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Any Free Staters Here Know 'About New Hampshire?

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While looking for a New Hampshire location for my Liberty Community project, I came across this restored generating station.
http://www.newportmill.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/WR-Mill-0631-web.jpg

A fully operational Hyrdo-Electric Generating Mill with rental and retail electric generating income. It produces about $500,000 in income selling electricity.
And it's owned by the same man, William B. Ruger, Jr. who is selling the 500 acre estate depicted below.

Slideshow http://www.nnerenmls.com/nne/gallery.php?login=res:public:43...
Property Description
http://www.nnerenmls.com/nne/pubIncoming.php?mls=4314788


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So my mission to find a location for a Liberty Community has taken me to New Hampshire.

Newport, New Hampshire— Nestled amid more than 500 acres of verdant fields and grand forests, the charming and historic Northville Farm is being offered for sale at US$3.75 million. The estate is accessed by an enchanting story-book covered bridge, offering the utmost in privacy and seclusion.

Northville Farm retains the original ambience, grandeur, and charm of its copious history, with the comfort of contemporary conveniences. The estate was extensively remodeled in the 1870s by financier Austin Corbin, creator and founder of the nearby 25,000-acre Corbin Park hunting preserve and the Blue Mountain Forest Association. Further remodeled and expanded by the current owner, today Northville Farm features a 7,831-square-foot Victorian-style main residence, library building, large barn, four-bedroom guest house, caretaker’s home, and two workshop buildings.


http://youtu.be/bt2bwAUOUxA
I came across several property parcels for sale that would provide a base of operation and over 1,000 acres of farm and timber.
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-SJ440_newton_H_20120327080634.jpg
It just so happens that the properties are owned by the Ruger family. They have spared no expense in restoring several historic properties to their original condition.
http://www.christiesrealestate.com/eng/article/57105-northvi...

Mr. Ruger is now in Maine working on another restoration project.

There is an airport adjacent to the Estate for easy access.
http://www.newportnh.net/aynnyd/uploaded/images/runway_18_paint.jpg

A little history:
A legend in American industry, Ruger had a hand in the original design and time-honored styling of every firearm his company produced. He continued to work on new creations up until his death. With his legendary leadership style, he led his business from “it can’t be done” remarks to a corporation listed on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE: RGR). His firm has produced more than 20,000,000 firearms for hunting, target shooting, collecting, self-defense, law enforcement and for US and foreign governments.[6]

Today, with plants in Newport, New Hampshire, and Prescott, Arizona, and corporate headquarters in Southport, Fairfield, Connecticut, Sturm, Ruger manufactures high-quality rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers for a variety of sporting and law enforcement purposes. Its precision investment castings are made for a variety of industries, including aerospace, automotive, general manufacturing and the golf market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Ruger
I will add more information as time allows.



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Where are the closest n. power plants?

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Seabrook is

Down wind and down stream from the areas I'm looking at.

Anything w/in 250 mi upstream?

Not just from wind, but also need to check 200 mi + upstream from aquifer sources.

Another dimension: A creativity incubator-Caution: Real Porn

Real Estate Porn: This is a compound w/ 16 bedrooms, 14 baths in three houses. Take a look. Could it work for several families and individuals? Support for the compound would come from a trust. So typical money issues of room mating would be resolved. Give me your thoughts.

http://youtu.be/m0Yf0fHbmLk

Phase 2 of this search

Has taken me towards the Lake Winnipesaukee area of New Hampshire.
Prices and taxes are higher as you go east. But there is more commercial activity. So for instance this property has a heliport and a hangar. A group can farm and create inventions etc. Yet in a few minutes you can go west to less expensive holdings or east towards more activity. Give me your thoughts.
http://www.baysidenh.net/retsphotos/4311974_1.jpeg
http://homesite.obeo.com/viewer/unbranded.aspx?tourid=816473
http://www.baysidenh.net/propertydetail.asp?id=4311974

Don't know much about Ruger

except that my ex sister-in-law used to work for them. Said it payed well but the QC wasn't the best.

I'm in NH now, but unfortunately I moved to the southern part rather than the north. But eh, family, what can you do right?

A signature used to be here!

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Beautiful place!

Beautiful place!

Debbie

About New Hampshire

..from a Native Son.
Imagine this being played at your opening day in the Liberty Community.
(prefaced by the commentary Tom gives here)

http://youtu.be/lBIhnzww9Ls

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Wow! The county I was born in and grew up in on the DailyPaul!

And Tom Rush, too! Brings back memories! Oh, and the state Hospital (asylum) was on Fruit AND Pleasant street! :)

That's NH for ya..

...fruits and nuts and great musicians.
They kinda go hand-in-hand don't they?
(Glad ya enjoyed the video)

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Danton Are You Serious?

What a gold piece!
My God, he described my own life back then.
In the 70's, I worked at a "private school" in E. Haddam CT. We had all the damaged goods kids. Rich, poor and in between. After I was there a few years we got this idea to take these students up north to NH. And make them climb, zip line, repel, canoe etc.
One day this rich teenager who never spoke in his life said, "I DID IT!" after we made him cross a rope bridge in a really terrifying, steep fjord.

