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Question about homeschooling.

Hi all,

I am hoping some of you can point me in the direction to a good home schooling program for the state of Florida. Common Core is making my kids stupid, I even have trouble trying to help them with it. WTF is wrong with the teachers not standing up for our kids? My kids were straight A students last year, Now one of my kids is a C student and the other a C and D WTF?

I will not allow them to attend public school next year. Your help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

NeverQuit

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khanacademy.org

is free and goes over most of math and science. There are videos with q and a beneath. Explore it.. you just might find it useful for yourself as well.

-Matthew Good

Free and Paid Programs

The first, are free. These are all in one home school (allinonehomeschool.com), and old fashioned education (oldfashionededucation.com).

I would, however pay for the Robinson Curriculum (robinsoncurriculum.com) to receive all of the necessary literature for your child's education, and also buy Saxon math books (first through third editions ONLY, found used cheap on ebay, amazon, barnes and nobles)

First purchase after books and/or curriculum is a one year subscription to the HSLDA, which is a $120.00 retainer for lawyers that fight for home schoolers (great insurance if big brother want's to make an example of you), and they are also a great wealth of resources. One specific to Florida is www.hslda.org/laws/analysis/Florida.pdf

Other links you will find helpful are: homeschoolshare.com, currclick.com (search free for worksheets), and users.gobigwest.com/rosegate/index.html (all public domain books for Robinson Curriculum).

None of the above is Common Core aligned.

It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.

My sister

home schooled her kids a few years ago off of the public school website they were offering, what I found interesting is that they expected a home schooled kid to do ten times as much work.

I would say do what you feel comfortable with doing, there are at least five or six teaching styles so find something that works with you.

I don't have any advice,

But I do offer my encouragement.

The average homeschooled child would fall in the 85th percentile of public schooled children.

A 1955 World Book Encyclopedia and an algebra book from a garage sale would still probably put you lightyears ahead of the pack.

For you, the difference between good and excellent materials might mean the difference between the 96th and 97th percentile.

Have courage!

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

I want to implement a

I want to implement a combination between the Ron Paul curriculum (www.ronpaulcurriculum.com) and the Robinson Curriculum (www.robinsoncurriculum.com).

These Two Are One In The Same

Although I realize you really admire Ron Paul, his curriculum is based on the Robinson Curriculum, so you are basically purchasing two of the same things, with slight differences.

Another thing we home schoolers also have to look into , with any curriculum, is whether or not the curriculum we WANT to teach is sufficient for the states' requirements. That's right, even though gave birth to them and raise them, they still are not yours, and you have to make sure that the state for which you reside in is happy with the education you are giving your children. Look on the HSLDA's website for more information about state requirements.

I live in the STASI state of PA, which isn't near as bad a the MAO'st regime of New York, but is bad enough.

It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.

I homeschooled my daughter

I homeschooled my daughter this school year for third grade. It's the first time I have done it but I'm in TN. First, look into laws in your state regarding homeschooling. Facebook has a lot of homeschool groups and they have a wealth of information on what you'll need to know. You can look up homeschool Florida first and parents will guide you to any groups in your area. I was really concerned with my daughter the first year the changes were implemented in 2nd grade. She was really into learning and all of a sudden, her behavior was changing. She'd get "tests" with 4 or 5 questions. Get them all, make an A. Miss one, make an F or close to it. I just gave her some work on her first lesson in decimals yesterday. It had 60 questions. She missed two. That gives me a good indication that she understands the material. Whereas a student gets 4 questions in public school, how can a teacher know without a doubt that the student understands?? Then we had math problems that didn't make sense at all. It only took two weeks into the school year 2nd grade that I was contacting the teacher about it. I didn't know about Common Core yet. Her only answer for these bizarre math problems was, "It's a new program and I have to teach it to her." I had to stick with every single lesson and I'd literally try to teach my daughter the more traditional easy ways to do problems because what they are putting out there either makes no sense or is so ridiculously idiotic that it confuses the kids. And then we had other problems in the public school that I was highly concerned about so I pulled her from it. She was at a different public school her kindergarten year with a liberty-loving principal who had a big celebration for Constitution Day and didn't get even the slightest bit irate if the uniform code was not followed perfectly (such as kids enjoying wearing colorful socks to show individualism) but that school was closed down. It really depends on what kind of people are running the schools too to some degree.

We do a modified version of Charlotte Mason

curriculum with the living books and so forth. The kids especially love the living book history part. It really draws them into what life was like for the people in the books. They usually finish the books far ahead of schedule because they can't get enough of them.

Off the top of my head they take Math, English, Phonics/Reading, Spelling/Vocabulary, Penmanship (we actually still teach cursive writing in home school!), Science, Art/Music, American History, World History, and Bible Study. They also get Geography from their Co-Op class and we've even done a tiny bit of Spanish. Some of these we add in because CM doesn't explicitly cover them.

My wife picked out the science book for next year recently - the Exploring Creation series from Apologia - because we have three different ages being home schooled and this curriculum is supposed to be very good plus it can be easily scaled up or down to accommodate various ages.

They use the Horizons math curriculum if I remember right and my wife likes it much better than what she used last year which I think was Math Mammoth. Horizons is more advanced that what she used last year, so my 3rd grade son had to take a step back a bit to catch up, but he's since caught up. Even with the going back, he is still one full grade level above his public school counterparts in Math (and most other subjects as well).

Our family's journey from the Rocket City to the Redoubt: www.suburbiatosimplicity.com

While I'm glad to here that

While I'm glad to hear that you are extricating your children from such a creativity destroying environment such as school, I have no actual homeschooling information for you. However, I would like to suggest a book for you -as a teacher- and your children -as students- which I advise many people to pick up, which is How To Solve It By George Poyla -its on the DP Bookshelf. You may also want to check out Home Ed Magazine. I have no idea if this is any good, I found an ad for it in the back of Back Home Magazine, and thought I would pass it on.

Thanks for the Book!

We are home schoolers too, so any suggestions made by educators and the like are greatly appreciated. This book (How To Solve It) is on the public domain, so it is free to read by anyone (or print, bind, read, and put on the bookshelf).

It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.

we too

are taking our kids out of the public school system here in Temecula, CA. one of the reasons we moved here, was the schools are rated as the best in the county, but I feel they are totally failing our kids.

we found some charter schools that have home school programs and we are going to choose one of those. even if they end up having statist curriculum, we can present it however we like and can show our children how to think critically and show them the counter arguments against statist thought.

We live in Florida...

and have always homeschooled. Very glad to hear you are leaving the system :) My husband has been involved somewhat with the Florida Stop Common Core because we see the evil behind it, not to mention as homeschoolers we can't have the mind set that Common Core will not affect us because it will probably come our way.

All that said we take the relaxed/unschoolers approach. We don't have evaluations done and are signed up with Florida Unschoolers https://sites.google.com/site/floridaunschoolers/ to report our days of schooling. I think every county has different requirements so you need to research that. I know about Florida Virtual School but would never have my children take part of it because who is "monitoring" them and what are they "teaching" my children? It's not their place or business to do this.

Here are a few resources I know about:
Homeschool Buyers Co-op http://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/
They have a Free Homeschool Curriculum & Other Resources link here:
http://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/free-curriculum/

Freely Educate
http://freelyeducate.com/

Ron Paul Curriculum
http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/
They offer Free Courses, K-5 (see left side of the screen for info)

Khan Academy
https://www.khanacademy.org/

You can find many free resources and really don't need to buy anything. Also,you might want to receive emails from HSLDA http://hslda.org/
They produced the recent documentary below.

Please pass on this short documentary about Common Core called "Building the Machine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc

ABOUT THE FILM

"Building the Machine" introduces the public to the Common Core States Standards Initiative (CCSSI) and its effects on our children's education. The documentary compiles interviews from leading educational experts, including members of the Common Core Validation Committee. Parents, officials, and the American public should be involved in this national decision regardless of their political persuasion.

Happy Homeschooling!

Tricia

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." Matthew 12:25
http://www.needgod.com/
http://www.geniusthemovie.com/

Thank you very much. I am

Thank you very much. I am going to look at this now. We too moved here for the school system, we are rated one of the top in the state as well, It was a great school until common core was implemented.

You're welcome...

Neverquit. I'm glad to pass on the info and be of help :)

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." Matthew 12:25
http://www.needgod.com/
http://www.geniusthemovie.com/

Facebook link for documentary

I meant to include this.

Building the Machine
https://www.facebook.com/BuildingtheMachine

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." Matthew 12:25
http://www.needgod.com/
http://www.geniusthemovie.com/

Not in...

...Florida, but I noticed there will be a Florida Parent Educators Association (FPEA) convention in Kissimmee, May 22 - 25. Bet they would have all kinds of advice and tons of curriculum booths, workshops, etc.

http://fpea.com/events/4984/05-22-2014/fpea-2014-convention

When I was a homeschooling kid, was kind of fun to go to the conventions at Disneyland Hotel. :)

And there's the Ron Paul Curriculum to check out maybe?

http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/

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Congratulations!

Congrats! I think you are doing a wonderful thing for your family.

We just started in January. It's going splendidly with our 8, 6 and 3 year old.

Random advice:

- Make sure your spouse is on board 100%

- Do lots of research on the different approaches e.g., Waldorf, traditional, unschooling

- Read some books by Gatto, Grace Lewllyn, John Holt. Even the good Doctor has a decentish book on homeschooling

- Learn FL homeschooling laws and see whether you need to coordinate through a school or accountability organization

- Review the curriculum and supporting materials out there. For example, we started just looking at the Calvert one, which is so detailed and robust that we instantly saw that the material was there. As we learned more, we realized we didn't want to replicate school at home and are largely unschooling (self-directed learning), but seeing the wealth of material built confidence.

Currently consuming: Harry Browne, Free Domain Radio; JT Gatto and Holt; Wii U

Ron Paul Curriculum

http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/

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