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Does Smuge Pot live or die?

Here is a question and I am seriously gonna listen to your input and I will explain why.

Some of you know that I am sick, I have this horrible illness and I fight it ever single day but it's a losing battle. I have so far outlived expectations that I actually feel silly still standing here.

I have been holding onto hope that somehow medical science might come up with a cure.

Miracle of miracles, we think it's here! 93% effective. It can't come fast enough to undo the damage that my body has taken but it could buy me another decade. Imagine that! That would put me into "normal" life span.

Thing is the stuff costs like $80k and let's just be honest here: for $80k you should be able to buy a whole clone army of Smudge Pots. For $80k you should get the patent on my genome and an endless supply of Smudge Pots. Forget it. Ain't gonna happen.

But if I sign up for the Obama/medicare thing, I get these pills for free and that buys me a new lease on life.

OK let's take it real. You know and I know that this cure, this medicine would be coming from you to me. Somebody has a gun to somebody's head. It would be nothing less than rank and filthy CAPITULATION and we know that is WRONG.

Well ideology is nice and all but I literally have this decision to make. Take the cure and live longer or die faster.

The one thing I want to know: would I be letting you guys down to take this cure? Or would that be one step too far?


Cause if that's the way it is? Then I'll hold the line. And that's how much I think of you guys. I'd rather die for something than because of something.

Tell me. Would I be letting you guys down if I took this cure? I guess it's kind of a stupid question but I want to hear it from you.

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So, to recap, the answer is Not Today.

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Do you remember my post about food stamps?

200+ comments and we still haven't figured out the right thing to do.

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take the cure and live to fight the system that cured you another day, we need Smudge Pots to stick around to help us fight the machine. Use the machine to destroy the machine, get your medicine.

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What have you been eating the whole time Chris?

That post was a while ago.

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I don't pay taxes

so have at it (-;

Even if I did pay taxes it would be great to say where my money is going to be used. It would rock if you can say that zero goes to salaries, zero goes to military/defense, zero goes to police and then itemize % for items you would rather it go towards.

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LittleWing's picture

"I'm going to die now - unless death wants to fight!"

Smudge, if you want to fight, then fight! Today is NOT a good Day to Die!
Little Big Man- Chief Dan George Goes up to the mountain to die.

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

Take the cure dude.

Why post a question for the obvious answer here?

If the government

was the only place issuing food in crisis would you not eat and would you starve your family? Of course not.

You play in the system you HAVE to play when you have no other choice... live man and continue to fight to change things so others don't have to make these choices...


Should live.

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I don't know exactly how this might help you, Smudgy, but I trust that everyone who takes time to learn what's in this half-hour video, will absolutely benefit from applying what they learn here!

There's a part 2, that fills in even more valuable info;


Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

All that we can do is just survive...

"All that we can do is just survive
All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive"


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I will always recommend alternatives, but I know that . . .

they can also be very costly, even if it is just a really 'natural' diet--

But, no, Smudge Pot, I wouldn't feel that you were taking anything from *me*, not at all.

Spouse and I plan to be fined; we refuse to participate, because we don't do drugs.

I am skeptical of drugs. But I think you are the only one who can choose to do what is right for you.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--


The sign up on the website ended on March 31 that by law was not allowed to exclude for pre-existing conditions.

This resumes Nov 1. But I'm guessing you can wait until then.


I suppose you would know that extracting and redirecting resources from the system is something we should be thinking of ways to do.

The two concerns I would have are (1) Does this cause me to be dependent? and (2) Does this contribute to my health and effectiveness?

Neither of those has to do with some notion that I am responsible for the theft of the resources. It's not from us to you. It's from *the thugs who stole it from us* to you. Once it is stolen from us, we can do nothing about it, except attempt to make sure it is not put to use to continue our oppression.

Actually, I shouldn't say "us" because any responsible person will not allow more resources to be confiscated from their wealth creation by the thugs than they extract from the thugs. This is the way we must think as long as we have thugs with power. We must think this way until we bleed them dry or they kill us.

Speaking of killing us, I think my primary concern would be number (2) above. Speaking very personally, I find value in living naturally, and I would rather face death than injest most pharmaceutical chemicals. Of course, I feel I've lived long enough, and I've probably lived a bit longer than you. But that's all up to you to decide. You won't be taking anything from me. If you can take it from them (the O-care thugs for example) and it benefits you and you maintain or increase your independence, then you are giving to me---and my children, who I have reasonable hope will see the most dangerous superstition overthrown and this evil beast slain.

This is a false dichotomy

The choice is between TREATMENT--Big Pharma, Obamacare, etc.--or seeking a CURE through natural medicine, such as that offered by Dr Thomas Rau. You can look at www.drrausway.com and correspond with him. What he offers is probably not so cheap, but it is nothing like what Big Pharma charges for its treatments.


Oh Smudgepot, I wouldn't begrudge you for choosing Obamacare!

However, remember that medical science comes out with a "cure" all the time. Please don't put your faith in it--you will be sorely disappointed (especially if you have gone against what you believe).

This illustration is a bit beyond Obamacare, but it involves the same principle. I once read of a couple of Chinese girls who were arrested, along with their pastor, for being Christians. The guards told one of the girls if she would recant and execute her own pastor (thereby proving her sincerity) she would be set free. She chose to do it. The guards laughed and then shot her anyway.

Evil people and systems are NEVER trustworthy.

I truly want you to live, and if you choose the pills and they end up working, I would be thrilled! I'll be praying for you.

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Side effects?

You still have work to do. Continue to do the will of truth and you will have grace. Do you think a pill will change that appointed hour we must all face? What does your faith tell you to do? What side effects are associated with the medication?

You would not be letting me

You would not be letting me down at all. Definitely get on the program and take the meds.


Do what you know is right. LIVE Well!

Damn be the consequences man. You did not create the rules or the system you are in. Do whatever you have to. But always choose life. Always fight to live. You and your morals are useless to us dead.

Always fight to live

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Well done.

time is wasted in minutes not hours

SImple (not so simple)

I know nothing about you or your illness, but I believe you should do whatever you feel is right. Forget about everyone else, subsidies, politics, and opinions.

I have the same disease I think

Toohandsometoberealitis. Which is exactly why I have a picture of my dog as my profile pic. Because my toohandsometoberealitis would probably just blow everyone away and I don't think that they could handle it. I'm denying myself the cure. Not because of my moral opposition to Obamacare, just because it is difficult being so damn handsome and misunderstood and I want to go down as a legend.

Take the F_&*ing cure smudge!

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scawarren had a good comment below

and it bears repeating: the medicine wouldn't cost so much if it weren't for gov't interference.

Big Pharma can price it so high because it KNOWS that it will be subsidized.

Same thing as college tuition and probably lots of other things.

Get well Smudge Pot.

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Life wants you to live

There is only one thing we say to death: Not today

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Ah, an easy one : please go for it

Ah, an easy one : please, go for it, and without even a second thought, if you know it's the stuff that will help.

These are the typical circumstances in which scams a la Obamacare can somehow be "positive", for the most unfortunate few.

If you, who actually need its lever for a reason, don't use it ... Others will find their way to abuse it, anyway - on either end (and I'd just hate the idea that *you* would have decided to place yourself after those).

Wishing you the best.

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