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I'm getting SO Fing Pumped about Rand and the WAR we're all about to get into!

I'm in Richmond Virginia now, Instead of Hawaii so if anyone knows some good people I can link up with here please post or pm me! Two years til we win!

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What district are you in..here in Richmond?

If its District 7 then you need to help get rid of Eric Cantor.
Dave Brat is running against him.


"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Michael Nystrom's picture

I'm watching

And I'm not one of those to start humping Rand's leg just because he says something I agree with. Glenn Beck says things I agree with sometimes. Hell, Rush Limbaugh does too. I'm circumspect with this one in a way I wasn't with his father. There is a coldness to him. I don’t sense a warmth there. Where’s Calcifer? You could feel it in his father. Rand is more like Michael Corleone. Cold as a shark. And maybe that is what we need right now. Like Michael Corleone in this scene. Watch it. Al Pachino as Rand Paul. It is intense.


I think Rand is going to go in and fuck some shit up. He already is. It is fun to watch. This drama with Cheney hasn't played out yet fully. There is more to come. He's got the left - MSNBC, The Young Turks, talking. This is important. He's already got some young people on this side. Can he capture some young people on the other side, without you guys pissing them off? Do you see your role here? Make friends with the left.

How else do you expect to win against Hillary? Rand needs to poach. And that makes for interesting entertainment.

But I don’t want to become emotionally involved with the candidate. Getting emotionally invested like that warps one's vision, I’ve come to learn. It causes me, and others to behave in strange ways.

At the same time, I think Rand has a real shot. But he’s really gone and pissed off a lot of people. And maybe he’s just playing out his character flaws writ large, living out his freshman year of college again, with the Aqua Buddah. Who knows.

But just like I had an eye on the Seattle Seahawks at the beginning of last year, I’ve got one eye on Rand. I’m watching the score. I'm looking at the competitors. I see the old hippos over there shuffling in discomfort. Christie is wounded, so they’ve roused Jeb Bush from his slumber.

This is the ambush that Paul just pulled on Cheney. All by himself, right there in the arena alone, through political skill. Fake it till you make it. He’s the magician on stage now. He needs to swing for the big market now - the mass market.

Not us.

The role of the politician is to play on the emotions. How else have any of these pols won? Reagan? Emotion. Born in the USA! Clinton? Emotion. That is their hook - don’t you guys see that? If Rand is going to be a world class politician, that is what he’s got to do. Get it?

You guys can do whatever you want, but I don’t fall under the aphrodisiac of emotional manipulation by a politician! What I’m saying to Daily Paulers is that I want to watch it. I don't want to fall prey to it. I'm defending against the emotional hijack. He was here for the Ron Paul revolution! He knows what buttons to push.

Let's go back to Boston, 2008, and see what we hear. Is that same guy still there?


That is an answer that has not emerged for me. That is an answer that will emerge for me in time. I applaud him for the Cheney thing; I'm watching the reaction, carefully.

Anyway, don't fault a cat for being a cat.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

I concur - Michael Corleone comes to mind for me too....

In fact, I just replied to you on the Seahawks thread about it! Synchronicity. But this is the scene that comes to my mind most:

"What are you gonna do, nice college boy? Didn't want to get mixed up in the family business.. "

For what it's worth, I perceive in Rand a son who all his life watched his virtuous, noble father get badly mistreated and maligned. I see him as having decided that he is going to forge ahead and further the "family" objective by any means necessary - not the way Ron always pursued it as "Mr. Nice Guy". Is it hubris? Has he been corrupted? Or will he be corrupted? I don't know.... But he seems very, very smart. Absolutely "cool as a cucumber". Ron has always been motivated by his ideals, which are pure and objective. But Rand has a personal back story that Ron did not have... For him, it's personal (just like Michael Corleone, though he pretends otherwise.) It is very interesting, We shall see.

Yup. That sums it up perfectly.

The good people here would do well to "listen" to your comment and act accordingly. There is a time for us to back off and let the game play out, if we want to win this game.

I know from my experiences working with the grassroots Ron Paul campaign in NJ (the only campaign in NJ our side had), you can get the people on the left to see things more objectively than you can the neocons. Let Rand work the neocons. We should open communications with our liberal family members and friends now (and strangers, too... after Rand is formally in it).

Oh, one more thing. I noticed The Godfather clip you posted doesn't have subtitles. Just in case anyone forgot what was being said there, it roughly boils down to, "Your father thinks the old school way and there is no reasoning with him." Michael responds with, "I know that." The scene ends with a BANG!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Thank you for this.

Thank you for this. Mike...can I call you Mike? You don't have to justify your position. You are a fair person. While I value your opinion, in the end it doesn't make a difference. And I mean that in the most respectful and sincere way. What I'm trying to say is just live and do your thang...everyone.

That's Liberty my friends!

Michael Nystrom's picture

No worries

Everyone should do what they want to do. I hold nothing against no one who does what they want.

