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There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists-Updated

There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists

Svoboda is a Neo-Nazi Party, Ukraine’s fourth biggest party holding 36 seats out of 450 in parliament.

They’re also part of the Alliance of European National Movements along with the BNP and Jobbik.

Svoboda is supported directly by Washington.

This is Svoboda and the “Right Sector”: the Neo-Nazi group which led the “protest movement” in Ukraine. These Neo-Nazis are armed gunmen.

The BBC headlines read: “We are putting our hopes in a new generation of politicians” amidst reports that an arrest warrant has been issued for the democratically elected president.

Speaker of the Parliament Oleksandr Turchynov who issued the arrest warrant directed against President Viktor Yanukovych stated “We must move towards a national government by Tuesday”. That government, were it to be formed, would be integrated by Svoboda.

Update:

That coalition government has now been formed with Neo-Nazis of the Svoboda and Right Sector parties in control of the Armed Forces, National security, Justice and Education.

While Obama is accusing Russia of interventionism, the US and the EU are supportive of both the terrorist Neo-Nazi militia as well as the Svoboda party. Meanwhile, the media is mum: discussion of EU-US support to Neo-Nazi political formation is a taboo.

The existence of a Neo-Nazi party working in tandem with Brown shirts militia is casually denied. Those who dare raise the issue are accused of propagandizing

Who is Lying? Who is Telling the Truth?

Scroll down to meet the “new generation of politicians” supported and financed by the Obama administration. Six major portfolios are controlled by the Neo-Nazis.

Read more:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-u...

Update with video:
The Neoliberal Neo-Nazi Coup in Ukraine. M. Chossudovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHqExUDPYvA



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Actually...

Most of the anti-Semitic statements and swastika graffiti I have seen so far has been by the Russian nationalists in Crimea, not the Ukrainian protesters. I disagree with this article. I think the neo-nazi movement is probably as small in Ukraine as in America. I'm sure if American protesters got our government to step down, there would be some Nazis trying to grab power. I don't think its fair to portray the Ukrainian revolution as being fascist. They're not. They're just trying to create a better government for themselves. I hope the best for them. I am proud of the sacrifices they made and the way they stood up to big government.

Actually... what have you seen? Where are you? Who are you?

Actually... what have you seen? Where are you? Who are you to make such a statement on conditions? Honestly! Stick your pride somewhere dark and look at the facts!

The Ukrainian Nazis ARE small, but they were the leaders of the tyre-burning stone-throwers and committed MASS MURDER on the 22nd of February, and now they hold key positions in a very shaky putschist government.

Their drunken low-brow thugs wander the streets of Kiev, assaulting people they suspect of racial/national uncleanliness. As reward for beating and getting beaten, they rob and steal from declared enemies of the revolution -- whomever they want those to be -- and the police stand aside out of fear of retribution.

We all hope for the best for Ukrainian people, but these criminals are not it. For that is what they are: a thieving regime of pirates who took money to overthrow a legitimate democratically elected government, and have used scant authority to sell major resources and industries to western cartels while the hoodlums run amok in the street.

And you want to moan about a peaceful place called Crimea, where the people were smart enough to stop the madness and break the heck away from it?!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

NAZI -- National German

NAZI -- National German Worker' Party or (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) was an exclusively German National Socialist movement.

It's overuse has made it a meaningless term. Let's be clear, the Svoboda is a Ukranian National Socialist movement. In my opinion, our government is also National Socialist, i.e. Fascist.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Six of One, Half a Dozen of the Other

National Socialist or NAZI? Same difference.

Hayek (and others) have shown quite convincingly that no matter your moniker for Central Planning (Socialism, Fascism, Mercantilism, Corporatism, State Capitalism, Marxism, etc) when it is implemented on a National scale, it leads to practices exhibited by the German NAZI's. Genocide may or may not be practiced, but National Socialism (National Central Planning) allows for this type of behavior to be silently tolerated (for fear of punishment).

I do agree that it is overused and therefore somewhat meaningless, just as Liberal and Conservative are meaningless. But that is the point. Hayek also showed that Central Planners bastardize language so as to help confuse the masses.

You have correctly identified the practices of the US government as National Socialistic, but 90+% of Americans are so indoctrinated that they would argue that we have a Democracy. What we have is a NAZI (German moniker for National Socialists) government cleverly disguised as a Republic with an overpopulation of Sheeple who couldn't tell an Oligarchy, Democracy, or Republic from a hole in the ground. "Pass the Chilli Cheese Fries, our favorite Show in this time slot is about to come back on . . ., did you make sure we're recording our second favorite Show in this time slot!?"

