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Weekend Watching: PBS Frontline - Generation Like

I have to watch and discuss this documentary for a macroeconomics class. My instructor has graded my work pertaining to the A.C.A. and minimum wage harshly, as I have offered free market viewpoints on both. I can't wait until I'm done with college, if I survive of course! I found this documentary to be disturbing from an ethical standpoint.

PBS Frontline - Generation Like
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365181302/

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I'll tell you this: most kids these days are pretty much USELESS

They can't write or spell, they can't budget time, they can't use a screwdriver, they don't know how to sail a boat or paddle a canoe, they can't work on engines, they don't know how to build a fire or pitch a tent or sharpen a blade, they can't tie a fish hook, they are politically ignorant and disinterested, they can't cook for themselves, they can't do basic math, good thing nobody has to balance a checkbook anymore or good heavens, they couldn't even manage to spend money.

They can eat, hang out online, work game controllers and use body care products.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

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I had a nice time with you tonight, on the app

Last Sunday, I spent a lazy afternoon with my boyfriend. We chatted while I made brunch, discussed the books we were reading, laughed at some cat pictures and then settled down with dinner, before bidding each other good night.

We did all of this despite living more than 3,000 miles apart, thanks to smartphone applications and services that helped to collapse time and space. Video chat apps like Google Hangouts, FaceTime and Skype, of course, already make it possible to see and talk to one another in real time. But those formats can be awkward and require both parties to coordinate a time to talk and find someplace quiet with a decent Internet connection — a challenge with busy schedules in different time zones.

I prefer to use applications that already figure into my daily routine, like Google’s instant-messaging application, Gchat, as well as Facebook Messenger, Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat. This way, we can talk about travel plans while I’m waiting for the train or talk about what he’s making for dinner while I’m at work.

I’ve found that all of my conversational habits have matured beyond the static phone dates of yore. We are now in constant and continuous communication with our friends, co-workers and family over the course of a day. These interactions can help us feel physically close, even if they happen through a screen.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/i-had-a-nice-time-w...

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Continued...

Sherry Turkle, the author of “Alone Together,” says she believes that using an application in place of real-world, face-to-face interactions is having a detrimental effect on how we prioritize offline communication and, potentially, on our ability to interact even when we aren’t relying on technology as a mediator.

“We’ve given ourselves something so gratifying that we can forget other ways we can communicate,” she said. “What starts out being better than nothing becomes better than anything.”

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/i-had-a-nice-time-w...

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Generation like....OMG that is so adult duh

generation like what? hello it's called complete sentences OMG WTF ttyl.

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There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

It's not my generation. I Don't like anything ;-)

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As all college courses

especially from public universities; you are going to always be outnumbered by irrational, heavily biased professors. I never felt that I had to compromise my arguments or opinions, nor did I ever rrfrain from doing so. Some teachers Inwas there worst nightmare, others were a little more receptive of the points and arguments I made and brought to the class.

The key is as hard as some professors are dead set and encorce the beliefs they have, you have to remain respectful to some degree of them; or at least open to them. Right now I'm finishing my PHI degree, and I have 1 500 level course to finish to graduate. I cant stand any of the classes offered, so I sat down with the head of the department and I entertained my appeal to take a independent study so I could introduce the libertarian school into the picture. Now, I had to be incredibly persuasive as no professor would sign on to a course dedicated to solely libertarian study. The professor i asked is a Rawls scholar, so of course I entertained the idea of drawing a comparison b/w Rawls and Nozick primarily, just so he would consider some of the deeper thinkers of libertarianism i really wanted to get into. Currently after reading a ton of Rawls, I have this guy reading Rothbards Ethics of Liberty which he isnt even familiar with as part of the course. It took a lot of work to get there, but i also learned a great deal along the way. As long as your semi respectful and open to there views you have a good chance of them being able to genuinely consider your arguments hat you would like to entertain against theres.