Anyway, you did ask elsewhere, so I wanted to make my best effort at responding.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Nothing but LOVE for you

Nothing but LOVE for you Michael.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yes, likewise

Best wishes, and best of luck.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

I'm not going

I'm not going anywhere...unless you zap me into non existence! Lol! I'm joking! I'm just trying to organize for future collaboration. It is what you want...right?

The DP has unique content that cannot be found on any other forum. And need I say some very unique users too. ; )

It's Working

"The revolution is working, we have infiltrated the Republican Party, and we will convert the Republican Party into defenders of liberty." Ron Paul

Live in Liberty
Tom Rankin

would you

provide a link for that quote? i'm sure he is pleased as punch with lee, massie, amash rand and so on, but i've never heard him be so specific with "infiltrate" and "convert into defenders" i would sure like to read (and bookmark) the article you took that from. thanks in advance.


After 8 years watching the talking heads try and rip Ron Paul's head off, I'm done dealing with elections.

I wish rand the best and will vote in the primary for him, but I'm done donating and wasting months so he can pull out at the last second like RP did.

If Rand starts funding the local grassroots delegate networks, then I may come back. If he goes the Ron Paul way, buying blimps and stuff, count me out.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

ha ha

did he buy the blimp? i always figured it was donated. personally i loved the blimp. they just needed about 1000 more.

I am "ALL IN" when it comes to supporting Rand

The RINO establishment neo-con clan is bleeding dry and now counting on leftist liberal groups and organizations to fund their latest try to destroy the original REAL TEA party movement. The LiberTEA libertarian minded faction of the republican party, and the true constitution minded people we managed to get elected. And we will not stand for them doing to Rand what the did to Ron. Our numbers have grown due mainly to their abuse of the good people that took a stand for what they claimed to represent. But in the end they have proven to be the liars that they always have been...and we gained a lot of good patriots to our movement. And now we are seeing stories from Red State like this.


"win" what?

"win" what?

Well sir.

I believe he is talking about the republican primary followed by the presidency of these United States of America.

Death to all pandas

You're following the wrong

You're following the wrong thread. I was replying to the original poster "two years and we win" by Matthew and his referring to war with Russia.

Dose no one remember ?

2008 ~ 2012

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!


Ron Paul was plastered in the media in a positive light from December 2008-June 2011. They loved him, they didn't really love him, they loved us, they loved the ratings. As soon as the Iowa straw poll cam around and Ron was nearly tied for first, the media began telling everyone there was a "Top tier" of Bachmann, Romney, and Rick Perry. After that it was pure yellow journalism smear campaigns against Paul.

"We're in the business of kicking candidates out of the race."

This'll happen again. Tom Woods posted on facebook today that the National Review is already telling readers to "hold their nose" just this one time so that Jeb Bush will beat Clinton.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

This isn't 08 or 12

When did Ron lead in the national polls?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Care to put your silver where your mouth is ?

10 oz says Rand will suffer the same fate as his father.

This is 2008 this is 2012.
History Repeats !!!

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

No takers just downvotes ... nuff said

vote in the corrupt system and then be shocked you didn't accomplish anything ( 2008 , 2012 , 2016 )

what is that Einstein quote about insanity ?

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

Oh no, all that time wasted!!

That whole 15 minutes it took to drive to the voting booth, cast a ballot for Ron Paul in the primaries, and the 20 minutes I wasted to vote for Garry Johnson in the general has really come back to haunt me now!

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

It takes a lot more time to be a delegate

Days off work. Fighting, going to GOP meetings. If all you do is vote in the primary, your vote is nothing more than a suggestion that the delegates have the legal authority to ignore.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

I responded to criticism of VOTING..

...not about being a delegate.

Just so happens I did do a LOT more than just vote, too. But for those who don't care that much, simply showing up to vote is NOT 'insanity', it's easy, and can only help if you're casting your vote for a pro-liberty candidate.

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Lol, the illusion of choice

Lol, the illusion of choice and the allure of actually mattering in the future of the country and the world.

You do realize this "war" is

You do realize this "war" is a concoction of the left to sabotage Rand by making him a "dove" and an "isolationist" like his wacko father, right?

They know if they paint Rand as a dove it'll turn off the right and he'll lose the nomination to someone the Dems can easily beat.

I'm NOT looking forward to watching Rand come out more hawkish to try and silence the criticism. And you know he will.

don't the polls

show the american people are mostly against more war and empire? so what's needed is a candidate who is heavily pro peace. and who has the stones to back it up. the last thing needed is wishy washy politicians trying to play politics.

Polls show

That liars use polls to promote their mostly wrong and immoral point of view.

LIAR POLLS is all you will get from msm.


i'm always amused

that if polls favor a certain groups position, well then they're just fine, but if they come out against, then suddenly polls are fixed. one can only assume that some are legit and others are not. the american people let the admin know they wanted no part of a syrian war and turned that around. some polls are starting to favor snowden.

agree with you about msm = professional liars.