That's when we got the idea to open a satellite campus for these guys.
We were just kids in our early twenties with a great headmaster who gave us a lot of freedom to create. Today that "satellite" campus is a network of alternative schools where miracles are daily and commonplace. Check it out. http://www.oliverianschool.org/newsite/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/inspiring.jpg
Becket Family of Services
http://www.becket.org/
The Oliverian School (The Crown Jewel of Becket Schools)
http://www.oliverianschool.org/

Great Story

..One always remembers the outstanding teachers.
I knew you had a "soft spot".
...then again, I suffer from the same afflication.
Glad to keep this thread "up there".....
Hope you get something going.
God Bless.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

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I can see

a Cessna 172 taking a trip over there and scoping out the run way for a little touch and go!!

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

It's Parlin Field, Newport, NH

With a "P"

I'm allergic to single engine, prop planes.

Twin engine jets are my friends. Parlin can handle up to a G IV.

And I know there are probably more single engine props flying than anything else in general aviation. And as a passenger I can ride shotgun... but ... well, you know. I'm part pussy, part chicken.

The Sunshine Town

About Newport
The Sunshine Town
By Dan O'Neill, Town Manager (former)

The Sunshine Town, Newport, NH is a small friendly town nestled in the hills of western New Hampshire, in the scenic upper Connecticut River Valley. It is conveniently located between Interstates 89 and 91. A rural community, populated of approximately 6,500 citizens, the town is managed by a five member Board of Selectmen and a Town Manager, and is the location of the County Seat of Sullivan County. Newport’s citizens are employed in a variety of manufacturing, professional and commercial businesses within a 40 mile radius of the town. Newport’s largest employer is Sturm Ruger & Co., a manufacturing concern with branches in Southport CT, and Prescott, AZ.
http://www.newportnh.net/index.php?nav=139

what are you planning?

selling parcels in a development?

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No

This is an alternative to a previous plan that I withdrew from due to environmental issues in Pennsylvania.

A place for a liberty minded remnant to live, work, create, prosper and propagate.
http://www.dailypaul.com/303431/bring-all-your-interests-her...

Just looking for serious, able, hard working, honest, people to exchange sweat for equity.

So an intentional community?

You are not going to claim to be Jesus, have sex with everyone's wives, and get raided by Janet Reno, are you? Lol.

Seriously though, beautiful land up there. I am in Washington state, which is also really beautiful and has mild winters. Lots of rain, which keeps everything green, but not much snowfall. I think we had about 1 or 2 inches of snow all winter.

Why Not?

...sounds like a good idea.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Nothing wrong with an

Nothing wrong with an intentional community, they sound attractive on some levels.

As far as cults, with a cult leader, for some reason God always wants them to have sex with other guy's wives.

I highly recommend the movie Wanderlust.
The main character does something the leader of the supposed leaderless society does not like and he asks him to stop. Th main character says that he thought there was no rules, and the leader tells him you are right there are no rules, but the rest of us would prefer you did not do that.

I don't know about intentional community

Seems to be a lot of baggage around the term.
Some cases it's just institutionalized co-dependency.

I prefer to offer people opportunity. They are their own sifting mechanism.
Give them responsibility and some freedom to create. They either grow or they go.
As it snowballs it becomes an apprentice and mentor environment.
I've done it before and the only rules are common sense respect for one another, a desire to grow, learn and contribute.
When that's the background of reality everyone benefits.

more about that

I always look at people with this question in mind;
Would I want this person taking over when I'm gone?

So far I haven't figured out how to get a house or car or farm into the grave with me...
So everything I do is really for those who build into it. It's their product. It's theirs to keep.

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Why not

Why not come out West.. the fumes from Europe are a lot farther away!

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

Fumes from Europe?

..you gotta be kidding, right?
The jet stream flows west to east.
Air Pollution from the Ohio River Valley flows to "some " areas of the NorthEast US....Penna, NY gets the "acid-rain" from the factories, mills, (which are mostly closed down these days)

Meanwhile the West Coast is being bombarded with the atomic waste from Fukishima.

BTW: NH gets NONE of that pollution.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I looked out west in 2011. I

I looked out west in 2011.
I don't like what California refugees are doing to Northern Nevada.

So much desert and so little water.

New Hampshire still has common sense in abundance.
And plenty of clean air & water.

I will have to deal with the winters.

Pittsburgh has spoiled me with relatively, mild northeast winters.

But new solar and hydroponics have eliminated many of the concerns of colder climate like New Hampshire.

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This was pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HewwI7cX1yg

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

Strategic relocation...

I was really taken by Joel's work a few years ago.

But it's more likely we would have to endure another inside job which would by it's nature be limited in scope.

Utah and Nevada have their own problems that could help them implode from within.

Water is a bug deal. A very big deal. And in a communist run country they won't think twice about killing off communities by withholding water.

That's why I've chosen New Hampshire. Lots of very clean water.

I grew up about 20 miles from Newport, NH

and remember buying shoes at that brick building in the picture, as it was a shoe factory. After I was an adult, and the factory had closed, nearby, in Giles, I believe, was Ruger, and quite a few of our friends at church worked at Rugers, and they loved it, as for working so many hours, they got free guns. Ruger was a good employer for many people in the area.