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I'm getting SO Fing Pumped about Rand and the WAR we're all about to get into!

I'm in Richmond Virginia now, Instead of Hawaii so if anyone knows some good people I can link up with here please post or pm me! Two years til we win!

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Michael, I mean this in the

Michael, I mean this in the most respectful way. But I'm curious what you plan to do during the election season and the biggest news of the season is Rand Paul running for POTUS? Think of all the debates, interviews, articles, sign waving, money bombs, caucuses, and conventions. This is big. How will you censor all this? After all...a lot of us here on the DP are Rand supporters. How will you handle all of pesky Rand supporters? Are you going to play Whack a Mole?

Ps. This is not me telling you in any way how to run your site. I'm just asking.

i'm curious as to why

a stand with rand website hasn't been created by some of his tech smart supporters? seems to me that would solve the vast majority of the problems.

riding in on your dad's coattails is one thing, but can't one of you develop a brand new pro rand forum? michael could supply your site's link and everybody would be happy (except for those who only want to argue or try and convert).

I heard Ron Paul Forums was

I heard Ron Paul Forums was pro Rand. Im good with hanging out over there but I feel more at home with the DP. I'm not complaining, I'm just curious what the plan is for being on Rand patrol? Will we be zapped into non existence? Is there going to be some sort of guideline as to what type of Rand material can and cannot be posted? Where is the "red line". There are a lot of Rand supporters who frequent the DP.

Michael, your response seems

Michael, your response seems a little harsh. Are you not much of a fan of Rand? Dislike him? I'm not just curious but also respect your opinion on these things.

Or, is it that you have no interest in running a hugely popular site again during a presidential election cycle?

By the way, I'm not really interested in the DP becoming a rally point for Rand, either. At least not yet. Not sure if my feelings on that will change.


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The only WAR I'm getting into

is the one with Rand Paul supporters who try to take over this site and turn it into the Daily Rand.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

I to am curious by your posts

I to am curious by your posts Michael. There are many many Rand supporters here that will undoubtedly be making many threads once election time rolls around because lets face it, Rand will be the talk of the town for Liberty minded people. Most of us are Rand supporters and are ALREADY on this site so there is nothing to take over as we are already here. Not giving these people a voice on the forum and claiming you will be at WAR with Rand Paul supporters sounds like you plan to alienate and isolate many of the members here and quash their free speech . That is a scary thought coming from somebody who has in the past been a advocate of Liberty. Its your site, no doubt about it and i understand that some things need to be moderated but stating you will be at WAR with Rand supporters is extreme and takes moderation to a whole new level whether its your site or not. Why would you want to dictate to people what they can or cant write about ? Seems very counter productive and extreme to me.

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams


there is an occasional bit (when truly newsworthy) about rand however it's loaded with articles by his dad and other libertarian thinkers. also they are considering going interactive.

"LewRockwell.com (LRC) is a libertarian website[2] which states that its purpose is "to help carry on the anti-war, anti-state, pro-market work of Murray N. Rothbard." It was begun in 1999 by anarcho-capitalists Lew Rockwell and Burt Blumert[3] as an affiliate of the nonprofit Center for Libertarian Studies. The site presents articles and blog entries by Lew Rockwell and other contributors[4] as well as a weekly podcast called the Lew Rockwell Show.[5] LRC's traffic rank was in the top 10,000 websites worldwide in May 2013"

I'm wondering if we should

I'm wondering if we should take a hint. I heard Ron Paul Forums is pro Rand.

see post

above, although it's strange that rand has never written for LRC or his dad's institute, or mises. rand is not ignored; if something good or bad about him is deemed important it'll be noted at LRC but there's not this overload of rand praise, this idea that he can never do wrong because he's playing chess. the thinking is deeper over there. i'd like to see the DP morphing into something like that; a great libertarian site that continues to spread the ron paul libertarian message of peace, sound money, and personal freedom. a site that fights and exposes tyranny in both parties. sometimes there's so much rah rah rand stuff here and circular arguments about him (it gets in the way).

It's good! And that is why

It's good! And that is why wrote the post about The DP as a Community of Individualists. I get it. And you are at Liberty to be you without me trying to mold your notions. But like I said, I and many others plan to campaign on behalf of Rand and it cannot be done here. Don't you agree?


it makes much more sense to me, to campaign, share ideas, arrange meetups etc etc at sites that have taken the stand with rand oath.

i know a lot of old time libertarians who don't give a hoot who gets the nomination or who wins. they feel the freedom movement's long term goal should be to spread the message. it could happen quickly with some unforeseen event, but is far more likely to be a long, long term goal and one can even see it happening already in increments (libertarianism on the map, syria, snowden).