I just finished a huge research paper for an intership im doing now in state politics for a state bill. I did it on the minimum wage raises, and I think it came out pretty well. It has the chance to be publishd though I doubt that will happen, but it was such an easy bill to critique to all the fallacious reasoning used to justify the bill. Hell, I just plugged some Hazlitt and bastiat economic fallacies and showed how due to simple supply and demand logic that raising the wage floor means decreasing the work available. Grounded it all in deductive axiomatic reasoning, and disproved the major "broken window" fallacy they relied their analysis on. I even interviewed a Non-profit who was an outspoken critique and showed how it would turn there industry into a minimum wage industry and worsen off those unskilled laborers it was intended to help.

Oh boy!

I had been looking forward to, Into to Environmental Sciences.. it was a new curriculum to the college of the sciences at the Univesity I attended, 1984 Junior year, and nearly a decade of beach cleanups, protests, rallies behind me. I considered myself a conservationist.

The professor had an agenda that I was unaware, training furture UN Agendists. Some of his classes, I think I sat there with my mouth open as I was in such horrid disbelief what he was saying. And I was paying for this.. and being a military brat, I wasn't groomed to question authority (which is an ace, use it wisely).

If I had to do it over, I would have put my own book of ewxperiences on the shelf and been a robot, learned what he was saying with an open mind, and done my best to ACE the class. It's not about agreeing with him, it's about understanding his agenda. The better you understand it, the better you can "his" question authority/agenda.

So, if you're going to stick with the class.. don't teach him. Ace the class. What does he want to read?

Sometimes you get a glimpse at how ugly the world is.

This show really illustrates how fallen things are. How absolutely sad to watch people put so much of their lives into meaningless pursuits, even those that have made a buck. In so many ways it just highlights the emptiness of it all while still offering a false hope of a never ending cycle of wanting more of something that can never satisfy.

While this technology has vast potential for good, very little of that could be found from the most prolific users of the medium. Self-gratification is like a living hell.

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Well said

This whole video is so adolescent, reminds me of HS. What's popular, who's popular, hopefully when they grow up they will realize that not all resides in "self". These people will mature when they meet the real world with real responsibilities.
Self gratification is right.

Ark closed or not...

this is the future.

The real question is how we grasp this, encourage it.. and get those young folks to 'like' it.

Lee Atwater would wish for a platform like this.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Why waste time on college?

In a few hours you can learn how to print up a fake degree certificate on your home PC.

Just list a college degree on your resume, and keep the certificate handy in case anyone wants to see it, which they won't. No one is going to call a college to verify a degree. If they do call and find out something, they won't hire you, which they wouldn't have done without a degree in the first place.

Just don't try to pretend to be a lawyer or a doctor, but faking a 4 year business degree is doable. The kid that prints up a fake degree is already a smarter business man than the one that racks up a ton of debt.

Seriously? By doing/condoning

Seriously?

By doing/condoning this, you dilute the efforts and money invested by all of us that actually worked our butts off to obtain legitimate college degrees.

Do you also partake in and condone voter fraud?

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

The whole voting system is a

The whole voting system is a fraud. An electoral college is b.s. Not participating in a rigged voting system is an option, but not putting food on the table is not, at least in my world.

College degrees are diluted to begin with, which is why so many work at minimum wage after college. I doubt this is a product of college diploma fraud. I have a high school diploma and I make more than some people with college degrees, because I provide my employer with more value for their money than them.

A college degree equaling a good job is not a guarantee. If you want fair, you should give up Austrian economics, and become a utopian communist. Life isn't fair, and free markets are cut throat. Both communism and free markets have a commonality, both have poor people. You would be upset if you had a college degree and were on food stamps, but would probably be just fine with driving around in a nice car while a high school dropout was on food stamps. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game. Most rich people I have met, have a shady selfish streak in them. Nice guys finish last.

Don't even THINK of following this advice.

They usually DO check references and degree certifications these days.

If you EVER lie about it, even if they don't check and do hire you, it will be hanging over your head forever. At any moment, even years later, they MIGHT check (like if a co-worker who sees you as a threat, or annoying, prods them). If you faked it you are likely to be fired instantly, regardless of how good your work was.

And once you're caught at it, it will follow you forever.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Mike Huckabee said he had a theology degree.

