apart.

Anyway.. I think I need to ask them, are THEY stupid too?

defeat them with their own logic.

If everyone is too stupid to run their OWN lives, than they are certainly too stupid to regulate the lives of others.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

heh, very true.. I will try

heh, very true.. I will try that argument combined with the "Are you also stupid" counter argument.

Though, I doubt I will be able to convince anyone of my friends about individual liberty and limited government. We here in Sweden are indoctrinated into believing that government is good, period. Each and every time that we have Swedish politicians or bureaucrats that does something wrong they say it's just a bad apple, or it's THAT parties fault. I keep telling them that it's bigger than that, it's systematic. But they will have none of that, the blinders are immediately put on.

My parents are like that, my socialist friends are like that, even my "moderate" (bourgeois?) friends are like that. I wish we could go through another "Ron Paul-like mass event" so that I could get my friends and family on this line of thinking. Now Ron Paul is old news, they never listened to him but refuse to listen now, because it's old news, he didn't win.. So obviously his ideas weren't good enough. Of course this is bull.

Ron Paul woke me up like a kick in the balls. I might be the one exception to the rule.

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And of course, if you're tired to play softball with them

And of course, if you're tired to play softball with them, there's always Bastiat's question you can submit to them :

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G063

You'll have a good time watching them trying to answer THAT, I promise :)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Curse you! :) You just made

Curse you! :)

You just made me read, now I won't be able to stop for the entire day... Another day without productive, but pointless, jobsearching.

Thank you for your insight, I appriciate it.

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I can relate a lot to that.

I can relate a lot to that. Well, mostly by the past anyway. And I'm no Swede.

That's essentially the same reflection about the old argument collectivism (with deceptive makeup, for long now) vs. individualism (often dishonestly defamed) that led to me to write this up a while ago.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I guess this is a global

I guess this is a global phenomena that I cannot put purely on the backs of my kinsmen. It would be interesting to see a university study on the history of this line of thinking, especially from the end of the second world war and where is comes from. My guess, pure speculation, is that It comes from the propaganda ministry of the Council of Foreign Relations... But I am actually stupid to say that, but, it just feels right...

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No... sadly, MY own country had a huge responsibility

No... sadly, MY own country had a huge responsibility (read: culpability) in it, as early as the beginning of the 1800s; watch and read this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/296254

Will it be a surprise to you that I discovered Bastiat only in my adult life, my mid 30s, and not once I came across his writings in 16 years spent in our public schools system?

Q.E.D.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

No it doesn't surprise me at

No it doesn't surprise me at all. As Frank Zappa said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXeTSZl-jOU

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I'm Polish.....

That's my excuse :)

Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof

Surrounded...

http://www.dailypaul.com/270001/time-for-my-nightly-jam-sess...

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Sir,

I Think It Was George Carlin Who Said...

...everyone driving slower than you is an idiot and everyone driving faster than you is a maniac.

RIP Carlin

A very funny and intelligent man.

+1

Beat me to the punch on that one...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.