I agree with spreading the

I agree with spreading the message but some of us will do it in different ways and ways YOU may not care for but that does not make anyone of us more intelligent or better than anyone else. Sometime you have an attitude that your way of spreading Liberty is the only way and the rest of us are doing it wrong.

no need

for the all caps YOU. that already sets a negative tone.

i go with what ron paul said when asked (mostly by youngsters) what they should do for liberty. he always says the same things: do what you're good at, do what appeals to you. everybody is different.

"attitude" can be tricky on forums, but when something is in all caps it usually means you're screaming. nobody wants to be screamed at, except maybe at alex jones' site ;-)

There are definitely people there

that don't care much for Rand, but they don't post in Rand's forum much because the rules are different for posting in his forum than outside his forum. You can disagree with stuff Rand does of course but you can't trash him in his forum basically. It's not perfect or anything and there are still fights that break out from time to time but the whole purpose of the forum is to provide a pro-Rand environment for pro-Rand supporters to post. As the campaign approaches the rules will be enforced even more strictly I imagine and more will be done to make it into its own separate Rand Paul Forums.

Isn't he Rand "Paul"?

It's the daily Paul isn't it? Is Rand not a Paul?

Death to all pandas

LOL that is the come back?

You know how many people have the last name paul?

A son is not his dad just due to his last name nor does it mean he will be the same man as his dad. As it looks, that opinion holds VERY TRUE when it comes to Rand.

I have written it before but will repost a bit of it

If RAND was around instead of his dad we would NOT have the daily paul OR the rand paul forums or the money bombs or anything that was happening during the rEVOLution. We would still be VERY ASLEEP. There are many reasons why the above holds water as well as many other reasons to add to the list.

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Or it could be Peace AU Liberty...

...all of which Rand advocates.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Yes indeed

He does

not exactly the point of what I responded to lol.

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Also, just out of curiosity.

Do you know of another community/web-site like the DailyPaul for us pro liberty Rand supporters? If there is a better place for me to talk Rand I'd like to know, thanks!

Death to all pandas

Here is a place

you can go that is all about Rand:


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Thank you

There you go Cory, and Matthew.

There's your place: All Rand Paul, all the time.

Take your "fing WAR" there. I'm sure you'll find fellowship and likeminded people there.

Have at it. Have fun.

And I agree with the poster above - this is the dumbest Fing headline on the DP today.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

And if you don't mind me plugging it

a little further Michael the owner of the website (Bryan) plans on making it a big hub for Rand Paul 2016 grassroots activity. Right now it is just a subforum under the banner of Ron Paul Forums, but more is in the works to kind of make it into its own separate Rand Paul Forums to support the 2016 presidential campaign if he runs. So if the Rand 2016 die-hards are looking for a place to frolic that is it.

Cool! Thanks for the info. I

Cool! Thanks for the info. I never go to that site much cause of the DP but I just may check it out more often now.

Glad to hear it

I am not a rand supporter but honestly the reason most will post their warez here is because of the traffic. The same stuff happened when Ron pulled out of the race and there was a ton of people here for Gary Johnson. It ended up so irritated that I left for a long time. This place rocks but during elections MAN can it get into a flood of candidate pushers.

There is a reason why the gary johnson forum and the huckabee forums never took off and there is a reason why this one did.

I loved the ron paul forums for a long time, it ended up with less content than ranting so I moved myself over here.

One thing I will say though is, if he ends up with a base it will end up finding a place but the way he is more centralized than his dad is will odds are mean HE or his team will be in charge of the forum and what is posted there. I get the reasoning but Ron "let" us do whatever we wanted and with that we all went out and did a million different projects and honestly it was the best time of my life ( politically speaking that is ).

Maybe the owner can get an ad here and get traffic to his forum that way?

http://shelfsufficient.com - My site on getting my little family prepped for whatever might come our way.

http://growing-elite-marijuana.com - My site on growing marijuana

"if he ends up with a base" -- he already has a base

most of Ron's base + a bunch of new people

A majority here at the DP are part of that base, judging by the upvote/downvote tallies on Rand-related threads.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

They are showing us the

They are showing us the door...do you understand that?

Yes, but I choose not to walk through it.

If they want to get rid of me, they'll have to ban me.

I hope my fellow Rand supporters feel the same way.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I'm not advocating leaving

I'm not advocating leaving the DP but perhaps we can do all the Rand stuff over at the Ron Paul Forums. I think it will be hopp'n come election time! It'll be a party! And the DP will be quiet and lonely wishing they could party like us...likes it's 1999.

I hear ya.

And I'm all for Randing-it-up on RPF.

I recently created an account there (partially in the expectation that I'd be banned from the DP in the near future). I'm "revolution 3.0"

All I'm saying is this: I'm not going to self-censor here at the DP on the subject of all things Rand. I think it's bat-guano crazy that the Daily Paul should be hostile to Ron Paul's son and obvious (and justified) political heir. I just won't have it. So, I'll do my thing till I get banned. Call it a protest.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."


...it's "r3volution 3.0"

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."