And he doesn't. He lied, that's why he's doing so well on FOX.

When did common sense become a super power? –Patrick F. Holman

I just got a better job a

I just got a better job a week ago, and they did not call my personal references, my last boss, or check my military record. Everything I represented was the truth but it did not need to be. Most don't check. Has any employer actually ever asked to see your high school diploma??

How is a coworker that feels threatened going to call up and verify your degree with a college? Really, colleges just hand that info out? Yes if you get caught lying you will be fired, but if you didn't lie in the first place, you would not have been able to get the job. Fake it till you make it, get it? People don't pad resumes ever?

If you lie it will follow you forever? Really, what world are you living in? I am not suggesting misrepresenting yourself as having a degree in brain surgery and harming people, I am suggesting faking a bachelors in business or something else that will get you into an entry level position with a private company. If you are a good employee no one will ever look, and even if you did have a degree they will fire you if you are not competent at your job. College is a scam in most cases.

You sound like you are well brainwashed into fearing authority, and complying with what society expects. It is that kind of attitude that keeps the status quo that we have. Meanwhile you pine for change in passive aggressive website participation here. If the whole system is screwed up, why do you look down on the idea of not playing by the rules? Are you the type that wants revolution, just so long as others fight it for you?

You are a sociopath who cares

You are a sociopath who cares nothing for the effects of your actions on others. You disgust me.

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A economic system based

A economic system based around the survival of the fittest is sociopathic. All is fair in love and war, and economics is warfare. I consider it war because the losers have less for their families, including lacking proper housing, healthy food, and health care. They are often left with seeking welfare, and dependent on the system. Yes the system is what it is, and if you are forced to play in the mud, you might have to get dirty.

Unlike the game of monopoly, everyone doesn't start out with the same advantages in this life, which is not fair, which is why surviving in a rigged game is morally acceptable. Like I said before, I am not suggesting anyone claim to be a neurosurgeon or anything like that, and cause others harm. What I am suggesting is that if you can get away with fudging your war into an entry level job, and it poses no harm to others, go for it.

One could point to the person that did get a degree, and would have had that job, but like I said, our economic system is survival of the fittest. If you want things to be "fair", I suggest you convert to communism. That other person does not feel bad enough about getting a job over you that they want to split their paycheck with you while you sit home, so screw em. Get the job, and provide your employer value for the paycheck you receive. A utopian system would be great, and maybe someday it will come about, but until then a person has to provide for themselves and their families the best they can.

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All lies eventually catch up with you

This was a pretty big story around here a few years ago:

Dean at M.I.T. Resigns, Ending a 28-Year Lie

Marilee Jones, the dean of admissions at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, became well known for urging stressed-out students competing for elite colleges to calm down and stop trying to be perfect. Yesterday she admitted that she had fabricated her own educational credentials, and resigned after nearly three decades at M.I.T. Officials of the institute said she did not have even an undergraduate degree.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/us/27mit.html?_r=0

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A lot of things do catch up with people, but...

It is interesting that for 28 years M.I.T, the hub for smarties, was duped by an "uneducated" person. It goes to my original point that things are not usually checked out, especially at the entry level. It also proves my point that a degree is not always necessary to perform the functions of a job. For 28 years MIT was happy exchanging a paycheck for her performance. Everybody said they loved her there.

A good example would be a marketing degree. In school they give you creative projects to do, in the real world you are not asked to exercise creativity at the entry level. Creativity is not taught, it can be expanded, but it is pretty much a God given gift a person has or they don't. If you attended college Michael, no one taught you how to invent a libertarian website, it came from your creative mind. Certain degree paths need college for practical reasons, but a lot of degrees are total B.S. If you look at my comment above, I elaborate on my personal views regarding playing fair in an unfair system. If a system has no sympathy for you as a failure, why would a person think they should have sympathy for the system? No harm, no foul in my opinion. The first million is the hardest, and life is a whole lot easier financially if you are gifted that money through inheritance.

