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Let Us Never Forget Shay's Rebellion!

Our Country was founded on the blood of the Commoners, the wealthy elite including many of our Founders had NO concern for the Common People (Shays' Rebellion.)The British Crown maintained control of our newly founded Government through Titles of Nobility and Honors that were abolished by the Original (and now missing) 13th Amendment. The Union of the States was founded upon FRAUD.
The British Crown has controlled Washington since the beginning

Long live Daniel Shay!!!
http://youtu.be/ZEoeK5MvEdY

George Washington and Samuel Adams,Ihate you with all my guts! I'm so happy that I know the truth now.



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The Man's Name was "Shays"

..and it was "Shays' Rebellion".
NOT just poor farmers.
NOT just disgruntled veterans.
Wealthy Land Owners, also.
Pillars of the western Massachusetts Bay State communities, that observed the "power play" being foisted upon the citizens by "speculators"from east Mass.

Said Speculators were wealthy businessmen from Boston, who purchased paper currency for coin at huge discounts, and stood to reap HUGE rewards on their investments when Mass. Legislature voted to liquidate the debt and "payoff" the debt represented by the "paper money".

They had the "inside scoop" since they had prominent positions within the legislature and court system...like Wall Street today.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Wow, thankyou for this.

Wow, thankyou for this.

Thank Me?..Thank YOU!

..Ya got me off to the "crusades" again! (LOL!)

I found some really informative youtubes on this, good documentaries, which I really enjoyed.
I haven't had this much fun since Mr.Campbell's history classes in 7th grade...and his classes were AWESOME!
In retrospect, Mr.Campbell was a visionary, speaking about fiat currency; currency vs money; Civil War NOT about slavery, and all way back in 1965.
Thank you for putting this out there for the masses.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I think Shay's rebellion is

I think Shay's rebellion is the key to getting back our republic. We need to start closing down the courts, why can't we do that?

You can't ignore force

You can't ignore force though.

We Must Close the Courts

....and the Legislature.

We truly need another SHAYS' REBELLION.

And what's up with the hijackers here pushing the TONA 13th Amendment?

That should be in its own post.
STAY FOCUSED PEOPLE...unless it's trolls at work? LOL!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Even when the State was small, it was too big

...

Yes sir! It was all leading

Yes sir! It was all leading to this point. Look what has happened to all the states, Bankrupt central!!! In a way governors are just mini presidents. The other day I heard Ann Coulter say because Obama was so bad and inexperienced, we cant have no more senators running for President, only governors or similar to that. You know what she's doing right? Putting the word out there not to vote for Rand Paul. I dont even believe in voting, the system is fake, but its so obvious what she's doing. I hate that witch, she looks like an alien from outer space or something. Anyway, we need to just get rid of it all.

"In May, 1775, Washington

"In May, 1775, Washington said: ‘If you ever hear of me joining in any such measure [as separation from Great
Britain], you have my leave to set me down for everything wicked’- He also said: ‘It is not wish or interest of the
government [meaning Massachusetts], or of any other upon this continent, separately or collectively, to set up
for independence’" Ingersoll, North American Review, CLV. No.2, August, 1892, p. 183, also quote in Sources
of the Constitution of the United States, c. Ellis Stevens, 1927, page 36. Why after winning the revolution we come up with the Articles of Confederation? because it was never about giving us our freedom. You see in the beginning the establishment gave us all these rights, just so people would come! that was our calling card- FREEDOM. Now when you got everyone locked in, that's when you spring the trap. Guys I hate to say it, but we're still a British colony. Just look up the treaty of Paris 1783 or the Act of 1871. We weren't suppose to have any lawyers sitting on a bench in America, but when they destroyed the 13th amendment, that went out the window. Look at the war of 1812, so the British came and invaded and burnt down the white house and we just let them leave? hmmm, you guys starting to see it now? George Washington was a lying cheat. He heard where the capital was going to be located, bought a whole bunch of land and when D.C was chosen, he made a lot of money! We weren't suppose to have a congress or a President, they made it up. Washington, Madison, Hamilton, Samuel Adams, John Adams were all federalist who wanted a big government. Now why would they want that?

I'm sorry buddy because I know the contradictions you are

trying to reconcile. Allow me to help straighten out some common misconceptions.

1. The revolutionary war was fought to win political independence from england. So that american government would be independent of the crown.
-It was not fought to win freedom from government/so that the individual would be free from government-like it's taught to us in elementary school. Unfortunately...that is my dream that I want to realize in my lifetime.

2. American government does have full legal independence from england. The federal and state lawmakers are fully self determining.

3. I wasn't there, but according schmoop, in the war of 1812 the americans gave the british a good fight:http://www.shmoop.com/war-1812/statistics.html
Number of British casualties suffered in the Battle of New Orleans: 2036
Number of American casualties suffered in the Battle of New Orleans: 21
American killed in the War of 1812: 1877
American wounded in the war of 1812: 4000

Supposably we brokeoff from

Supposably we brokeoff from Great Britain because of taxation without representation. Which is weird because after we won our independence we established the same system here! You're not asking why the war of 1812 occurred. I thought the war was over? Didnt we sign a treaty with England? The truth is the states passed the 13th amendment and that's why Britain came, to destroy every trace of it. Why? Because look what 13th amendment said "If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive,
or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the
consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension,
office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king,
prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen
of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office
of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

At the first reading, the meaning of this 13th Amendment (also called the
"title of nobility" Amendment) seems obscure, unimportant. The references to
"nobility", "honour", "emperor", "king", and "prince" lead us to dismiss
this amendment as a petty post-revolution act of spite directed against the
British monarchy. But in our modern world of Lady Di and Prince Charles,
anti-royalist sentiments seem so archaic and quaint, that the Amendment can
be ignored. Not so. Consider some evidence of its historical significance:

