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"America Doesn't Give Because It's Rich. America Is Rich Because It Gives" - WHAT?


http://youtu.be/9GLLuiQ6YFA

I jumped out of my chair today when I watched some group of liars in the Congress or the Senate chambers observing a 'moment' (20 seconds) for the victims of Ft. Hood.

Some old fart stood there and said, "America Doesn't Give Because It's Rich. America Is Rich Because It Gives".

I was like WHAT?

America is the most technically broke country in the history of mankind?

No country has ever had such overwhelming debt. Debt that is impossible to ever pay off... EVER!



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I am sure he meant rich in another way

We are rich with crooked politicians
We are rich with wars on EVERYTHING and EVERYONE
We are rich with welfare
We are rich with corporatism
We are rich with laughter watching these yahoos pretend like they know what they are doing up there.

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"USA Inc. Doesn't Get Because It's Rich. USA Inc. Gets WHATever"


USA INC - exposing the thieves who stole our government 9 minute documentary. Extensively referenced.

USA Inc. A private corporation charted in Florida, 1925.

Understanding the reality of our government is essential for everyone to "realize, know, and understand". At the moment the American people do not have a legitimate government. As Rep Traficant said in 1993, it is "de facto".

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broke

It was our lord who said it is more blessed to give than to receive....this is undeniable. America is not broke because it gave too much and it is broke...... it is broke because it took too much... millions of lives in undeclared wars is a tremendous moral deficit. Only love and life creates a blessing....war and death only create chaos and deficit. When morality returns to America so will sound fiscal standing.

America is rich in ways other than money.

-Good people
-Natural resources

And despite our apathy at controlling the government and military, Americans are an incredibly charitable people. Ordinary people go above and beyond to help those in crisis every day. This is the quality that I love the most in Americans: generosity.

No offence but you have it backward.

Immorality doesn't cause statism.

Statism causes immorality.

As people see the government steal from them to give to others, they cease to see theft as wrong, instead they see theft as a game they want in on.

Before rampant statism, families stayed together not just from love, but from practical need. They were your support structure. As the state becomes the husband and father to single mothers there is no need for the family. Without the family the lies of the state stand unopposed.

When churches and beneficent civic and religions institutions were where you had to go if you were in need, they provided a moral lesson along with the help.

As the Rule of Law crumbles people see that the wicked are rewarded and the good are punished, and are incentivized to wickedness.

As the state engages in wars, killers are called heroes, prompting people to want to become killers.

I agree we've become a wicked country, but this is inevitable with the growth of the state.

Remove of reduce the engine of evil and people will become good again, but I don't see that it is possible for people to simply become good while the state is proselytizing evil.

America is not a human being,

America is not a human being, can not congress get that through their thinking caps?

It's a corporation which is better

It's a corporation which is better than a human in their eyes. Maybe because corporations make better shields for them to hide behind than humans do.

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Just wait till nobody outside Amerika wants the $FRNs any longer

Just wait till nobody outside Amerika wants the $FRNs any longer...

Sometimes, only a really cold shower can wake some folks up, for good, without failing.

That's usually, also, when the music and the party stop for the - oh so refined - people who've been living upstairs above your head.

Often, the Grand Cleanup Time then follows...

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To scale or not to scale...

What is the value of something you've made up that nobody wants?

What is its backing ratio vs. the liabilities you could devise through it, before figuring out there's the first question coming up, eventually?

3rd and last question :

what is the extent of implications after you've produced hundreds of trillions of that thing, eventually unwanted, with question (2) urging to receive its answer?

Here is just one hundred trillions, btw :

1 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0

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(Proverbs 11:1)

(Proverbs 11:1)

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I'd be worried this

is a leading indicator that a principle taken from the Health and Wealth Gospel, that you reap more than you give to whatever evangelist is hitting you up at the time, is going to be applied to government spending. It was bad enough when Israel as the chosen people was taken from some sects of Christianity and politicized.

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Translation: U.S. dollar hegemony

The United States is the "richest" and most indebted nation on the planet because it has the world's reserve currency, created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve. When that currency is given to, borrowed by and used in other nations, it maintains U.S. dollar hegemony, making the United States the "richest" and most indebted nation on the planet. The dollar is "loved and laundered" by bankers and drug dealers around the world, and if other nations don't accept and use it, they're in big trouble.

So one) The national debt

So one)

The national debt pales in comparison to the value of all that is in America.

Two)

America's government may have huge debts, but Americans are generally very rich people compared to the rest of the world.

Three)

The American government issues the currency. How can they be "broke" when they can issue all the money they want?

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

#1. All fiat currencies

#1. All fiat currencies fail.
#2. The debt won't go away.

#1. By that logic, all

#1. By that logic, all currencies fail. I don't see the gold-backed dollar in existence any more.

On a more serious note, fiat currencies in the modern form have only existed since 1971...that is, a currency that is backed by a world power, not convertible, with a floating exchange rate.

Who cares if the debt does not go away? The government is not a private individual. It doesn't manage money the same you or I needs to do.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Who cares?

The people that the debt is owed to care.

Why? Is the US having more

Why? Is the US having more debt going to prevent them from being able to pay it back?

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

That depends on how much more debt we incur

Possibly, at some point. I'm not sure where that point may be in the future. There are too many variables. It may be able to be paid back, but will we? If our government keeps paying the interest, the people owed may be happy with that. But if we can't, they will care.

I don't want to be in perpetual debt, and I'm sure many other Americans don't either. There are some more people that care other than just the ones that are owed. If you think no one cares, you are very wrong.

The US government can,

The US government can, literally, print the money. So why is there any fear that they won't be able to pay it back? Unless the US government no longer exists in the future, they would be able to print money to meet any demand.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Big round of applause...

Thank you Dr. No for sharing your thoughts with us.

On a more serious note

This is not a government. It's an organized crime syndicate.

Sooner or later all criminal organizations fall apart.

America is self-deceived rich.

Those are useless

Those are useless catch-phrases that I have no use for.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

I don't care

As long as you keep bumping this thread so others can think about the issue.

Thanks.

Correction ....

Three)

The Federal Reserve issues the currency.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

4) Debt isn't a threat unless (and until) the dollar dies

When money is debt and debt is money
The nation with the most debt is the richest
Until the dollar dies

"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."—Dick Cheney

Why would the dollar die?

Why would the dollar die?

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

If you're interested

The Death of Money: The Coming Collapse of the International Monetary System by James Rickards

http://www.amazon.com/The-Death-Money-Collapse-International...

Appreciate the link. Have not

Appreciate the link. Have not read that book; however, I have read currency wars and found it to be worrisome. Fundamentally, Rickards doesn't understand how the monetary system in the US (and perhaps globally) works. There is a heavy emphasis on using praxeological/like models vs. facts and data.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Time will tell

who knows how the monetary system works.

If we can print our way to prosperity, let the presses roll.

If it is no longer needed to purchase oil?

maybe

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche