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Justin Amash on getting elected as a libertarian, stopping the NSA, and karaoke-ing for liberty (Glenn Beck radio 4/1/14)



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Beck is a lying, hypocrite RAT who I give no credence to.

He hated Ron Paul.

He hates Arabs, Muslims and any middle easterner who isn't Jewish.

He's a Neo-Con, war-monger, alcoholic IDIOT who helped damage Dr. Paul's campaigns WHEN IT REALLY COUNTED MOST.

I have no patience for rat republicans who (now that Ron Paul is no longer a factor) claim to be onboard with libertarian thinking.

Beck is NOT a Libertarian and he's not a constitutionalist.

He supports foreign aid which is UN-Constitutional at its very core.

Eff the establishment GOP, NEO-CON, HYPOCRITE Beck.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

You never hear Ron Paul say things like this

I think it's because Ron Paul hasn't given up. I expect myself to continue changing, growing and understanding more, so I expect others will do the same. I want to encourage this in others and I believe comments like this do the opposite.

I've been pissed with Beck and I've been proud of him, but the truth is he has apologized numerous times for his positions, and continues to. He's said how stupid and naive he's been. He's asked anyone in the studio to punch him in the face if he starts doing it again.

As BZQ says, he's usually saying the right things. He's hammering the GOP. He daily mentions "maximum freedom, maximum personal responsibility." It may all be a sham - he may not believe a word of it, but he's pointing people in the right direction and most importantly showing how easy it is for people to start by saying "I was wrong."

I want to hear Beck say these

I want to hear Beck say these words -

"I/we/my staff were wrong about our position on Ron Paul, both times that he ran. I apologize for marginalizing him and his supporters who called me on the phone and received airtime just to have me brush them off as isolationists and kooks. I was wrong to do that as well as my co-host Part Gray.

Both elections in which Ron Paul ran we fell into line with the GOP at the end of the day and I was wrong AGAIN to do that when I was preaching small government values but did NOT practice them myself when it came time to vote as well as informing my listeners.

Finally, I'd like to clarify that I did not have the impetus for a political group called "The Tea Party". That idea belongs to Ron Paul and his supporters from 2007. The concept of "The Tea Party" was great and I had a hand in hijacking it which diluted/neutered it's principles from day 1, thus turning it into a GOP/pro-Israel type group.

To make up for my lack of judgement I will personally seek to meet with Ron Paul and personally apologize to him for my back-handed comments I made about him after I had interviewed him on my radio program. I admit that Ron was right and I was wrong. I was a horses' ass for not listening to my audience instead of the GOP people that surrounded me".

*correction

correction should say 'co-host Pat Gray'.

He will

never say those words. It is not election time. Once election time comes, every thing he said for the passed 3 years will be a lie because he will flip flop on Cruz/Santorum or Bush.

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I would LOVE to hear

those words too. But it wouldn't change my mind about this evil deceiver. Words mean little in today's world, actions are what count most.

Maybe if Beck made the following promise: I will give the MAX FRNs allowed to Rand Paul's presidential campaign, and will encourage my followers to vote for him. Paul or no one at all. If he did that, then I'd consider thinking about possibly, potentially, giving him a bit slack.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

Me too

Actually, I was initially and stupidly surprised when the people I trusted took positions against Ron Paul, and I expected (or at least wanted) to hear something like those words.

I've accepted that they aren't coming (sort of), but I'm still pleased when Beck can admit being wrong about something and explain why. I'm still pleased when Beck promotes principals that Ron Paul brought to the forefront of American politics.

It certainly wasn't decades of talk radio that brought on this movement - that has only promoted polarization. If things get turned around, I credit Ron Paul. In the end though, it's not about Ron or Beck, it about millions of people understanding the principles of liberty. I've learned tons from Daily Paul members. I want as many people as possible to experience that.

Sounded like

a chip off the ol' Paul-block.

I think Beck knows what he's doing and is being paid well...

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

We do not live in the perfect world

He surely acted like one in the past, however he is talking all the right things right now (most of the the right things right now). The fact that he was alcoholic or Idiot is irrelevant. Beck is calling himself libertarian himself now and that is a victory for the movement. He told sorry many times for what he did.

In fact not everyone is ideal as Ron Paul, but we should better have Beck rather not have him.

He is entitled to speak what he wants. Based on his today's public views, he would vote Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Justin Amash today.

We do not live in the perfect world.

Engage in Secure Exchange

actions > words

actions > words ... repeat.

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

words == actions

He's a talk show host, so words ARE his actions. But you're right - Beck has absolutely screwed up and he admits it himself.

Here's my concern: people who enjoy listening to Beck (typically Republicans), hear him turn against the GOP and begin promoting libertarianism, decide to educate themselves and end up here where Beck is generally bashed, so they decide libertarians suck (or at least the ones who like Ron Paul do) - and I've done it myself, so I'm blaming myself, too.

I'm not suggesting watering down the message. I'm not suggesting embracing anyone, but how about not throwing up roadblocks for people who are taking the first steps? Say what you need to say, but how about disagreeing on specifics, but also being willing to agree on specifics?

Unless, I missed it,

I didn't hear any mention of Ron Paul out of Justin. I heard Beck mention Rand, who is more of an Amash lite as a Libertarian, but no Ron? If it were not for the great Dr Ron Paul, there would be no Amash or Rand, and the good Dr deserves to be referenced as the Champion of Liberty!

Justin should have called out the US intervention in the Ukraine coup as the reason the Russians were aggrevated. Justin should have said how can we expect peace and good relations with the Russian if we continue to push for missiles in NATO countries surrounding them? We should be looking at the Cuban Missile Crisis to understand how Russia views the situation. We say they are anti-missile systems to protect from Iran, but when we are surrounding Russia with them, they oviously don't believe that. It seems only Ron Paul had the type of guts to call 'a spade a spade', and not cowtow to the neocom's and the establishment?

This exposes the phony propaganda used by Poland, mentioned in Beck's 'hyping' of the Russian threat. Russia's not ignorant to the fact, intervetionism is a detriment to the creation of a prosperous and sucessful nation. http://www.infowars.com/nato-exploits-phantom-russian-troop-...

I swapped out the tube in OP

with one that has video in addition to audio.

here's Justin on Fox Business

a few days ago if anyone missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k45V2c4EDK4