* First, "titles of nobility" were prohibited in both Article VI of the
Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Sections 9 and 10 of
the Constitution of the United States (1787);
* Second, although already prohibited by the Constitution, an additional
"title of nobility" amendment was proposed in 1789, again in 1810, and
according to Dodge, finally ratified in 1819.
Clearly, we saw such a serious threat in "titles of
nobility" and "honors" that anyone receiving them would forfeit their
citizenship. Since the government prohibited "titles of nobility" several
times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though
"titles of nobility" were already prohibited by the Constitution), it's
obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for us than is readily apparent today. The British invaded to send us a warning! We better not ever think to stop paying taxes to the King and the Queen or else.

nicely written

I am familiar with the line of thinking.
A few years ago this was a popular alternative version of history that was going around the internet. I watched more than a few of vids and read a lot of papers that are near identical to your comment.
Could all be true...I don't know how to know for certain though.

I do know for certain that the federal and state governments, in a legal sense, are self determining organizations...however I don't know if they actually are self determining organizations.
(who really knows who pulls the strings? I only know its not me or mine)

Watch the video and tell me

Watch the video and tell me you agree with George Washington or Sam Adams, just watch it. Enjoy

deacon's picture

a few things I looked at?

The crown of england was still owned by the crown of the vatican
The vicar,"saw america using the eyes of columbus
England owned the free world,england owned and still is
America is owned by the 2 crowns
The war for independence was financed for both sides by one party (england)
Washington sends troops out to collect taxes from whiskey producers (to pay the war debt)
While I have no proof,I believe the IRS is what is used to pay off the crowns for the debt.
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

That Holder of the Debt Being..

...The East India Company..
The first Global Corporation.
Bankrupted "The Crown", Financed the Revolutionary War.
Just like modern times...a winner on both ends.
International Law: 70 years, a country can be in bankruptcy.
We were there in 1789....70 years later, still in debt,
the year was now 1859...since the land was already "pledged" as the "collateral" on this debt, the "War Between the States" was initiated, which wasn't at all between the states, but the states against the Federal Government.
(For those brave enough to resist).
And "the people" were later "pledged" as "collateral".

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

deacon's picture

makes a bit of sense

but not totally,the crown took control of EITC,they were going bankrupt
so the crown took over that company,if this is true,then wouldn't/couldn't
it be possible that the crowns took possession of their possessions?..US?
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If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

When I Mentioned "The Crown"

...I actually meant the "Nobility" (King, Queen).
The "Crown" is evidently another entity, BUT:

Since the "Royals" were bankrupt, a "deal" was struck, allowing them to remain in power,figuratively speaking, as all the "actual" wealth was owned by the "corporation".
The "Royals" would be allowed to stay in power, drawing an "allowance" from the corporation for their "needs"...even today this is true.

"The Crown" presently rules London and Washington D.C....that is why it is named the "District of Columbia".
Please correct me if I am mistaken, but this is as near as I can remember it all.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

deacon's picture

Danton,

No correction needed by or from you.
The way I read/read it,the crown(vatican) runs england and the US
It is true the royals are just face and a name only anymore
The 3 heads of state is spiritual(vatican),laws(english) and the enforcers(USA)of it all..I call it the 3 headed beast(to me,it is all an illusion,I do not believe the vatican is spiritual anymore than i feel i should follow man made laws or the ones who enforce this nonsense on the rest of the world...To do so,would mean man is more important or higher than the one(s) who created everything we can see or not see
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Got It, Deacon..and I..

...tend to agree with ya.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

The 13th Amendment did not abolish Noblity

The 13th Amendment would disallow duel citizenship, or special interests from other countries to engage in our political practices on their behalf. A worthy goal.

The constitution does not allow titles of nobility to be given by the United States, to do so would place someone lower than a King, which we all are. To have a title of nobility in Britain would not have any effect on status in the United States, they are still simply a person of highest authority in their own right.

Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

People tend to forget the governments place is below the people, holding a government position and you will LOSE your rights as a person, you become a representative of us. We are in the mindset of the government being a higher power once someone takes office, it isn't and never was meant to be. They instituted a power WEAKER than us.

You are looking at what they enacted as if they assumed the state was superior, in your eyes, of a so called greater power, but we were intrusted to keep the government in its place, will you step up and stop it? or will you cower in fear and blame those who came before us?

Guess Again

Please read:
http://www.amendment-13.org/
"The Original Thirteenth Article of Amendment
To The Constitution For The United States"

http://www.barefootsworld.net/real13th.html
"accidentally discovered in the public library at Belfast, Maine a copy of the 1825 Maine Constitution and that of the United States which included this amendment. Subsequent research shows that it was in the records of the ratifying states, and subsequently admitted states and territories until 1876...."

Yeah...it blew my mind also.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

"The government's place is below the people..."?

Really?
Who has to obey who???
Does congress have to obey you or do you have to obey congress?
Does congress have to obey the whole of society or does the whole of society have to obey congress?

How about your state lawmakers?
How about your county? City?

What government exactly is below the people? NONE. That is propaganda taught to keep you from acknowledging the plain & horrible truth.

Government is the militant entity that has achieved dominance over a society. And it grants itself the ability to harm with legal impunity.

Can you sue a lawmaker for passing a law that puts you out of business? How about the cop that enforces that law? Or the judge? NOPE. LEGAL IMPUNITY.

If you disobey, they will put you in a cage, and if you resist they will put you in the ground. And they are more than happy to do it 24/7.

Amen.

Amen.

very worthwhile

We have a dual citizenship problem.

Yes sir!

Yes sir!