I'd argue that it's less of a

I'd argue that it's less of a meaningless term than it's become an inflationary one.

Try and name a present-day's government that isn't nationalist, as to what concerns the concept of use of that diffusely defined term in and of itself. And as for the term socialist- tell me of a country that's not yet completely sold on the Keynesian school and the consequences that go with it.

So i guess that makes us all part of a national - socialist society in some way, or does it?

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the Obama Administration does not support Fascists

"the Obama Administration does not support Fascists"

I guess the members of the financial services industry, the MIC, the healthcare industry, big pharma, agriculture, prison industry, legal, energy, transportation, communications, education and whomever else I'm missing better get packing!

Not to mention those just plain ole workin' for the government.

Currently consuming: Morehouse's "Better off free", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football

the Obama Administration does not support (competing) Fascists

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Why are they called neo-Nazi?

What's the difference between a "neo-Nazi" and a "paleo-Nazi"?
Is it just because they are nationalists?
We should start calling the UN, the United Nazis.
Or, is it because they show photos of people doing Roman salutes and
swastika tattoos? LOL

The Ukrainian Nazis are those who fought with Hitler.

The factions called neo-Nazis, meaning the new-Nazis, are the direct descendants of those who were led by Stepan Bandera during WWII and took the side of the Germans, fighting alongside them and working with their Einsatzgruppen:

"Einsatzgruppen can be traced back to the ad hoc Einsatzkommando formed by Reinhard Heydrich to secure government buildings and documents following the Anschluss in Austria in March 1938. The task of securing government buildings with their accompanying documentation and the questioning of senior civil servants in lands occupied by Germany was the Einsatzgruppen's original mission."

This brings to mind the actions of the Ukrainian Nazis during the recent putsch.

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Nazis-Even-Hitler-was-b...

From Wikipedia: "Assessments of his (Bandera's) work have ranged from totally apologetic to sharply negative. On 22 January 2010, the outgoing President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko awarded Bandera the title of Hero of Ukraine (posthumously). The award was condemned by European Parliament, Russian, Polish and Jewish organisations and was declared illegal by a pro-Russian Ukrainian government and court in April 2010. In January 2011, the award was officially annulled. Consequently, Stepan Bandera remains a controversial figure today both in Ukraine and internationally."

http://stepanbandera.com/?selected=2

The Wikipedia article has apparently been edited by pro-Bandera activists to lighten his reputation. Nevertheless the record is clear and whereas in 2010 the EU opposed his being raised to "Hero" status they are now embracing his legacy by supporting the factions who have violently overthrown an elected government.

The same factions have declared the two major political parties who oppose them, the Communists and the Party of the Regions, to be illegal and they therefore cannot stand in the next elections. This assures the present government of being in power until another opposition movement can be formed. This is unlikely to be permitted.

These facts make it all the more problematic for the EU which is supposed to have rules for those countries who apply for membership. The rules are both economic and political. Ukraine in its present state meets neither. If the EU goes ahead with an agreement with Ukraine then it will be because they have an agenda that demands that they break their own rules. In other words "the end justifies the means".

The evidence uncovered to date suggests that the whole Ukrainian episode has been planned and carried out unlawfully by the U.S. and the EU over a number of years in order to complete the encirclement of the Russian Federation with countries housing NATO forces. This would also explain why the EU is willing to sign an agreement with a country that is economically unqualified for membership, politically corrupt and controlled by a political regime that is both unelected and ideologically opposed to the ostensible EU ethos. Indeed they have used this faction to achieve the violent overthrow of the elected government.

This may be explained by the fact that the legal architecture of the EU is based upon the plan for the Greater German Reich written by Professor Walter Hallstein in 1939. Hallstein was also a lawyer for the I.G. Farben Oil/Drugs/Chemicals Cartel who were linked with the Rockefellers' Standard Oil and who were responsible for the construction and operation of the Auschwitz Industrial Complex that used slave labour from the Concentration Camp. Hallstein was the first President of the European Commission.

The legal structure of the EU is designed for government by a synthesis of Banking, Corporate and State Power, in other words Fascism in its purest form. This is the core design of the New World order that has been built upon Walter Hallstein's Plan for the Greater German Reich with the UN Security Council at its pinnacle and the alphabet soup of UN agencies as the technocratic scaffolding for World Government.

http://www.reject-the-eu.co.uk

It is the same design being used in North America. It has not yet been fully implemented but the Western military axis of the U.S.led NATO has been working on it. They have been resisted in some areas although Russia and China have until recently cooperated with them. This cooperation is now ending and I believe the Plan will fail, starting with the economic collapse of the EU.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

What about the Russian Nazis then?

