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What if I stole your junk food and booze?

The most common argument I hear in favor of having a State boils down to "it's for your own good."

Suppose I stole your junk food and booze "for your own good." Would I be any less of a thief?

Further, do you have the right to steal from another individual?

Do you and one other person have the right to join forces and steal from another individual?

Do you and two other people have the right to join forces and steal from another individual?

Three?

Four?

How many people does it take to team up and steal from an individual before it is no longer considered theft?

If you endorse funding a State through taxation, there must be a threshold. Otherwise, you are simply an advocate of theft.

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Two wrongs don't make a right...

...but 300 million do.

= the atrocious principle of majority rule.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

you can come clean out my liquor cabinet any day

Just leave the Macallan and the Petron.

I am out of bourbon, so don't y'all downvote me for not mentioning Elmer T.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

I'm more of a Hornitos fan anyway...

Although, bourbon is my primary drink so I'm a bit disappointed.

I actually prefer lowland tequila

So Herradura is my favorite, but I don't have any right now. More earthy and longer lasting flavor.

What's your favorite Bourbon?

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Hornitos?

O, right, the chips I munch on while I'm drinking bourbon.

Got it.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

deacon's picture

I don't take too kindly

to be stolen from,But,if you ask,I might give them to you.
D

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

The most common argument I hear is

"it's the system we have" or some kind of statement that indicates advocating for a system we don't have is "fantasy". Don't you feel surrounded by Einsteins that your acquaintances at least throw their haymakers in the general direction of your question?

Defend Liberty!

It kills me how they admit and then renounce sound logic

to prop up the flawed ideas of their state indoctrination.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I'd be happy

I don't need them any more. Take 'em!

Thanks!

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

What does the inventory list look like?

If it's worth the airfare/drive...

:-P

Michael Nystrom's picture

Ha ha - I'll send 'em to you

Seriously, did I miss your point on purpose? Yes.

Why? To demonstrate that you can choose where you place your focus. It is pretty obvious that you're fixated on this whole taxation is theft thing.

From my perspective, what you're doing looks like a guy banging his head against a cement wall. Bang on it long enough and the wall is going to win. And that would be a terrible waste of a good head like yours.

I don't know if you stopped paying your taxes or not. I know I asked, but never did see a response.

From the sound of the articles you're posting, either you're the biggest hypocrite in the world, or you're done with paying taxes.

Of course we're all free to do what we're doing. But not paying taxes is a sure way to turn your government persecution fantasy into a cold hard reality - one complete with bars, cement walls and a stainless steel toilet. And then you'll really know what it means not to be free.

Maybe that's what you're angling for, I don't know. There are a couple of things I do know, however.

One is that even Adam Kokesh found the religion of contrition when staring into the maw of a 7 year sentence in a federal pen.

Two is that in spite of all the bellyaching and moaning that Ron Paul did about the IRS, I'm certain that he was very conscientious about dotting his i's and crossing his t's when he filled out and submitted his tax forms every year.

Again, just friendly words of advice for you to do with what you will.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

I make poverty level income, live in the hood, and...

drive a vehicle that has over 200K miles on it.

If the bastards want to throw me in prison for a few hundred bucks, so be it.

Geithner owed 10's of thousands of FRNs.

Excuse me while I go heat up some Ramen.

no need to eat badly

http://www.seriouseats.com/2011/03/ramen-hacks-30-easy-ways-...

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

scawarren's picture

There's a "hood" in

There's a "hood" in Fayetteville :) ?
On a more serious note though, I've not filed taxes since 2006 and at that time they tried to say I owed them $1200. I literally just ignored them and haven't heard anything for three or four years now. Maybe they lost me... oh, on those Ramens put a egg in them and they're much more filling and tasteful.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain

It's certainly not akin to a hood in a major city

and not quite as dilapidated as the barrio I used to hang out in when I was living in Texas, but for here, it's the hood. I enjoy the people though. I get along with everyone I know on my street.

As well, we have a sizable homeless population here in Fayetteville. I enjoy talking to those fellows too. Some of 'em are pretty insightful and definitely have a view on life that most others never discover or inquire about. I'm lucky enough to ride the bus with those folks from time to time - which gives me the chance for conversation. Some of those guys are pretty intelligent and seem rather content.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Homeless people are some of the most interesting people around

They've seen things and have a perspective on things that most of us don't, that is for sure.

Anyway, we're all just passing through.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
TwelveOhOne's picture

I learned a perspective here that will stick with me forever

That was the idea that there is only one soul; when a body dies, it comes back as another body (which could be distant, in both time and space, to the previous body).

Thus, we are all one; any help we give another benefits ourself; any harm we do to another hurts us.

We are all just passing through. When I see people struggling, I think "There but for the grace of God go I" and I've been to some very highs, and some very lows, already. I try to do good, and mostly succeed; I'm sure I could spend more of my time helping others.

I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.
http://fija.org - Fully Informed Jury Association
http://jsjinc.net - Jin Shin Jyutsu (energy healing)

May as well make the most of it...

It's funny how I've heard the names Thoreau and Spooner but don't recall hearing about any of the regular folks of their time who just went along to get along.

I'm glad the Americans living during the Revolution were willing to DIE for their freedom.

You may think of me as being foolish, but standing up in the face of oppression is the only way to defeat it - and/or make a lasting impression such that the fight is carried on by future generations.

Where would the Christians be if Jesus laid down on the job out of fear of Roman authorities?

It's easy to go with the flow. I'm not about easy. I'm about standing up for what I believe in.

This empire is on its last leg.

scawarren's picture

We moved to Springdale when I

We moved to Springdale when I was twelve from northeast AR. I've spent a lot of time in Fayetteville and know it pretty well and love it. Never messed with the U of A though... graduated from NWACC and John Brown with worthless degrees :/ The last couple of years I've been in Texas the majority of the time. Currently in the panhandle.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain

Never lived in the panhandle...

Do you enjoy it?

NWA is still growing. Hopefully, AR will get medicinal the next general election (only about 1% off the last go-around).

scawarren's picture

I saw this title and thought,

I saw this title and thought, "I bet that's a post by dwalters" :)

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain

:)

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Here's a question,

why fund a state through taxation in the first place?

If it's not funded via theft, it's not a state

It's a firm.

The theft may be in the form of taxes, tariffs, imposts, inflation, etcetera. But if you have a choice to pay them then it's not a state.

This is also not to say every entity that steals is a state. The state is the entity that keeps stealing from you and you can't do anything about it.