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Ruby Ridge-style standoff brewing as Bundy says he is prepared to be killed

Ruby Ridge-style standoff brewing as Bundy says he is prepared to be killed

Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com
April 7, 2014

A Ruby Ridge-style standoff is brewing in Nevada, where dozens of armed federal agents are closing in on cattle rancher Cliven Bundy over claims that Bundy has allowed his cows to graze illegally on government land, endangering a protected species of tortoise.

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Vowing to take a stand for, “your liberty and freedom,” Bundy says he is prepared to be killed as authorities surround a 600,000 acre section of public land as a result of Bundy violating a 1993 Bureau of Land Management ruling which changed grazing rights in order to protect the endangered desert tortoise.

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Somebody needs to get their stories straight!

The U.S. Bureau of Land Management announced it will kill hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it's been caring for at a Nevada conservation facility. The slaughter is being blamed on a lack of funds by the agency From the Washington Post:

Federal funds are running out at the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center and officials plan to close the site and euthanize hundreds of the tortoises they’ve been caring for since the animals were added to the endangered species list in 1990.
This was august 2013 now they are willing to kill for the Tortoise Bet the poor creature wishes the government would get away from them also.

Seems Like It's Over To Me

Only thing left for BLM to do is round up the herd, sell it, & pocket the proceeds. No one is going to stop them from doing it. The r@ncher should h@ve sold off the herd while he still h@d control over it. Too l@te now.

Here's an update from today


Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Great to see people standing

Great to see people standing with the farmer, but gawd that song is awful lol... All I hear is Red White and Murka! Had to mute it.

Yeah, that song...

...makes me wince every time I hear it. Makes me think of neo-con foreign policy, Sean Hannity, etc.

Every American patriot

Every American patriot country song made in the last decade makes me cringe over the neo-cons, but at least they are patriots to some extent.

No persistent vapor trails?

That sure is a beautiful blue sky in them parts.




Those who serve, protect, and defend Liberty do so with or without a license and a pay check.

Those who serve, protect, and defend their power to lie, threaten, and destroy innocent people do so for a fat paycheck they draw out of their criminal, fraudulent, bank accounts.



The evidence is a paper trail leading to the worst of the worst who tell the biggest lies and draw the fattest pay checks.


Rule of Law means something specific and the worst criminals are fully aware of that specific meaning.



Anyone claiming that those criminals are anything but criminals aids and abets those criminals by helping them cover up their crimes with false fronts.

Anyone claiming that there is no tried and true remedy is either ignorant, stupid, or a damn liar who is probably earning a living as a liar.

Good luck with that.


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Perhaps those "vapor

Perhaps those "vapor trailers" took the day off because it was real pretty in west Texas too :)

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain


Oh for more days when life is good and getting better, because we the people demand and supply such things on our own authority?


The first ammendment area looks a little small to me

The sign should be placed on the inside of the orange coral.

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

The Inside Spot

...is where the "2nd @mmendment @re@" sign belongs. :)

Sounds like Mad cows are terrorizing him

Gun? check
mags? check
ammo? check
food? check
Shirt? Dang
Not ready then... BreakingThreads.com

Connecticut Gun Confiscations

Tyranny vs Liberty - Connecticut


Two sides of this story which could be realevant to many a cause

If this gets 'bumped' a ton of times in many places the media will swarm and the raid will not happen. If the raid does not happen Now it will just happen later. I don't know how to get the best outcome, but supporters standing at the side of Bundy is probably much more a real message than a bunch of media trying to catch the drama. Nevada isn't really that far away from many.

This link suggests nobody

This link suggests nobody gives a crap about tortoises.


makes you wonder

Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner (or some other reptile) probably want that land.


Well at least someone is ready to make a stand.... The state always killing, always stealing, always raping, always. Never expect anything less.

So he asserts traditional, hereditary claim to the land.

Interesting. I seem to recall another people who asserted so.

It's always intriguied me how Western ranchers, loggers, other "concerns" have been essentially given resources or allowed to "lease" the for dirt cheap prices. The cattle industry has enjoyed every benefit of government protections and handouts over the years and it continues to even now. Bit cattlemen used to be the politicians, the deal makers, the big men in back rooms that swept all the rest of us aside to make room for PROGRESS and COMMERCE and INDUSTRY.

People speak of environmental impact, heck, about every open water source in Arizona is contaminated with shistosomes and other flora from a cow's butt. They were ruinous to our former diverse species of fish, unique in all the world. Most of those are gone, seeya, bye.