They didn't fight with Hitler -or at least their ancestors didn't- but is it still ok to occupy and annex another state's territory then?

Seems to me that one group of imbeciles competes against the other one there in Ukraine. So then again, maybe in this regard, it's ultimately not that different from any other part of the world there, after all.

good information

Thank you.
I didn't know about their connections to the National Socialists of Germany.

UN = United Nazis

When I read, "United Nazis".. I LOL, and that bothers me, because when something moves me to LOL it's because I see a truth, before I think it through.. United Nazis.. wow. Yeah. Yeah it is and why the UN hates Israel..

But.. things being what they are.. I think the word Nazi now means "nationalist".. So if Russia says it's going to take the North Pacific coast to San Francisco (because they once controlled all that and we still have churches and "artifacts".. then thise who say they want to be "America" will be labled Nazis.. seems that's the new political term for nazi and why Israelis are called Nazis.

Can't forget...

...the Socialist part of National Socialist. If nationalist Americans or nationalist anybody are also authoritarians, trying to forcefully embed government control and regulation in the private sector for the supposed advancement of the 'national will', then they are kindred spirits in many ways with the Nazis. The anti-Semitism may or may not be present -- not essential for being a fascist. So yes, nationalist Israelis can also be fascist, or neo-Nazi.

In this case

I can forget about the socialist part, because the term "nationalist" and "nazi", have nothing to do with socialism.. this is not an issue of socialism but sovreignity.

Why would any nation give up it's sovreignity?

I think this is what spurred my question.

I don't really see the "socialist" factor in the Ukrainian nationalist movement. From what I've read, Svoboda wanted an independent Ukraine, but I am not aware of any socialist policy, other than that which is considered "normal European socialism", I suppose. I guess I need to research their political platform.

Social-National Party

The previous name of the party was the Social-National Party. The present name of the party is "Svoboda", Ukrainian for "Freedom". One of their allies in the recent putsch was the Right Sector faction that has now registered as a political party. They were responsible for much of the violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

The Wikipedia entry is worth reading since it contains material from many sources.

They have ostensibly moved from the far right to the centre in the past few years but this seems to be more of an expediency than a true change. The Nazis under Hitler did the same. They have been given credibility by the U.S., and the EU even though Svoboda opposes any links with the EU due to its nationalist position. Whether this will continue as they seek power is an open question. They say they are anti-Communist but this is inevitable given their adherence to nationalism while Communism is inherently internationalist. Their political platform has been cleaned up but contains the following:

" Svoboda’s platform is called “Our Own Authorities, Our Own Property, Our Own Dignity, on Our Own God-Given Land.” and includes the following points:

Ukraine—a presidential republic, head of state is the head of government
Lustration of state authority: publication of lists of all Soviet KGB agents that served or continue to serve in Ukraine, dismissal of such people as well as members of the former Communist Party of the Soviet Union from state leadership positions, replace them with graduates of the Ukrainian universities
Criminal prosecution for “Ukrainophobia”
Only those born in Ukraine can become Ukrainian citizens, with the exceptions for those who have lived in Ukraine for more than 15 years, know the Ukrainian language, culture and Ukrainian Constitution
Renunciation of the 2010 Kharkiv agreements. (Leasing naval base in crimea to the Russian Black Sea Fleet)
Impeachment of President Viktor Yanukovych
Ban on abortion, except in cases of medical necessity, or rape; and imprisonment from three to seven years for those who violate this ban
Criminalization of public promotion of abortions or calls for abortions (by introducing a fine for doing so)
The right to keep and bear arms (This has been broken already by their attempt to disarm the people jeu as the Nazis did when they gained power.)
Cancelling taxes on Ukrainian language products — films, music and literature — and instead imposing taxes on non-Ukrainian language products. The proceeds obtained this way will be channeled into developing Ukrainian language products.
Nationalization of major enterprises, greater state control of the banking system and a ban on privatization of land.
Energy independence for Ukraine
The development of competitive industries, particularly food processing and aircraft engineering, shipbuilding, machine-tool construction, machine manufacturing, the military industrial complex and the aerospace industry
Ban on the import of the food products that are also produced inside Ukraine and import only exotic food that is not domestically grown
The restoration of the Soviet practice of indicating ethnic origin on passports and birth certificates[39][50]
Proportional representation on executive bodies of ethnic Ukrainians, on the one hand, and national minorities, on the other
Ban on adoptions by non-Ukrainians of Ukrainian children
Preferential treatment for Ukrainian students in the allocation of dormitory places, and a series of similar changes to existing legal provisions
Ordained persons should have no right to be elected to state authorities or local self-government authorities
Abolition of Crimean autonomy
Abolition of value added tax
Farmlands are to be state-owned and given to farmers in hereditary use
The state is to implement a firm pro-family policy
Dismissal of employees of state structures who had been active in the Soviet apparatus before 1991
Decommunization of public space (monuments, names of streets and places)
Russia should apologize "for its communist crimes"
Ukraine is to leave the Commonwealth of Independent States "and other post-Soviet structures"
An explicit guarantee of accession to NATO within a set period of time[2]
Ukraine should again re-acquire tactical nuclear weaponry
Svoboda also states in its programme that it is both possible and necessary to make Ukraine the “geopolitical centre of Europe”. The European Union is not mentioned in the programme. According to Party leader Oleh Tyahnybok the programme is a worldview based on Christian values of the rejection of various deviations.
Member of parliament Ihor Miroshnychenko asked the head of the Kiev City State Administration Oleksandr Popov on 7 March 2013 to ban an LGBT march that was held the next day because he believed it would "contribute to promoting sexual orientation" and he further stated in his request "homosexuality provokes sexually transmitted diseases and AIDS". The 8 March rally was in fact not an LGBT march but organized by feminist organisations." (Wikipedia)

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I notices the lack of "socialism"

Connected with the "nationalists" the other day.. it became apparent to me, that Russia is taking Ukraine and anyone who wanted indepence from Russia was "a nationalist" or a "nazi".. which, since UN Durban Israelis are called nazi racists.. welcome to the UN Agenda.

I watched a movie last night.. documentary about Russian politics "Putin's Kiss". It should have been called, how putin rules russia with a bloody fist. Talk about a police state!!!

Events are what they are

because nation states and their inviolable sovereignty are on the decline. Instead there are local groups (Kosovo, Catalonia, Northern Italy, etc.) as well as now The Crimea who demonstrate this. Conquest is not popular with groups, only nations. As nation states attempt morphing into corporate ruler domains, the slow dissolution of them into viable independent smaller governances pushes back against this new reality.

I agree

And I think, well, it would be Nazi of me to stand for America and politically coorect to push for a North American Union, preferably with Putin as president.

Nazi means...

National Socialist -- look up the history on it.

I wouldn't say that anybody who supports a nation's existence is a Nazi or a fascist. The socialism part of it is essential to the meaning -- the authoritarian control for implementing the 'will of the people'.

I don't think that expansionism is an essential part of fascism, or national socialism -- much like the racism it may or may not be present, depending on the individual instance.

Actually, Marxist-Leninism seems much the same to me -- it just starts with outright abolition of private property and works out from there without as much of a focus on one particular 'fatherland'. Still authoritarian socialists, just like the Nazis.

Is Putin a Socialist?

What is Putin? What is Russia?

Seems like...

...he is an authoritarian to some degree, which I'm sure he thinks is necessary to mount an effort to resist NATO/EU/US expansionism and destabilization of their backyard. I think he resents Russia having been continually kicked in the teeth with broken promises since the end of the Soviet Union and is trying to have Russia viewed as an equal, rather than as a vanquished lesser to be hemmed in.

Not trying to excuse his authoritarianism, whatever degree it might be. But I think regardless of the nature of a Putin, or even of a Hitler, I think it is dangerous and foolish to act as the victors did to Germany after WW1 and after the Cold War to Russia, breaking promises to respect their interests and security perimeter, grinding people into the dirt as payback or artificially carving up nations so that ethnic peoples are dislocated from the cultures and nations they identify with. It just invites a Hitler to use the righting of wrongs as a vehicle or an excuse for his rabid authoritarianism.

Britain and France and the US felt guilty about what they had done to the German people in Versailles, which is why they weren't so alarmed at first when Hitler moved to reunite the fractured people. Better to have acted wisely beforehand and not set up the situation for a Hitler. Better for the West to calmly go about its business now and get its own house in order so it can be that example of Liberty and seeking harmony through trade that it should be. Foolish to just throw rocks at the bear and try to tweak it and then act surprised when it reacts.

The wests business

has been in global trade and why we have things like coffee and chocolate. I think Putin understands expansion is growth and minding your own business is suicide when you produce nothing but hungry people.

Needs to...

...stick to peaceful, true free-market global trade, with all nations, and not try to use trade or lack of it as a weapon for geopolitical chess moves. Need to stop with the militarism.