The school should perform an

The school should perform an analysis to determine her salary difference over the three decades if she had been paid as she should have been, as someone lacking an undergrad degree, and "request" that portion of her salary be returned. It's only fair.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

It's

the schools fault for not doing their due diligence and then not finding out for...how long? Obviously they were all convinced by the person's quality of work.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

So you honestly think that a

I don't disagree but you honestly don't think that a school, usually a beacon for contracts and other legal documents, did not have this woman sign off that all her responses and resume were factual "to the best of her knowldege"?!?! I will bet that at some point she signed that statement.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

I'm trying to figure out how someone

who professes to support a principled man like Dr. Ron Paul could be so willing to encourage others to lie. Maybe in your own words: "an open handed swat to the butt in rare circumstances" is in order. When someone starts spinning a web of deceit, eventually they are the one's that can not tell truth from fiction.

I guess you do background checks, or have a great memory...

based on a reference to a different post.

Ever heard the saying "fake it till you make it"?

So many people here (I don't know about you personally) are applauding Rand Paul for being a "chess player" with politics because telling the general public the truth would be a losing proposition. They think there is nothing wrong with being vague or evasive with one's opinions, so long as it leads to results. How is misrepresenting one's degree any different if they are delivering an employer a honest days work?

For starters, that's fraud.

I'm an employer, and I check. But most of the time it doesn't get that far. Most shysters don't make it past the first phone interview.

You might be surprised that some potential employers will call your references after they find out you've lied on your resume.

They tell them what a skunk you are, poisoning your resume for future job attempts.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Fraud?

Lying perhaps, but I think fraud is a bit strong unless you are pretending to be a doctor or something that can harm someone. Who is going to arrest you for it?

As an employer you check? Consider yourself in the 1% on that one partner.

-"You might be surprised that some potential employers will call your references after they find out you've lied on your resume."

Don't they call, and that is how they find out you lied? How do they know you lied before they check?

-"They tell them what a skunk you are, poisoning your resume for future job attempts."

Not sure what you mean by this statement.

If you are a hard worker, and provide your employer with value for their wages, where is the problem?

I just started a better job last week, leaving an employer that hated to lose my hard working arse. The new employer did not call my previous employer, nor did they call my personal references. They also did not ask to see my military record. Everything I put down was truthful, however there was no need for it to be. Either I perform to expectations or I get fired, simple as that.

The OP stated that his views on free markets were causing him to receive unfair grades, how is that not wrong? I remember the comedian George Carlin saying that the system want good little compliant workers. I don't have a college degree, but I have taken some college, and it is a joke. The whole time I was bored out of my mind, surrounded by idiots, and felt like I was receiving dog training, not an education.

In a fascist system, a person has to do what they have to do. I haven't faked a business degree or anything like that, but I would not judge a person that did. To think that you owe an employer the truth, is along the lines of thinking they owe you a job, which they do not. A person trades their labor for a paycheck, and if your performance is lacking you will be fired, case closed. Wasting money on a college degree when you can fake it, makes you a schmuck.

I once applied for a job I didn't really want.

When they asked me for proof of a degree, I stuck it in my scanner and sent them a copy without taking it out of the dollar store picture frame I stored it in. I still work there. I think you are right. No one gives a crap any way.

A quote from, Lao-Tzu, seems to fit here

"The perfect way is without conflict,
only by avoiding all likes and dislikes will all be perfectly clear,
A split hairs difference and you separate heaven and earth"
Lao-Tzu also spelled Laozi

"libertarian economist Murray Rothbard suggested that Laozi was the first libertarian, likening Laozi's ideas on government to F.A. Hayek's theory of spontaneous order".

You think the point of university is for getting good marks

and "learning"? Probably not. Just have fun and get exposure to stuff instead. You lost marks for telling it like it is on a paper. What a riot. The only thing better would have been if you got to watch the prof read it. In my mind, that's a paper worthy of hanging on the fridge. University is an obstacle. You're obviously already aware of that. So, just do the minimum to get by and don't let it get in the way of YOUR learning. If you're a gluten for punishment and you're trying to get into a competitive graduate school, or something, then maybe you have to play their game and go covert until you are done. Otherwise, forget it. No one is ever going to look at your grades or care.