There's places where power lines go through and some of their bases are fenced in. Cows graze around them. Wanna see the difference in species variation? In the abundance of birds and buzzing creatures that visit inside those fenced specs? That's what's left of their ecosystem. See you see AN ECOSYSTEM here and you assume it's the NATURAL ECOSYSTEM. It's not. It's a modified ecosystem. It's been altered to accommodate cows for the most part and agriculture and then mining. Which activity poisoned much of our waters with mercury and arsenic. You aren't supposed to eat the fish here really. You get sick from eating too many.

Yeah don't worry about that none.

So here's this guy claiming traditinoal hereditary land that he makes no case for ever having bought. He just wants free use of it. And apparently the other animals there can just kinda deal with it because they apparently don't have this hereditary right. Neither did the original human occupants.

Well we might ask, what about the rest of us? The gentleman answers in a way suggesting ALL NEVADANS share this right. And I'm guessing that should be good news to Nevadans as the real estate holdings per capita just took a MASSIVE, MASSIVE step up. Not that it's gonna help much with the cattle industry.

The fact is, the American Western rancher can't compete with beef brought in from places where there's lots more rain and lots more grass. I mean did it ever occur to you that it's really not easy to raise cattle in a desert? It's not easy to raise ANYTHING in a desert. Like by definition. You need TONS OF LAND. Around here we used to run 1 cow in 10 acres. You read that right. That's why desert ranches were so humongous. You need a lot of really fragile desert ecosystem for cows to go stomping all over and eating all available grass. Well now we're shipping in beef from as far as China and from all over South America. US farmers can't even compete with their subsidies and handouts. Ranching is dying out in Arizona too but it's not cause people stopped eating hamburgers. The ranching has gone to more profitable climated and in places where the new concentrated feed lot model can be implimented. That's where they load them into pens and stuff them full of corn and antibiotics. These are economic facts and it's also what's between your buns. Ha ha.

Anyways, how do we feel about that from a propertarian perspective? Did we just call capitalism into question and basically allow that we can all just claim a piece of land where we were born or grew up? And how do we apportion that? Whoever gets there first? Seems the rich own all the best land so how long are we gonna be satisfied with our patch of swamp or arid desert? Or have I missed the point?

See this guy says he's ready to go down fighting but I'm really not sure what for.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

By your reasoning

no one owns the land.

Ok. So should the BLM round up his cows or not? After all, no one owns the land except maybe the indians (whom you identify with.) And cows are nasty creatures.

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Thanks, Smudge.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

Do you live in the desert.

Also even what you call natural was maybe only natural for a few thousand years. (systems biology - suggest that it's the life that makes the ecosystem not in reverse -- so technically whoever is there is natural). This is why human cities are void of life, in fact it's sort of the opposite. You might see humans as cancer, must of us don't.

Without dinosaurs roaming the earth is that like the athiest version of original sin? Only then can we live naturally?


or it could be that fossil evidence tells us more than "maybe".

The fossil records tell us these highly specific desert adapted creatures and plants evolved over MILLIONS of years.

But hey, maybe they didn't. Always take maybe into account.

Maybe the tortise will grow wings and fly away to a new desert where they will be happy. If not I think we can maybe assume these stupid turtles are just beign stubborn.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Can you post a link to nevadas

"Maybe the tortoise will grow wings and fly away". Technically according to your first statement isn't that actually true, or possible? LOL

(considering my knowledge in biology) You do realize that when you say animal you mean a self-replicating organism that will adapt TO ANYWHERE. That is epigenetics, this is why humans can practically live anywhere.

Smudge more pot bud.

Dude, you're on a ROLL!

And a good one, indeed!

What would the Founders do?

Incredibly dry desert there

similar to climate in Las Vegas. I think the rainfall ave is less than 7" per year. So dry there's not much except sage brush and rocks.

I think if anything these cattle would help fertilize soil for the benefit of other species.


"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

May you continue to

against all evidence and logic.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

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Thanks for making valid points


I suggest we teach the old boy and his peeps aquaponics and

permaculture. We don't need no stinking cows!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Permaculture ftw! It can be

Permaculture ftw!

It can be done anywhere on the world... well maybe not Antarctica lol


Permaculture can green the desert

Of course it does take some effort and knowledge. Thanks for posting this.

100 permaculture up-votes

... in a perfect world!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown