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I thought this bit on Cognitive Dissonance informative.

If this is what you are getting at, I agree.


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Seems like you are

Seems like you are contradicting yourself in a way. On the one side you believe, but on the other you do not.

I think your point boils down to this part of what you posted:

"but attributing to them extra powers of evasion through some kind of magical/satanic power is ludicrous"

Sure, I've read about the crazy sounding rituals, some of the evil practices, etc. Whether or not that part is all true I consider really to be a secondary issue.

What it comes down to is that there are many loosely and tightly organized & secretive groups in which the members work together for what often appears to be nefarious goals.

But "magical"? Other than the wild rituals/practices I never noticed people considering them as "magical" as in Harry Potter abilities, if that is what you are meaning.




"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire

youre an idiot

I live in Hollywood. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about.

Its real.

I've lived in LA as well most

I've lived in LA as well most of my life. There are many occult groups here and everywhere, but most are nothing more than social clubs or religious/spiritual groups. My point is, people attribute more influence and power to these groups than what they deserve.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire

Again you are wrong

Again you are wrong

All I know is that time and again

when you trace back the names behind the deeds, it's roots go back to the same *religious* tribe. There's a reason apparently why they've been kicked out of so many countries throughout the course of time.

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